UMMM the gas milage between full time 4wheel drive and my v6 over the period of a year is quite a bit . I never leave mine in 4 wheel drive and have put a little over 27,000 miles on it . I still get just over 20mpg . I laugh at all who bought the V8 and have to pay the gas prices we are seeing these days .
CAN't Believe it! V8 < V6
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Re: Re: CAN't Believe it! V8 < V6
EPA estimates may only show a 1-2 MPG difference, but it sounds like in real-world driving, the difference is more significant. I'm still trying to decide between the two.
The V6 I test drove seemed to have adequate power, and I don't do any towing, so I'm not sure that in these times of rising gas prices that it's wise to buy a vehicle that uses more of it.
In the past, resale may have been better with a V8, but that may be changing, as we are seeing dealers having a hard time moving the V8s. A check of dealer inventory in my area shows that about 95% of the 05s left on the lots are V8s (at least with 4WD models). Whether it's rational or not, people are obviously reluctant to get the V8.
biglatka said:
EPA estimates may only show a 1-2 MPG difference, but it sounds like in real-world driving, the difference is more significant. I'm still trying to decide between the two.
The V6 I test drove seemed to have adequate power, and I don't do any towing, so I'm not sure that in these times of rising gas prices that it's wise to buy a vehicle that uses more of it.
In the past, resale may have been better with a V8, but that may be changing, as we are seeing dealers having a hard time moving the V8s. A check of dealer inventory in my area shows that about 95% of the 05s left on the lots are V8s (at least with 4WD models). Whether it's rational or not, people are obviously reluctant to get the V8.
sharp4runr said:ahhh, how quickly this turned into another V6 - V8 thread
The V6 sells more than the V8, go figure.
Yep it's just a matter of time before a V8 guy calls the v6 guys gay treehuggers for not getting the manly V8, or a V6 guy to call the V8 guys gas pigs compensating for their small penises for not getting the eco-friendly V6 - and then we have to shut down the whole damn thread
IIIBradIII
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hehe can't we have a good pissing match every now and then? It's not like our wives care what's under the hood so we have to pontificate somewhere.
As for me, I am in love with this V8. We just came back from a 17 hr trip (round-trip) and I was extremely pleased with the mpg. We ran through a cold front and ended up not using the a/c much, so keep that in mind, but when I kept the average ~65mph it hovered around ~23.8mpg (by the computer, which I hear is liberal). Once my average bumped up over 80mph it was doing about ~21mpg. Not bad considering that was crossing the gorge W of Knoxville and the Smoky Mountains between SC & TN.
It was also the first time I really had the opportunity to enjoy all that power out on the open road - after reviewing the GPS stats later I realized we hit 107mph - oops! :awais:
As for me, I am in love with this V8. We just came back from a 17 hr trip (round-trip) and I was extremely pleased with the mpg. We ran through a cold front and ended up not using the a/c much, so keep that in mind, but when I kept the average ~65mph it hovered around ~23.8mpg (by the computer, which I hear is liberal). Once my average bumped up over 80mph it was doing about ~21mpg. Not bad considering that was crossing the gorge W of Knoxville and the Smoky Mountains between SC & TN.
It was also the first time I really had the opportunity to enjoy all that power out on the open road - after reviewing the GPS stats later I realized we hit 107mph - oops! :awais:
Derek
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sharp4runr said:ahhh, how quickly this turned into another V6 - V8 thread
The V6 sells more than the V8, go figure.
I've owned both, and honestly I was going to get another V6 this time around, but the only SE with no sunroof just happened to have the V8. That being said, now I don't think I could go back to the V6, but I still loved the V6 when I had it if that makes any sense.
Gromulus
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If any of us "really" cared about our gas mileage, then we would not be driving SUVs. We would all be driving hybrids (Prius, Insight) or at very least a Civic or Corolla.
