Burtman 96-02 4Runner spoiler COMPLETE! Finally!

Intro and vendor Props

Hello all,

New to this forum, but not new to the game. I've been lurking on this forum for a short while, but this is my first post. As an FYI, I am a member of a number of different forums (Impala SS forum, GM-Trucks.com, GMFullsize.com, CTSVOwners.com, CadillacForums.com, LS1Tech.com, and several others) I was one of the first to build a twin turbo setup for the '96 Impala SS. My current stable (not counting the wife's or my stock daily drivers) includes a 2010 CTS V with upper and lower pulleys, upgraded heat exchanger, ported TB, injectors and a tune and a '03 2500HD Silverado 4X4 with an 8.1L motor and a whipple supercharger. The current project I have on my lift is a 1986 Toyota truck that we have just fit a 2005 Escalade 6.0L motor in. Gonna be a Hunting Rig.

At any rate, just wanted to say hello to everyone as it looks like I will be spending some time here, (I find the collective knowledge of forums like this to be extensive and I learn a lot) and also give props to Burtman Industries.

I recently purchased a couple of 3rd gen 4Runners for my twin daughters who just got their licenses, and we are now starting down the road to modifying them. As such, we have started collecting the parts to get them set up the way they want. Clearly I've been around the block (more times than I would like to admit) so I don't spend money without doing some research on the products I am looking for, and who I send my money to. In doing so, I came across Jason at Burtman Industries. Prior to ordering, I contacted Jason to get a feel for the company and ask some questions regarding the products. He answered my texts almost immediately (even though it was about 10:00 PM Mountain time) and was knowledgeable about the 4Runner and the products I was interested in.

After ordering, I asked for an ETA on the parts and was told they should get to me in about 2 weeks. They showed up on my doorstep when he said they would, and were exactly as described and what I was expecting. I had also asked for an update while waiting and he again replied right away with the requested info.

Clearly, I can only speak to my personal experience with him and the company, but I could not have asked for a smoother transaction. I believe in giving credit where credit is due as all too often I find that folks are quick to criticize but seem to forget when things go well. Based on my experience with Jason, I will not hesitate to do business with him again in the future.

Anyway, I apologize for the length of this first post. I am looking forward to learning more about these 4Runners and hope to be able to contribute as I become more familiar with them.

Joe
 
Ooof. This has been quite the fiasco to find a reputable body shop in Denver to install the spoiler.

Either shops don’t want to mess with it bc it doesn’t have a template, or bc the material used is not ABS plastic using nut-certs to attach it. Rather my spoiler is made out of a composite material with self-tapping screws. Which - being told that this is “not the best way to secure something like this” by a tuner shop who works on GT3s is not the most satisfying thing to read. Especially after spending $360 on said spoiler, and waiting for it to arrive.

I’ll keep this post updated as the shop pointed me to a local spoiler installer. If that guy refuses, then I suppose I need to be an adult and screw this on myself.
 
Never received a refund for a returned spoiler

Jason at Burtmans Industries was quick to provide customer service once he got in touch with me.
 
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Jason B,

I had made a purchase last year and returned a spoiler due which was returned and confirmed through the shipper.

Jason verified the return, has yet to pay a refund back to me, and I will be following up with the FTC, BBB, and my financial institute in a week if this is still unresolved.

I will not recommend Burtman Industries in the current state of affairs; I'm posting here to give HIM one more chance to make this right.

Shawn.

Desert Dune 3rd gen spoiler, returned due to blemishes/ manufacturing defects.

I've emailed you in the last two weeks without a response. Make it right Jason....
Don't mean to take the wind out of your sails, but there's an entire thread here warning of his behavior which stretches back to 2012, and it's seemingly done very little to warn others. In fact, there's multiple threads as it's that prolific
 
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Jason B,

I had made a purchase last year and returned a spoiler due which was returned and confirmed through the shipper.

Jason verified the return, has yet to pay a refund back to me, and I will be following up with the FTC, BBB, and my financial institute in a week if this is still unresolved.

I will not recommend Burtman Industries in the current state of affairs; I'm posting here to give HIM one more chance to make this right.

Shawn.

Desert Dune 3rd gen spoiler, returned due to blemishes/ manufacturing defects.

I've emailed you in the last two weeks without a response. Make it right Jason....


He won't pay you back man. I'd suggest just going ahead reporting it to your bank right now. My bank paid me back right after I made the claim and resolved it with him within a couple months. Had this happen to me early last year. He might have some stuff going on in his personal life or whatever it is, don't waste much of your time with it. I'd highly suggest filing the claim and let your bank spend the time managing this so you don't have to. They'll get the money from him.
 
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Definitely looks better than stock - nice! Does it create a windscreen too?

You will have less dust on the back with this [MENTION=718595]BretMann[/MENTION] and when it's raining less collects.

Burtman Japan style rear spoiler

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Burtman Japan style rear spoiler
 
I know a few people who got the Burtman, some say the color is spot on, others say it isn't even close.

How can the spoiler mfg possibly match the color exactly on vehicles that have been exposed to a wide variety of environmental aging for a minimum of 21 years?
 
Just ordered one of these and very excited to install it next week! I think it’s really going to freshen up the look.

You're going to love it. I've been selling these now for over 15 years. First was the Jaos version, then we made our own and revised it with a much better mounting system. It's a great looking part and keeps the 3rd gen looking much newer than it is. You'll also find less water/grime on the back window and less fumes inside.

Burtman Japan style rear spoiler
 
Can I get away with getting non-painted/primered if my truck is already black?

This is already pretty expensive and another $100 is gonna hurt more. My truck didn't come with the factory spoiler... :(
 
What color would y’all go with for this? Y’all got me all scared about colors not matching…
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Rear brake light LED

Hey there guys,

I am planning on buying one of these soon, just waiting for my paycheck to come in! I just have one question. So I tried to put an LED light in my 3rd brake light and it makes a ABS light pop up on my dash, If I take it out it turns right off. So for wiring the rear brake strip for this spoiler, since they are LED's won't they also make the ABS light pop up on the dash? Just curious about that. Is there any way to fix that / will that happen when you wire this up?

thanks
 
Hey there guys,

I am planning on buying one of these soon, just waiting for my paycheck to come in! I just have one question. So I tried to put an LED light in my 3rd brake light and it makes a ABS light pop up on my dash, If I take it out it turns right off. So for wiring the rear brake strip for this spoiler, since they are LED's won't they also make the ABS light pop up on the dash? Just curious about that. Is there any way to fix that / will that happen when you wire this up?

thanks
Sounds like you have LEDs in your lower brake lights too? A load resistor will probably fix the issue too.

-Charlie
 

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