Call me crazy...

NJ Cement TRD Pro said:
My 2017 T4R TRD Pro Cement was my first Toyota and it is great. However, after 12 months and 12,000 miles it has shown me what I would love to really have.

  • The Cement color is hard to beat, period.
  • The simplicity of the truck is a great feature.
  • It is great over potholes.
  • It is the slowest vehicle produced on the planet.

So, I’m really considering trading/selling my T4R for a Cement Tundra TRD Pro (when one becomes available). Have a big V8, 6-speed trans that gets the same gas mileage is an alluring thing to me.

No, I do not go camping/crawling with my T4R. It’s an urban daily.

Am I crazy?
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I think the T4R and the Tundra are probably the worst choices for your use case. Both are heavy aged truck platforms that drive horribly compared to modern car based SUVs. They also both get pretty horrendous gas mileage. There are so many better options out there for urban driving.
 
I met a guy off this forum who had a Tundra and switched to a 4Runner. He said the following:

1) Tundra seats don't hold you in place at all
2) Tundra is not easy to maneuver
3) Tundra is way more powerful, but gets terrible gas mileage compared to the 4R
4) Having a covered cargo area in the 4R is really nice
 
SlickTRD said:
NJ and NY have terrible infrastructure maintenance so potholes are not something you can easily avoid on a daily basis. I feel much better driving a truck than a sedan for this very reason.
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PA has the worst highways one could ever imagine. Plenty of people on the road with sedans. Not sure potholes alone is a reason to get a truck.
 
I owned a 2013 Sequoia 5.7L V8 before i got my 2016 Trail, and it is VERY MUCH a thirsty vehicle. When you stomp on the accelerator, def get more kick than you do in the V6 4Runners, but you can watch that gas gauge needle drop like a stone, AND / BUT youre not getting that much more IMO in regards to speed/balls.
 
This whole discussion seems pretty "crazy" to me. It's like a guy comes along and asks, "Hey, I LOVE my 8-lb. sledgehammer, but it's not all that great for woodworking. Do you think a 12-lb. sledgehammer would be better?" ... and a bunch of people agree with him and start debating the merits of various weights of sledgehammer.

Sometimes a sledgehammer just isn't the proper tool for the job, y'know?
 
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My two cents. Brother had an F350 4door 8 foot bed. 6spd with Turbo Diesel. Nice ride, incredible power and fairly decent MPG. His business is 75% in and around the greater NYC Metro area. Sold it as biggest issue was finding parking. Too tall and long for parking spots or garages.

Bought a Tundra and never looked back. I borrowed it to move recently. Great ride especially when loaded up. Little harsh with no weight in the back. Very good in snow-little big for off road. We take one of our Runners when out in the woods playing or hunting. The 5.7L V8 very under-rated motor. The Tundra flat scoots. Size of the vehicle, weight and the engine come at cost of 14MPG around town and 16-17MPG on the road (This as long as you light pedal it and maintain 70MPH-Gets real thirsty above 70).
 
NorthwoodsRunner said:
You are not CRAZY. I would consider a Toyota Tacoma or Honda Ridgeline. I really like Ridgeline's utility.
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I owned the first gen Ridgeline, and it's a fabulous truck, for what it's worth, but nothing like the 4Runner. If I were back in a truck, I'd probably go for a Tacoma, but the Ridgeline does some really nice things.
 
SlickTRD said:
comments like that destroy this forum - insinuating that the OP wants to keep owning a truck for masculinity reasons.
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Nothing wrong with that, just understand your motivation and own it. And there are different levels of "masculinity reasons," as well as different levels of response. You can own a very "masculine" vehicle without setting off Freudian alerts when you drive around town*.

*But if you hang rubber nuts from the hitch, you aren't getting around the issue
 
engineeer said:
I met a guy off this forum who had a Tundra and switched to a 4Runner. He said the following:

1) Tundra seats don't hold you in place at all
2) Tundra is not easy to maneuver
3) Tundra is way more powerful, but gets terrible gas mileage compared to the 4R
4) Having a covered cargo area in the 4R is really nice
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All true in my experience except #1. I like the Tundra seats. It is a PITA to park and my MPG is 12 city, 15 highway and has been since I bought it new 5 years ago.

I'm considering doing the opposite of you, trading in my 2013 Tundra for a new 4Runner.
 
I came from a 2013 rock warrior. It would barely get 14 on a good day it didn't have the flex fuel engine. If you get one with the flex engine then you get even worse gas mileage. 14 I could get on the highway going slow with a tailwind. Filling up every 2.5 days on a round trip 55 mile commute sucked.

I had the doublecab version with the normal bed. I bought it so that I could tow my car trailer with it. It was great for that. Power everywhere. Mpg was down to 8 on the tow. That sucked too, but a diesel wasn't worth it.

I traded it in with 26k miles on it for the 4runner. Same routes I was driving in the Tundra are getting me 17.5-18Mpg in the 4runner.

Tundra was to big to turn around and too wide to park without being paranoid of door dings.

Decision is up to you, but I made the right decision for myself going from the Tundra to the 4runner.
 
I may be the only one who thinks this, but why does everyone think this vehicle is so slow? It gets around just fine. I've never thought it's slow. Some of you must be the kind of people who want to smoke the tires pulling away from every light.

As to the other questions, debating between a TRD Pro 4Runner or Tundra for urban driving is a little crazy. Buy what you want and I don't care if you never off road, but just realize there are vastly better vehicles for urban driving, and even ones that can haul cargo or people like an SUV or truck.
 
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Get a raptor. That way you can have your MPGs and a smooth ride over potholes. And I hear it's also fast.



See you on the raptor forums.:guitar2:
 
STX4Runner said:
I may be the only one who thinks this, but why does everyone think this vehicle is so slow? It gets around just fine. I've never thought it's slow. Some of you must be the kind of people who want to smoke the tires pulling away from every light.
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Yeah, I've never had an issue with the 4Runner getting up and going and overtaking people.

You want slow, drive a 1989 VW Vanagon Westfalia. Now that's a slow bastard.
 
I think it's just that a lot of people don't want to put their foot down and let it rev. A 5th gen is not slow in any sense of the word. Yeah, you won't win many drag races against 21st century sports cars (but you will against a lot of 20th century models) but mine is pretty fast. Last weekend coming home from skiing I hit a long uphill 6% grade on I-70 at 50MPH, accelerated to 85 or so, got balked back down to 50 by traffic then accelerated back up to 85 at the top. It's known as Floyd Hill and is one of the steepest grades on the entire interstate highway system. No "slow" vehicle will perform like that up the back side of Floyd. Period.
 
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