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My 2017 T4R TRD Pro Cement was my first Toyota and it is great. However, after 12 months and 12,000 miles it has shown me what I would love to really have.

  • The Cement color is hard to beat, period.
  • The simplicity of the truck is a great feature.
  • It is great over potholes.
  • It is the slowest vehicle produced on the planet.

So, I’m really considering trading/selling my T4R for a Cement Tundra TRD Pro (when one becomes available). Have a big V8, 6-speed trans that gets the same gas mileage is an alluring thing to me.

No, I do not go camping/crawling with my T4R. It’s an urban daily.

Am I crazy?
 
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My 2017 T4R TRD Pro Cement was my first Toyota and it is great. However, after 12 months and 12,000 miles it has shown me what I would love to really have.

  • The Cement color is hard to beat, period.
  • The simplicity of the truck is a great feature.
  • It is great over potholes.
  • It is the slowest vehicle produced on the planet.

So, I’m really considering trading/selling my T4R for a Cement Tundra TRD Pro (when one becomes available). Have a big V8, 6-speed trans that gets the same gas mileage is an alluring thing to me.

No, I do not go camping/crawling with my T4R. It’s an urban daily.

Am I crazy?
Rent the 5.7 for a week and you will quickly realize the mpgs aren’t close at all. I rented one two years ago for 8 days and did about 600 miles. Ninety percent of the driving was highway and I couldn’t break 17 mpg (I am a very conservative driver). Hence why I went with a Tacoma at the time... Great truck all round but I couldn’t justify the gas cost vs towing ability for my needs.
 
My 2017 T4R TRD Pro Cement was my first Toyota and it is great. However, after 12 months and 12,000 miles it has shown me what I would love to really have.

  • The Cement color is hard to beat, period.
  • The simplicity of the truck is a great feature.
  • It is great over potholes.
  • It is the slowest vehicle produced on the planet.

So, I’m really considering trading/selling my T4R for a Cement Tundra TRD Pro (when one becomes available). Have a big V8, 6-speed trans that gets the same gas mileage is an alluring thing to me.

No, I do not go camping/crawling with my T4R. It’s an urban daily.

Am I crazy?
You are not CRAZY. I would consider a Toyota Tacoma or Honda Ridgeline. I really like Ridgeline's utility.
 
There is no way you'll get the same gas mileage with a Tundra as you do with a 4Runner. If you get 17 in the 4Runner, you'll get 14 in the Tundra.
With gas prices so low, probably not an issue...but you will not achieve the same mileage.
 
I don’t think you are crazy. I have bounced back and forth between Tundras, 4Runners, and Jeep Wranglers quite a few times. And I’m near future I will probably be getting another Tundra as well....just waiting for the new TRD Pro reveal to decide if I’m waiting for a 2019 or getting one now.

Gas mileage: if you are strictly doing city stop and go traffic, then yes, you will probably get around 14 or so as the others have mentioned. But if you are like me and do a lot of city/highway mix...then mileage shouldn’t be an issue. In MY experience, I always got between 16-17.5 on my Tundra and I get somewhere around 16.5-18 in my 4Runner. All hand calculated.

With the Tundra, at least you have that power available if you feel like dropping your mpgs once in a while :-) but that is not the case with the 4Runner.

They are both great vehicles, so in my opinion, mpg difference is not that big that it would break the bank.

Just my 2 cents.


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The Tundra is huge on the inside, so props there for bigtime head and legroom. It seems like you've already got a big tow mule in your garage, so I personally would hesitate in getting something else so well equipped for heavy lifting if it's just for DD.

As mentioned above, gas mileage is probably not going to be as comparable as expected. Fuelly right now has the current gen (2014+ ) averaging 14.3ish and the 2014+ 4R at 17.6 (mine right now is 19.3, bringing up the average haha).

While the 4R definitely is hesitant to get up and go regularly, I hesitate to say that the Tundra will be much quicker with the added weight/bulk. And it's going to use a lot more gas to do the same maneuver.

