Can Someone Suggest a Lift?

[LTDSC]

Im at 97k miles and when i installed my Daystar i noticed some oil build up on passenger strut. So needless to say im buying new struts/springs here to replace. But it still has some life left until i can piece everything together.

 

[sport05]

One more question about the daystar/5100s.

I know the 5100s are adjustable, so are you able to adjust them in the rear so that some of that loss of down travel is relieved? Or would you still be stuck with the same issue in the rear?



Thanks!

 

[LTDSC]

One more question about the daystar/5100s.

I know the 5100s are adjustable, so are you able to adjust them in the rear so that some of that loss of down travel is relieved? Or would you still be stuck with the same issue in the rear?



Thanks!

rears are just shocks and non adjustable, so they are ready to for 2" lift

 

[PaulZ]

It should come with instructions. What trim model do you have (sr5, sport, or limited)?

I have an 06 SR5

 

[ARK_SWAMP_RIDER]

I have an 06 SR5

In this case, you do not have XREAS so no worries there. XREAS makes install a little more difficult and most shops won't touch it for liability reasons (not that there's an issue, they just don't want to be liable for a $2000 suspension).

If you have basic tools and some time, you could do the install yourself. It's not too hard, just take your time and follow the write-ups and you should be fine. I most definitely wouldn't pay $450 for the install.

 

[ARK_SWAMP_RIDER]

One more question about the daystar/5100s.

I know the 5100s are adjustable, so are you able to adjust them in the rear so that some of that loss of down travel is relieved? Or would you still be stuck with the same issue in the rear?



Thanks!

As said, the rears are not adjustable. They are, however, 2" longer than the stock shocks. This brings up a good point also. On the front, they are adjustable by adding preload to the coil. When this is done, you also loose down travel. So the fronts at stock height would have more down travel than when set at 2.5" lift. However, they are designed for this so the loss of down travel isn't an issue like it is with stock shocks.

Edit: It's not suggested to combine any type of front lift spacer with the 5100's. The added spacer can cause over-extension and leads to other issues. This is for the front coilovers only.

 

[PaulZ]

Think I'm switching to the Nitto 275/65/18's...I guess they will still work with the Daystart lift, which I'm now having put on, on Saturday.

This brings me to another question...

The guy who's putting the lift on, says that because it's a 4wd, that because I'm going to a bigger size wheel, I should call the dealership and have the speedometer re-calibrated.

And if I don't have it re-calibrated, he's saying that I could ruin my 4x4 and also my transmission after a certain point in time...

Has anyone here heard of anything like this?

 

[ARK_SWAMP_RIDER]

Think I'm switching to the Nitto 275/65/18's...I guess they will still work with the Daystart lift, which I'm now having put on, on Saturday.

This brings me to another question...

The guy who's putting the lift on, says that because it's a 4wd, that because I'm going to a bigger size wheel, I should call the dealership and have the speedometer re-calibrated.

And if I don't have it re-calibrated, he's saying that I could ruin my 4x4 and also my transmission after a certain point in time...

Has anyone here heard of anything like this?

The 275/65/18 is taller than what you have now, not going to help the rubbing (if that's your reason for switching).

Bigger tires will throw off the speedometer/odometer but shouldn't cause any harm to the drivetrain. I'm not aware of anything the dealer can do to correct the speedometer. When i added larger tires, i installed a speedohealer to correct the issue.

Speedometer correction - Toyota 120 Platforms Forum

 

[PaulZ]

The 275/65/18 is taller than what you have now, not going to help the rubbing (if that's your reason for switching).

Bigger tires will throw off the speedometer/odometer but shouldn't cause any harm to the drivetrain. I'm not aware of anything the dealer can do to correct the speedometer. When i added larger tires, i installed a speedohealer to correct the issue.

Speedometer correction - Toyota 120 Platforms Forum

Thanks for the reply!

I am switching because I think with the lift, there'll be more space there and the shorter tire will look more awkward.

Aside from this day star lift, is there anything else other than some trimming that I will need to do to accommodate these tires?

Thanks!

 

[ARK_SWAMP_RIDER]

Thanks for the reply!

I am switching because I think with the lift, there'll be more space there and the shorter tire will look more awkward.

Aside from this day star lift, is there anything else other than some trimming that I will need to do to accommodate these tires?

Thanks!

I wouldn't think so. On the front, you'll probably need move the fender liner forward, trim the edge of the bumper, and trim/remove the front mud flaps. Near the bottom of this page, it describes how to do all this except the mud flaps:
Toyota 4Runner Wheel Spacers

The rear should not rub, if it does it will be very minor on the rear mud flap only when the rear is fully flexed.

 

[PaulZ]

I wouldn't think so. On the front, you'll probably need move the fender liner forward, trim the edge of the bumper, and trim/remove the front mud flaps. Near the bottom of this page, it describes how to do all this except the mud flaps:
Toyota 4Runner Wheel Spacers

The rear should not rub, if it does it will be very minor on the rear mud flap only when the rear is fully flexed.

Thanks man, you've been a ton of help!

One last question, since I just got this 4runner not too long ago, I don't know when the last time the shocks/struts were replaced.

I'm assuming that if I chose to replace anything, now would be the time to do it...would you recommend I give anything in regards to this job, to avoid having to do it later?

