Buy a 2021 4Runner or Wait ?

[1100 Remington Man]

Came real close to buying a 4Runner last year but didn’t with the unsureness in what was going on in the economy and job security.
Then I decided I would just get a Chevy Trail Boss LT Brown color.
Problem is very few brown ones and the ones I have called on have either sold or the dealer is not discounting them and Chevy’s are Not worth MSRP period. IMHO
So if the new 4Runner is released what will happen to the value of the older 4Runners that get bad MPG ?

 

[spartacus]

Used 4runners have some'of'the best resale value so depreciation even when 6th Gen comes online should not be huge factor.

 

[lewdog998]

many people believe that buying the first year of anything is risky. I am sure things are better than in the past but there is some truth to that. While R and D can work out a lot of the potential issues, it is hard to replicate thousands of units running over the course of a year.

also, I would be weary of the new drivetrain. Small displacement turbo engines are fine in the right application, but the 4r is relatively heavy. As displacement goes down and HP goes up (or stays same), the stress on the engine and internal components goes up.
the 4.0l v6 is rated at 270hp ...or 67.5hp per liter.

if they used a 2.0 turbo 4 at the same hP, the Hp per liter jumps to 135hp.

that is double the stress on internal components. I'm no engineer, but to me that means that the new engine and components (rods, bearings, etc) have to be twice as good at the previous engine in order to have the same longevity and reliability. That being said, the new engine may already be in wide spread use, but maybe not in something of comparable gvwr.

I know its not that linear and simple, but that is just my random thoughts.

 

[ahtoxa11]

Honestly, right now is a bad time to buy a vehicle, period. Low stock and inflated prices on some vehicles mean that shoppers like you go elsewhere, which in turn means that demands are up everywhere, so there are no great savings to be had for the most part.

If you can, I'd sit it out for 6 months or more and see what happens then. You might get a good deal on the Chevy you want or you might be able to find the 4runner you want.

 

[mnofpeace]

a styling change is in order, sure.

But why wouldnt toyota just use the already in use 3.5 V6 that they put into the Lex ES/Toy Camry & Avalons rated at around 300-302hp...massage it a bit, maybe get 310-320hp out of it...and stick with it a new transmission, 6 speed maybe...

i know why they wouldnt put in the V8 from the Lex GX in it...it would sort of compete themselves out, tho i know many would welcome that engine as well...

+1 with buying a 1st run of any vehicle however...i bought my 2014 T4R because i researched and learned it was merely the 2003-continuation of things...even though Toyota seem to know what they are doing.

 

[aggrobot]

Honestly, right now is a bad time to buy a vehicle, period. Low stock and inflated prices on some vehicles mean that shoppers like you go elsewhere, which in turn means that demands are up everywhere, so there are no great savings to be had for the most part.

If you can, I'd sit it out for 6 months or more and see what happens then. You might get a good deal on the Chevy you want or you might be able to find the 4runner you want.

Great advice right here.

 

[luked14]

many people believe that buying the first year of anything is risky. I am sure things are better than in the past but there is some truth to that. While R and D can work out a lot of the potential issues, it is hard to replicate thousands of units running over the course of a year.

also, I would be weary of the new drivetrain. Small displacement turbo engines are fine in the right application, but the 4r is relatively heavy. As displacement goes down and HP goes up (or stays same), the stress on the engine and internal components goes up.
the 4.0l v6 is rated at 270hp ...or 67.5hp per liter.

if they used a 2.0 turbo 4 at the same hP, the Hp per liter jumps to 135hp.

that is double the stress on internal components. I'm no engineer, but to me that means that the new engine and components (rods, bearings, etc) have to be twice as good at the previous engine in order to have the same longevity and reliability. That being said, the new engine may already be in wide spread use, but maybe not in something of comparable gvwr.

I know its not that linear and simple, but that is just my random thoughts.

I really hope they go with a v6 like the 2.7 ecoboost. Any kind of turbo 4 just won't be enough.

 

[CO-Cygnus]

I really hope they go with a v6 like the 2.7 ecoboost. Any kind of turbo 4 just won't be enough.

Toyota's Turbo 4 is a 2.5l. That can easily get you close to 300hp/300tq.

 

[Flyer]

I don't think the resale of the older models will be hit that badly at all. The Chevy is not worth MSRP so don't do that. The depreciation hit will be significant. I would not even buy the current 4Runner...just wait it out and get the new model when possible.

I'd say the same with the current model Tundra too. In fact, I bought a new one and returned it within the 4-day window the dealership had. Just wait a few months...

 

[Jayhawk5G]

many people believe that buying the first year of anything is risky. I am sure things are better than in the past but there is some truth to that. While R and D can work out a lot of the potential issues, it is hard to replicate thousands of units running over the course of a year.

also, I would be weary of the new drivetrain. Small displacement turbo engines are fine in the right application, but the 4r is relatively heavy. As displacement goes down and HP goes up (or stays same), the stress on the engine and internal components goes up.
the 4.0l v6 is rated at 270hp ...or 67.5hp per liter.

if they used a 2.0 turbo 4 at the same hP, the Hp per liter jumps to 135hp.

that is double the stress on internal components. I'm no engineer, but to me that means that the new engine and components (rods, bearings, etc) have to be twice as good at the previous engine in order to have the same longevity and reliability. That being said, the new engine may already be in wide spread use, but maybe not in something of comparable gvwr.

I know its not that linear and simple, but that is just my random thoughts.

To be fair we are talking about the company that gave us the 2JZ-GTE which was capable stock of triple the production horsepower. If they decided to go smaller displacement with a turbo I feel confident the internals would be up to the task while maintaining Toyota dependability/reliability.

 

[Flyer]

Ford uses the 3.5L twin turbo in the Expedition and the F-150. It is powerful and quick. I see no issues with Toyota's version. Well, unless it is a 2.0 high-strung twin, in which case the turbos will burn out before 100K and you will have to drop 2K-3K to change them.

 

[GT0neX]

Just food for thought, if someone didn't already mention this, but if you have a trade-in or used car that this will be replacing, its resale value is likely inflated as well right now. So it could potentially even the cost out. It worked out for us 2 weeks ago when we picked up our 4runner and traded in our 18 accord sport. Otherwise your best bet is to wait it out if you can.

 

[mmike87]

Came real close to buying a 4Runner last year but didn’t with the unsureness in what was going on in the economy and job security.

Then I decided I would just get a Chevy Trail Boss LT Brown color.

Problem is very few brown ones and the ones I have called on have either sold or the dealer is not discounting them and Chevy’s are Not worth MSRP period. IMHO

So if the new 4Runner is released what will happen to the value of the older 4Runners that get bad MPG ?

4runners will always have demand IMO ... And if the next gen runner sucks ... Even more so.


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[Thai]

It still befuddles me why 4runners still do not have blind spot monitoring and cross-traffic warning.

We are going to wait for BSM to come to 4runner before my wife abandons her MDX.

 

[tslick]

Supply chain is tight for almost everything. Prices are going up on everything. Expect vehicle prices to move up higher as well. If you see what you want grab it because someone else will.

 

[Snowtrooper]

Had the same thoughts in 2018 but here we are. Three years later and the resale value is so inflated, Toyota could announce a flying 4runner that runs on water and I still wouldn’t be worried.