I drive 38 miles to work (one way) each day - about 22K per year total. I average about 19.5 - 20 MPG with my V8. Assuming I would get 22MPG with a V6, also assuming gas at 3.00/GL than I would save a whopping $300 per year! If I was lucky enough to even get 24 MPG, then it would be staggering $550/year. Neither amount is enough to take my family to Disney. LOL!
My sister-in-law drives a 6 cylinder Jeep Liberty and she gets worse gas mileage than my V8 4Runner.
Hey, to each his own.
If any of us "really" cared about our gas mileage, then we would not be driving SUVs. We would all be driving hybrids (Prius, Insight) or at very least a Civic or Corolla.
I drive 38 miles to work (one way) each day - about 22K per year total. I average about 19.5 - 20 MPG with my V8. Assuming I would get 22MPG with a V6, also assuming gas at 3.00/GL than I would save a whopping $300 per year! If I was lucky enough to even get 24 MPG, then it would be staggering $550/year. Neither amount is enough to take my family to Disney. LOL!
My sister-in-law drives a 6 cylinder Jeep Liberty and she gets worse gas mileage than my V8 4Runner.
Hey, to each his own.
Re: Re: Re: CAN't Believe it! V8 < V6
Not so, at least in my case. I posted on another thread my actual calculations for both the V6 and V8 (I've owned them both), so that 1-2 mpg difference I stated was actual, not EPA, based on similar conditions and driver. Do a search for my original post.
The difference in dollars is $200 for 15,000 miles at $3.00/gal (in my experience). I've found it to be worth the switch and wouldn't go back to the V6. I've never heard of anyone trading in their V8 4Runner for a V6, but quite a few have gone the other way.
speedbump said:
Not so, at least in my case. I posted on another thread my actual calculations for both the V6 and V8 (I've owned them both), so that 1-2 mpg difference I stated was actual, not EPA, based on similar conditions and driver. Do a search for my original post.
The difference in dollars is $200 for 15,000 miles at $3.00/gal (in my experience). I've found it to be worth the switch and wouldn't go back to the V6. I've never heard of anyone trading in their V8 4Runner for a V6, but quite a few have gone the other way.
Only drawback to the V8 I can think of (and these are based on problems cropping up in LC 100's around the 100K mi mark):
-exhaust manifolds on the V8 crack (@$1800 replacement)
-timing belt needs changing every 90K mi; V6 has a timing chain?
-starter contacts for the V8 fail around 80-100K mi. Starter is located under the intake manifold (major job to replace).
-electronic brake booster pump has failed on a few vehicles (but it seems both the V6 and V8 runner's use this setup, so no advantage in either case)...$1K-1.5K replacement.
- Since the taco and FJ cruiser will have/have a 6spd manual, you can theoretically upgrade the V6 to a manual and source all parts from your dealer. The V8 LC is available overseas w/ a 5spd manual, but you have to source the tranny and other parts from overseas.
-V6 engine compartment looks like it has more space space, might be easier to incorporate a dual battery setup (remains to be seen).
Still, I'd still favor a V8. As the V6 is a relatively new engine, you just don't know what problems are likely to occur at 100K mi.
-exhaust manifolds on the V8 crack (@$1800 replacement)
-timing belt needs changing every 90K mi; V6 has a timing chain?
-starter contacts for the V8 fail around 80-100K mi. Starter is located under the intake manifold (major job to replace).
-electronic brake booster pump has failed on a few vehicles (but it seems both the V6 and V8 runner's use this setup, so no advantage in either case)...$1K-1.5K replacement.
- Since the taco and FJ cruiser will have/have a 6spd manual, you can theoretically upgrade the V6 to a manual and source all parts from your dealer. The V8 LC is available overseas w/ a 5spd manual, but you have to source the tranny and other parts from overseas.
-V6 engine compartment looks like it has more space space, might be easier to incorporate a dual battery setup (remains to be seen).
Still, I'd still favor a V8. As the V6 is a relatively new engine, you just don't know what problems are likely to occur at 100K mi.