If so, what exactly, in your best opinion?

Thanks!

 

[ARK_SWAMP_RIDER]

Thanks man, you've been a ton of help!

One last question, since I just got this 4runner not too long ago, I don't know when the last time the shocks/struts were replaced.

I'm assuming that if I chose to replace anything, now would be the time to do it...would you recommend I give anything in regards to this job, to avoid having to do it later?

If so, what exactly, in your best opinion?

Thanks!

How many miles are on your 4runner? You're right, may be a good time for shocks. KYB is a decent stock replacement. Since you're lifting, the bilstein 5100s would work better since they are designed for lifted applications. The Bilsteins are a little stiffer than stock, but it doesn't seem harsh or anything. The Bilsteins are adjustable on the front to provide lift, so you actually only would use the rear spacers, not the front.

 

[PaulZ]

How many miles are on your 4runner? You're right, may be a good time for shocks. KYB is a decent stock replacement. Since you're lifting, the bilstein 5100s would work better since they are designed for lifted applications. The Bilsteins are a little stiffer than stock, but it doesn't seem harsh or anything. The Bilsteins are adjustable on the front to provide lift, so you actually only would use the rear spacers, not the front.

190k but it looks like all the oil changes etc were all done on time.

I want to say the shocks were done at least once but can't seem to find that info now that I'm looking for it.

 

[ARK_SWAMP_RIDER]

190k but it looks like all the oil changes etc were all done on time.

I want to say the shocks were done at least once but can't seem to find that info now that I'm looking for it.

If they haven't been done, its definitely time. The factory shocks are black and should have a label with a Toyota part number (shocks are made by Tokico). This will only tell you they are oem, they still could have been replaced at some point. If you haven't done so, you can create an account on the Toyota owners site and check your vehicles maintenance history. Anything done at a Toyota dealer should be documented there. If the shocks are oem, maybe this will show where they were replaced by the dealer.

Toyota Owners Official Website: Service Coupons, Owners Manuals, Service Scheduling and More

 

[PaulZ]

If they haven't been done, its definitely time. The factory shocks are black and should have a label with a Toyota part number (shocks are made by Tokico). This will only tell you they are oem, they still could have been replaced at some point. If you haven't done so, you can create an account on the Toyota owners site and check your vehicles maintenance history. Anything done at a Toyota dealer should be documented there. If the shocks are oem, maybe this will show where they were replaced by the dealer.

Toyota Owners Official Website: Service Coupons, Owners Manuals, Service Scheduling and More

Thanks for that link. I also called and they saw the CV joints and drive belt, etc changed but not the shocks.

I called about those 5100 shocks and I'm told the fronts are adjustable by 2.5" and the rears up to 2".

So I guess if I purchase those, it will eliminate the need for this Daystar lift? Would I need anything else other than these shocks?

Thanks!

 

[ARK_SWAMP_RIDER]

Thanks for that link. I also called and they saw the CV joints and drive belt, etc changed but not the shocks.

I called about those 5100 shocks and I'm told the fronts are adjustable by 2.5" and the rears up to 2".

So I guess if I purchase those, it will eliminate the need for this Daystar lift? Would I need anything else other than these shocks?

Thanks!

The fronts are adjustable for up to 2.5" lift. In this case the shocks actually provide the lift by changing the positioning of the lower spring perch. The rear 5100s can accommodate up to 2" lift, but are not adjustable to actually provide any lift so you will need rear spacers.

If you are going to go with the 5100s, you can purchase the 1.5" rear spacers for about $40. This would allow you to either return the 2.5/1.5 kit or maybe sell on here.

 

[PaulZ]

The fronts are adjustable for up to 2.5" lift. In this case the shocks actually provide the lift by changing the positioning of the lower spring perch. The rear 5100s can accommodate up to 2" lift, but are not adjustable to actually provide any lift so you will need rear spacers.

If you are going to go with the 5100s, you can purchase the 1.5" rear spacers for about $40. This would allow you to either return the 2.5/1.5 kit or maybe sell on here.

Thanks! I just ordered the Bilstein 5100's from a company called AJusa...and processed the return for the Daystar...

You wouldn't happen to know what type of rear lift, or any place where I could get a 1.5" lift for the rear would you?

Thanks!

 

[ARK_SWAMP_RIDER]

Thanks! I just ordered the Bilstein 5100's from a company called AJusa...and processed the return for the Daystar...

You wouldn't happen to know what type of rear lift, or any place where I could get a 1.5" lift for the rear would you?

Thanks!

AJUSA has some of the best prices around on the 5100's. I've ordered from them, highly recommend them.

For the rear, you can use the same spacer that was in the 2.5/1.5 kit. It's approx $40.
Daystar Part KT09127BK - ComfortRide Suspension Coil Spring Spacer Kit

or

Daystar KT09127BK Comfort Ride 1.5" Rear Coil Spring Spacer Kit : Amazon.com : Automotive

 

[PaulZ]

Thanks again! Now would you also recommend those Spidertrax wheel spacers, or would you think I could do without them?

 

[ARK_SWAMP_RIDER]

Thanks again! Now would you also recommend those Spidertrax wheel spacers, or would you think I could do without them?

Wheel spacers are only required if you go to a 285 or wider tire.