Building, Driving and Adventuring the MTN4RNR

Good lord... I spent the last 2 hours going through the entirety of this thread and I must say, well done, sir. Yes I have a life, but tonight I wanted to sit back and relax while dreaming up the storms of ideas that I have for my 4R. My biggest issue (when surfing on this forum) is that I live in the middle of Wisconsin where there are no mountains and no trails.... (no trails that I know of at least.)

Thank you for sharing your progress and a bit of your life on this forum! This kind of stuff definitely makes this forum feel like a big ole' family.

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ps. The GAIA gps... I have a tablet with no cell service on it.. Do I need a tablet with cell service? I may have missed that small detail. Thanks!
 
Good lord... I spent the last 2 hours going through the entirety of this thread and I must say, well done, sir. Yes I have a life, but tonight I wanted to sit back and relax while dreaming up the storms of ideas that I have for my 4R. My biggest issue (when surfing on this forum) is that I live in the middle of Wisconsin where there are no mountains and no trails.... (no trails that I know of at least.)

Thank you for sharing your progress and a bit of your life on this forum! This kind of stuff definitely makes this forum feel like a big ole' family.

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ps. The GAIA gps... I have a tablet with no cell service on it.. Do I need a tablet with cell service? I may have missed that small detail. Thanks!

Ha! Glad that you enjoyed the thread. You may not have many mountains where you are right now, but that's what road trips are for! There are some gorgeous places in the North East that I would love to get to some day. I would start by looking at places like Expedition Portal in the regional section to maybe meet up with like minded people to show you where to get your trail fix!

You definitely can still use Gaia GPS on a non-cell tablet. You will need a GPS transponder however, such as this one. You will also need to pre-download any maps/layers that you might need on your trip.
 
Ha! Glad that you enjoyed the thread. You may not have many mountains where you are right now, but that's what road trips are for! There are some gorgeous places in the North East that I would love to get to some day. I would start by looking at places like Expedition Portal in the regional section to maybe meet up with like minded people to show you where to get your trail fix!

You definitely can still use Gaia GPS on a non-cell tablet. You will need a GPS transponder however, such as this one. You will also need to pre-download any maps/layers that you might need on your trip.

Road trips are food for my soul! I was out in Colorado a month ago (not with my newly purchased 4Runner, sadly) and adored the landscape immensely! Thank you for the referral to Expedition Portal. I was following some guys on IG and saw the whole Expo East shenanigans and will definitely hit that up next year.

Thank you for that info! That makes me feel better knowing that all I need is a $100.00 box! Sweet!
 
Road trips are food for my soul! I was out in Colorado a month ago (not with my newly purchased 4Runner, sadly) and adored the landscape immensely! Thank you for the referral to Expedition Portal. I was following some guys on IG and saw the whole Expo East shenanigans and will definitely hit that up next year.

Thank you for that info! That makes me feel better knowing that all I need is a $100.00 box! Sweet!

Same here, man! They're one of the best ways to see what mother nature has to offer! Good luck, can't wait to see where your travels take you!
 
Fresh rubber for the holidays. With all of the success I had with the S/T Maxx's, I am really looking forward to trying these Cooper Discoverer AT3 XLTs out and putting them through the paces.

Happy Holidays to you all, 2019 is going to be full of adventure and fun!

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Also, thanks to those who were involved with upgrading our servers and security before the holidays. Your work is greatly appreciated, and I am happy to see all of the information still here!
 
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Longtime Instagram follower. Glad I came across this to look through.

I'm a fellow SC MTB owner and I have loved my 1up rack as well. I've had it for a while. They didn't even offer black when I ordered mine. Wish they did, but I love it no matter the color.

keep up the great content!
 
Fresh rubber for the holidays. With all of the success I had with the S/T Maxx's, I am really looking forward to trying these Cooper Discoverer AT3 XLTs out and putting them through the paces.

Happy Holidays to you all, 2019 is going to be full of adventure and fun!

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Also, thanks to those who were involved with upgrading our servers and security before the holidays. Your work is greatly appreciated, and I am happy to see all of the information still here!


Nice choice! I’m 30k into my AT3’s. Wish they had the XLT flavor when I bought, and will likely go with them in another 20-30k. The originals have easily handled everything I’ve thrown at them and are still in great shape and quiet on road...no loss in performance in any conditions.
 