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TeryT
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Well those of us that tow, know the V8 is one nice little engine, that puts out great torque (even more than most competitor's next larger displacements). I got the 4Runner for a number of reasons, as opposed to a larger truck or SUV. A couple of these reasons were the smaller size would fit in my garage, and there is slightly better mileage both towing & not (if you drive it conservatively).
Does anyone know how much Toyota dealers charge for a timing belt replacement on this V8?
Does anyone know how much Toyota dealers charge for a timing belt replacement on this V8?
I certainly don't want to start a V6 vs. V8 thread, but I drove both and the difference in acceleration was very minimal, if any, and maybe I'm the only one that notices this, but when I switch from four-wheel to two-wheel my V6 seem to handle better. Two-wheel handling is more responsive. If I were to do a lot of towing I certainly would get the V8, but what if gas goes to $5.00 a gallon like in Europe? That 1 or 2 MPG will make a big difference in your pocket. I'll close by saying if money were not an object I would get the V8, but both are great engines. Oh, and by the way, I went and checked out the new 2006's and it's just my opinion, but those new fender wells make the wheels look so much smaller. I personally don't care for the new look, but again, that is just my opinion.
05ToyRunner
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I got my 2005 V8 in August.
I kept seeing the Toyota commercials on TV, $269 a month lease. I was a bit disappointed to find out that it was only for the V8s not the V6. But when I found out it was only 2 -3 mph difference, the V8 really wasn't that much worse on gas.
So I'm paying $284 a month on a 36 month lease, because mine has an extra option package, and I still think its an incredicle deal for the truck I got.
And so far, I'm at 17 mpg overall. Which is as good if not better than my old ratty v6 Ford Exploder.
I kept seeing the Toyota commercials on TV, $269 a month lease. I was a bit disappointed to find out that it was only for the V8s not the V6. But when I found out it was only 2 -3 mph difference, the V8 really wasn't that much worse on gas.
So I'm paying $284 a month on a 36 month lease, because mine has an extra option package, and I still think its an incredicle deal for the truck I got.
And so far, I'm at 17 mpg overall. Which is as good if not better than my old ratty v6 Ford Exploder.
greasefingers
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Terry: it around $ 400 smackers for the two belts (serpentine & timing) Around $ 700 gets you both belts, water pump, cam & crank seals and a tensioner pulley. It depends on where you live.
It will take a full day to do all things listed above, if you do it yourself. Not very difficult but a lot of parts need to be removed. I hope to tackle this someday but I will only replace the belts & water pump if the are no signs of oil leaks. I will probably wait till around 100 to 120 k miles to do this. The water pump is around $ 120. The timing belt $ 40 and the serpentine belt is $ 60.
I picked up a new serpentine belt for my '03 V8 4Runner (replaced it at a little over 50k because it looked a little weathered and crackly) for about $20-25 at a parts store. Took about 5-10 minutes to replace it.
The timing belt looks like a much more involved process, so I'll likely leave that to the dealer and I'll also most likely replace it at 100k or so, since they seem to last pretty well based on what people seem to be experiencing on Tundras. $400-700 in preventive maintenance every 100k miles is nothing. "Unscheduled" maintenance on a Ford or GM at the six-digit mark will cost significantly more than that.
Ricky
The timing belt looks like a much more involved process, so I'll likely leave that to the dealer and I'll also most likely replace it at 100k or so, since they seem to last pretty well based on what people seem to be experiencing on Tundras. $400-700 in preventive maintenance every 100k miles is nothing. "Unscheduled" maintenance on a Ford or GM at the six-digit mark will cost significantly more than that.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Running rebate on 2006
I thought I was quick enough to remove my list as soon as I found it was a mistake. It was still too late.
But, you can still get $250 back from your dealer ($750-$500)
OMG.........paulnohio said::xnuts: Man, you almost made me scream!! I just bought my 06' last week and got a $500 rebate. After reading your post, I almost freaked out and had to call my dealer. I was for dang sure going to get my full $3000 rebate.
I thought I was quick enough to remove my list as soon as I found it was a mistake. It was still too late.
But, you can still get $250 back from your dealer ($750-$500)
