LINY4Runner
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not entirely...I'm planning on doing a motor swap soon or immediately so it doesn't have to be running...
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not entirely...I'm planning on doing a motor swap soon or immediately so it doesn't have to be running...
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JohnsD90
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If i dont get it for you, there are a couple different 1.9 VW TDI engines, that you could get depending on how much wiring you wanna do.
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LINY4Runner
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Well it was only that week I was a little short...plus, as I mentioned I'll be paying my truck off completely within the next month or two, so there's an extra $350 each month.
My 3rd Gen is finished. The next step would be solid axle but I refuse to put 30 year old technology into a fairly new truck; losing ABS and my HUGE Tundra brakes for brakes from 1982, among other things...
Not my style.
Plus for the price of SASing my 3rd Gen, I can buy an FJ40, lift it and probably fit it with tires. And it doesn't need a SAS.
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up-n-over
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I like the idea of putting a diesel into the Toyotas that you mentioned, but a 1.9TDI is going to be a dog in either rig. A late model engine puts out 128HP @ 4000RPM, and 284lb-ft @1750RPM. These numbers can be improved a bit with tuners but those are fairly heavy rigs with big tires and you will need to match tire size, axle gear ratio, and transmission gearing to match the power band of the engine.
The TDI is also a computer controlled engine which introduces it's own set of problems. Have you considered using any other diesel engines?
I am not criticizing the proposed set-up. Just trying to understand the logic.
The TDI is also a computer controlled engine which introduces it's own set of problems. Have you considered using any other diesel engines?
I am not criticizing the proposed set-up. Just trying to understand the logic.
LINY4Runner
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The engine that's in the newer FJ40s only puts out 135HP@3600 and 210ft.lbs@1800.
The FJ40 weighs in at about 3600lbs while the Jetta is around 4300.
So more power and less weight. Reason one.
Reason two: there's tons and tons of comapnies out there modifying these TDI engines for big power and torque, and they make these Jettas zippy little ****ers. So making more power, if desired, would be cheaper and easier than sayyy...a 4BT.
The fact that it's electronically controlled is also a plus, at least to me. I'm 25 years old. I've been brought up in this electronic world. I've got more scan tools than I have wrenches and I'm perfectly fine with that. Reason three.
By the way, your trucks looks freakin BEAST! Do you have a build thread on it?
4Runner ABS sucks, leafs work and they're cheap! Or you could link it and have 2010+ technology and whatever brakes you want. Never mind, I just saw you've got an 01.
LINY4Runner
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I don't understand everyone's gripes about 4Runner ABS...mine works flawlessly and has saved my ass many many times.
It'll cost more to SAS my 3rd gen then it would to buy an FJ40 lifted on 35's.
harper7
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LINY, if your in the market,...................check this bad boy out............talk about clean Toyota : Land Cruiser - eBay (item 110633434301 end time Jan-15-11 18:00:00 PST) =dream 
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ps ...........look at the 10th picture down and check out the license plate...............not a F*ckin JeeP....lol
Now that's a Toyota!
imp: ps ...........look at the 10th picture down and check out the license plate...............not a F*ckin JeeP....lol
Now that's a Toyota!
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LINY4Runner
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LINY, if your in the market,...................check this bad boy out............talk about clean Toyota : Land Cruiser - eBay (item 110633434301 end time Jan-15-11 18:00:00 PST) =dream
ps ...........look at the 10th picture down and check out the license plate...............not a F*ckin JeeP....lol
Now that's a Toyota!
I would LOVE that 40...looks to be wayyyyy out of my price range though
topdown4runner
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O.K.
Here's a chopped 2nd gen. for 'ya.
It's been on C's list for quite a while now.
Asking $1,200.
Toyota 4 runner truck
Here's a chopped 2nd gen. for 'ya.
It's been on C's list for quite a while now.
Asking $1,200.
Toyota 4 runner truck
Casper421
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LINY, if your in the market,...................check this bad boy out............talk about clean Toyota : Land Cruiser - eBay (item 110633434301 end time Jan-15-11 18:00:00 PST) =dream
ps ...........look at the 10th picture down and check out the license plate...............not a F*ckin JeeP....lol
Now that's a Toyota!
WOW!! :jaw drop: Yes please!! That is one clean 350!
brian2sun
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I had a 2nd gen before my current 3rd gen, and I wouldn't buy another 2nd gen. You can make it into a decent crawler/wheeler, but if I were you, I'd just do the same stuff to your 3rd gen instead. Better motor and way more powerful, about the same size, better interior, stronger stock body (if you aren't going to cage it). A 22RE in a 2nd gen 4runner is so painfully slow you'll want to shoot yourself everytime you go up a hill. Just my $.02. I think the FJ40 would be cool too.
Get yourself an '85 4Runner.
Already solid axle.
Already EFI
Seats 5
Remove the fiberglass top and you have open air wheeling.Get one that is an SR5 & you also get a sunroof, even open-er air.
Here is one for $2,500 already lifted, all you need is lockers, gears & a plane ticket :lookout:
1985 Toyota 4 Runner/4Runner/Pickup/Truck/Mud Truck 4x4 Lifted
I am a jeep wrangler guy for off-road but this would be my choice if I was doing another off-road vehicle. Of the two options you mention I would go with the FJ. Straight axles are the only way to go for harder technical trails. You can do solid axle if you have the ability and/or resources, but I would rather have a vehicle with it from the start.
I highlighted is what set the 4Runner apart from other off road vehicles, for me anyway.
LINY4Runner
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...not surprised that's been on craigslist forever...it's hideous hahaha
leaning towards the FJ40 anyways...
Casper421
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After checking out some FJ40's online, i change my vote from the 2nd gen to the FJ. The first thing should be an engine/trans swap: gas 4.3(v-6) to 6.2L(v-8) or a 4BTA Cummins-5.9L TD Cummins. Go for a diesel, im not sure what transmission or transfer case, thats where other people come in.... :biggrin2:
LINY4Runner
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I'm thinking about a VW 1.9 TDI actually...
JohnsD90
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Good idea, cause with about $500 in parts you can go from 90hp to 140hp and 155 torque to 260 ft/lbs, and probably 35mpg, in an SUV! With the $900 turbo you can go to 170 hp and 300+ft/lbs of torque! ISH
Best part is neither of those modifications affect the life of the motor!
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