Just my biased opinion :wave:
 
I think this has been talked a bunch of times. I think it depends on your needs. I was really looking at raptors or tundras at the time. I originally wanted a truck before I got the 4runner but the 4runner suited my needs better. I like the back enclosed because the dogs can have air but not be exposed to outside. I also decided I wanted to have a third row just in case. I don't really plan on using it that often because the 4runner is not really a good third row SUV but its good in a pinch. I think the 4runner gave me the best options for everything I wanted. It's reliable, looks good, still off roading worthy, and it can be modded so I dump money into (LOL). It ticked most of the boxes I wanted at the time but its not perfect of course
 
NJ and NY have terrible infrastructure maintenance so potholes are not something you can easily avoid on a daily basis. I feel much better driving a truck than a sedan for this very reason.

i would much rather have a large sedan on soft suspension over a large truck with heavy springs for potholes

it will also solve your speed and mpg issue
 
Yes you are crazy but not for the reason listed. You are crazy because you are considering the Tundra. It's an 11 year design with a cheesy/cheap interior and not worth the money. For a half ton I would go with the diesel Titan or the GMC with the 5.3 V8 which gets better than 20 on the highway. Also GM is coming out with a new half ton this fall and it is going to be way ahead of the Tundra. Until Toyota redesigns the Tundra, it is simply not worth it. YMMV
 
Am I crazy?

I don't think you're crazy for that line of thought, but I also think you'd regret it.

Here's why:
My dad has a Tundra (4 Door, Short box), and we both absolutely love the beast. It's great at our cabin, great for roadtrips, its reliable (obviously...its a Toyota), the power is great, and is extremely versatile for all conditions. I used it for a 7,200 mile road trip last fall and I wouldn't have wanted any other vehicle. I only have great things to say about the Tundra. BUT it is a bear to drive in the city/suburban areas. I have had my fair share of city/suburban driving (parallel parking, parking ramps, tight parking lots, etc etc), and it just isn't fun. I am not saying it can't be done, my dad currently uses it for his daily in Minneapolis and everyone in the state of Texas drives full size pick-ups, so it's possible. It's just not as convenient, and you're always thinking twice about how long and wide you are. My dad also nick named his Tundra "Super Slurp" or "Slurp" for short because that beast drinks fuel like it has a problem. If you can deal with size and fuel economy, you'll love it!

Obviously it's a choice you'll have to make on your own, but I wanted to share my 2 cents given that I have a fair amount of seat time in a Tundra!
 
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Ok so I am with some of the posters above, why have a big truck if you're only doing city driving? I get the pothole thing, and even if you're in love with the runner... why a TRD PRO? I mean that is the most dirt worthy 4Runner, why not a limited, which will handle the potholes just fine, still slow gas all the other things but very specifically I can't square the circle with the pro. for the money you're talking you could get a midsize luxury SUV or a Full Size luxury sedan with all wheel drive. So since this is a Toyota website an AWD LS or an AWD RX would both be more comfortable over the potholes, or a Mercedes GLE or S class Audi Q7 or A8 QUATTRO whatever I just can't get past the TRD PRO model choice. alternatively for 5k (which is close to what you'd lose for dumping the T4R) you could buy a supercharger which will make it faster, not sure if it will help with gas, and superchargers require premium gas.
 
if you are deadset on a truck/suv (masculinity reasons?), get one with full independent suspension for potholes and not a solid rear axle on stiff springs
 
if you are deadset on a truck/suv (masculinity reasons?), get one with full independent suspension for potholes and not a solid rear axle on stiff springs

comments like that destroy this forum - insinuating that the OP wants to keep owning a truck for masculinity reasons.
 
Reason why you are crazy:

The 5.7 V8 is thirsty... it's simply not much competition against Ford or Chevy when it comes to efficient V8 engines, it's probably pretty comparable to Dodge as the Hemi is also thirsty. So the idea that you will match mpg with the 4Runner is just not going to happen.

I would love to get a Land Cruiser 200 (also 5.7), but I just can't go back to 15 highway... did that with an 05 Jeep Grand Cherokee Hemi which did 11-12 mpg city, and it's just too low.
 

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