Longtime Instagram follower. Glad I came across this to look through.

I'm a fellow SC MTB owner and I have loved my 1up rack as well. I've had it for a while. They didn't even offer black when I ordered mine. Wish they did, but I love it no matter the color.

keep up the great content!

Really glad that you have enjoyed the content here and on social media. The black is a great color, my dad has the silver and it looks just as good :thumb3:

Nice choice! I’m 30k into my AT3’s. Wish they had the XLT flavor when I bought, and will likely go with them in another 20-30k. The originals have easily handled everything I’ve thrown at them and are still in great shape and quiet on road...no loss in performance in any conditions.

So far driving to southern California they have been great. Very quiet and smooth, and they track great on the road. I have high hopes for them, can't wait to see where they take me. I will have a more in depth set of reviews starting in January!
 
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Summer is coming to an end, and I have added a few new posts to my website.

A Mammoth Weekend:
Getting back into the groove can be hard. But with good people, good beers and some good adventure, it gets easy to fall right back into it.



Mapping your adventure with Gaia GPS:
The first step in getting lost is knowing where you’re going. With Gaia GPS you can plan, track and share your adventures. Here’s some tips to help you get started.

Happy reading! You're almost to the weekend!​

Great pictures! I really like the tent!
 
Question: Have you made the upgrade to the RAM X-mount 2.0 yet?? I'm curious to know if you've gotten that far.

I'm about to purchase a phone mount from RAM, but am wondering what you may have come up with.
 
When I first bought the 4Runner, it didn’t take long before I realized that I would need to modify the stock cargo area to best fit my personal needs. I had a few basic requirements to consider:

Cargo Security:
My typical cargo usually consists of the Ruff Tough kennel for the pup and a Front Runner Wolfpack (used to be Action Packer). When I switch to camping/Overlanding mode, I will typically add my camping box (DeWalt Tough boxes), the cooler, and other miscellaneous small items. All of these things needed to be secured in case of a collision or other accident. The last thing that I want is for the dog kennel to smash around, or to see a fully packed Yeti cooler cruising through the windshield. A tie down system can also be more practical by keeping your gear secure when four wheeling as you start/stop/pitch/jolt. It was really clear that the stock 4 point system wasn’t going to cut it after a few 4wd trips, however for the better part of a year I have made it work.

A Fully Flat Cargo Area:
The 4Runner (without the OEM cargo tray) with the rear seats folded down does not allow the cargo area to be flush with the rear seats. It’s about a 2-3 inch drop, and that drop makes a huge difference when it comes to sleeping comfortably in the back. Like my issue with securing cargo, I was able to make it work using a yoga mat, and an extra blanket. It worked, but I slept terribly.

Additional Preparation Space:
When I camp and spend time outdoors, I tend to need a flat surface to perform various tasks. Cooking, organizing gear, working with maps, etc. In the past I have made due with cooking on my camping box, requiring me to pull everything out that I will need for the meal, and ultimately I forget something mid-cook. How hard is it to open the camping box while there is a full pot of water boiling on the stove? It’s very difficult, trust me. Sparing myself buying a table for camping, I thought having something that could be easily deployed when needed would be a great addition to this platform.

Room for growth:
When I design/start any project, I understand that even if it is well planned, and even better built, there is always the likely possibility that I will find some way to make it better. So I incorporated that reality into my build by using materials and a general layout that would allow me to incorporate drawers, a fridge slide or anything else later on down the road.

Note:
I won’t be going into full design details with this particular project at this time, mainly because I am contemplating doing a small production run of this platform once I give it a good shake down to test the integrity of my design. Once I can establish that there aren’t any weak points, I will consider moving forward if there is a suitable demand. In the meantime, I will be pricing the unit as it is currently designed because I understand that the first question many ask with this sort of product is “How much?” That’s what I am going to work out.

Product details:
-Baltic birch plywood construction
-Aluminum L-track tie down strips with movable tie downs
-Line-X platform coating
-Stainless steel hardware
-Minimal modification of the 4Runner to fit (plastic trim removal; no cutting)
-Flush to seat design
-Slide out preparation space

Product Description:
The platform is constructed using strong, Baltic birch plywood. It is made of a hardwood ply, and unlike cheaper substitutes, it doesn’t use a weaker filler between the layers of hardwood. It is hardwood through and through making it very rigid and durable. The plys are bonded together using marine grade adhesive, and the outside veneers are thicker allowing for a more durable surface. It’s not a cheap material to use, but the benefits well outweigh the cost.

The platform incorporates 4 aluminum L-track strips. Left, center, right, and against the rear seats. Each one with approximately one tie down option every 1-2 inches. This means that as cargo needs change, so do the tie down points. This variable approach allows for securing different cargo in different arrangements without compromise.

A Line-X finish on the platform was used to increase the base material’s overall strength, provide a waterproof finish to the top surface, and to increase the long term durability of the platform. As an added bonus, it ended up looking like something that should have come from the factory as it closely matches the plastic color.

The slide out is made of the same Baltic birch plywood, but with an added polyurethane surface protectant to seal it from water and other stains. The edges have been routed to provide a smoother grip when extended. The slide can come out approximately 18” with enough rigidity to hold a stove and food preparation supplies. It is branded with the Mountain 4Runner logo on the lower right corner.

The platform attaches to the 4Runner using existing threaded holes, and only requires the removal of 2 plastic trim pieces. No cutting is required for installation. It fits with approximately ½” per side to spare, and enough room to fold the rear seats up and down without interference.

Product photos:

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As I mentioned above, I will be testing the platform in the coming months and determining if I can produce a small number of units and what the associated cost would be. I will update the build page with information as it comes. Feel free to send any questions to me via the personal message feature on the forum.

More to come…

Hi,
Love the platform. Any updates on whether or not you will be producing any of these to sell? I'm looking at goose gear platform with a couple of drawers but id love a slide out work space for cooking and prep.

Also how much does your roof top tent weight? I'm trying to decide on hard top or soft. I like the idea of the awning on the soft to cover the ladders but they seem heavy. I love the eezi awn stealth but that thing weighs a ton.

I purchased some Blue Ridge bits to start for when my 4runner arrives - gear loft, tool roll and recovery bag. Will be grabbing more in the future.

Thanks in advance
 
Question: Have you made the upgrade to the RAM X-mount 2.0 yet?? I'm curious to know if you've gotten that far.

I'm about to purchase a phone mount from RAM, but am wondering what you may have come up with.

Not sure what you're referring to with Ram mount 2.0? New product from RAM?
 
RAM mount part number (RAM-B-273-M6U) attached to the trim piece with a flange bolt from the inside and thread locker to make sure it stays snug. I can tighten it from the outside without removing the trim because the flange bolt has notches on it. So far the vibration is acceptable. But time will tell off-road what it will be like. I already have a plan for RAM phone mount 2.0 that is much much sturdier that might happen at the beginning of the year.

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Hope this helps! Ask away if you have other questions.

I actually was referring to this post! You made it a while back and am wondering if you have found a better design/upgrade.

Thanks!
 
Hi,
Love the platform. Any updates on whether or not you will be producing any of these to sell? I'm looking at goose gear platform with a couple of drawers but id love a slide out work space for cooking and prep.

Also how much does your roof top tent weight? I'm trying to decide on hard top or soft. I like the idea of the awning on the soft to cover the ladders but they seem heavy. I love the eezi awn stealth but that thing weighs a ton.

I purchased some Blue Ridge bits to start for when my 4runner arrives - gear loft, tool roll and recovery bag. Will be grabbing more in the future.

Thanks in advance

As of now, I am not planning on producing these platforms personally. I am looking at producing a guide or template for the platform at some point. But I need to work through some details first.

As for the roof top tent it comes in at 145 pounds. To help, check out this article I wrote on hard versus soft shell tents. (Click this link)

BROG makes some great gear. I have no regrets with the stuff that I have.
 
I actually was referring to this post! You made it a while back and am wondering if you have found a better design/upgrade.
Thanks!

Hey! You know, I haven't really felt that I needed to change it to a 2.0 version yet. I do have some ideas, but I think those will wait until this one becomes problematic or something.
 
Cooper Discoverer AT3 XLT -- Initial Impressions

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I just finished up writing an article on the newly introduced Cooper Discoverer AT3 XLTs that I installed on the 4Runner last month. So far they have been a really great tire for the 4Runner in the 2,000 or so miles I have had them. Click the link below for the full article :thumb3:

Trail Impressions: Cooper Discoverer AT3 XLT

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