Ceiling Cargo Net

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I made this out of paracord and Black Diamond Rocklock Screwgate Carabiners (bought from Amazon.com).

I decided to take on this task because:
1. We have behind the seat organizers, but they take up leg room when stuffed with things
2. It just seems like a waste of space up there
3. Easier access for my wife when she needs things, and my 2 year old can't reach it
4. Could have bought a cargo net, trim to size and call it a day, but paracord is very versatile, and so are the carabiners.

Some notes:
1. I was short paracord at the very end, so it looks like crap on one side, but still functional. Despite doing a test weave, and leaving about 6 inches extra, I was still short. I believe my problem was the test weave was with just two strands, I should have tested with three strands, and gave at least an extra feet.
2. I was doing this in the cold. Should have just started up the car, my fingers were freezing.
3. Give myself more time next time, was doing it when the kiddos were taking a nap, their naps are shorter and shorter lately.
4. I would probably make the knots more frequently to make the webbing openings smaller, to hold smaller things. But we'll see if the need comes up for that, then I'll do it proper.
5. Burn the ends so they aren't so frayed.
6. I thought of extending it all the way to the back, but the hooks in the back were too weak. I was pulling the paracord very tight, and if I were to do that to the hooks in the back, I'm sure they would break.
7. The handles are still fully functional

This is just my testing phase, we'll see how it goes, then I'll go back to the drawing board and improve it. For now, it'll be used mainly for diapers, extra clothes for the kids, bags of chips, snacks, etc., anything light. It can NOT hold anything really heavy because it'll block the rearview mirror's view.

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Even this jacket/coat was causing too much of a droop
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But for S's and G's, it held up this rifle just fine :) It didn't block the rearview mirror's view at all
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I'll update my experiences and modification with this in the future.
 
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Couple of things...

You can easily replace the plastic hooks in the back with D rings. There's a thread on here somewhere with the part numbers for FJC D rings you can use.

The front of the net seem pretty open. What happens if you have to make an emergency (hard) stop? You wouldn't want to end up with a bunch of stuff landing on your head or hitting the windshield in that situation.

Looks like a good start otherwise, just wanted to give you a couple suggestions.
 
Looks like a nice idea, what if you made another net the same exact size and put it together so the stuff you're trying to hold is "sandwiched" in between the two? One concern of mines is, the roof liner material is kind of fragile, if you look at it the wrong way you might leave a permanent mark, lol.
 
Very useful idea with some refinement. I say take it to the back hooks with some D-Rings and make it loop back over itself in the front several inches to prevent dislodging under stopping force.

I'm glad you posted this, i think it will go someplace.
 
Couple of things...

You can easily replace the plastic hooks in the back with D rings. There's a thread on here somewhere with the part numbers for FJC D rings you can use.

The front of the net seem pretty open. What happens if you have to make an emergency (hard) stop? You wouldn't want to end up with a bunch of stuff landing on your head or hitting the windshield in that situation.

Looks like a good start otherwise, just wanted to give you a couple suggestions.

Thanks for the info on the FJC D-rings, that's exactly what I need for this project!

The part number is 58460-35012, called the luggage striker assembly, found from this thread http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/115504-raingler-cargo-nets.html You mentioned in that thread that you ordered some, how's it holding up? Pretty straight forward install I assume?

Found more info here Offroad Concepts/ Raingler Cargo Barrier Net Installed - Toyota FJ Cruiser Forum about the D-rings and the disassembly of the coat hanger.

I agree with the lack of netting in the front to prevent things from flying. Thinking of the best way to go about this...

Looks like a nice idea, what if you made another net the same exact size and put it together so the stuff you're trying to hold is "sandwiched" in between the two? One concern of mines is, the roof liner material is kind of fragile, if you look at it the wrong way you might leave a permanent mark, lol.

And I think you figured out the best way to go about this :) I'm thinking of attach the left and right sides to prevent stuff from falling out the left and right side. Then somehow attaching the front and back sides in a way that I could easily open and close the two nets to put stuff in and take stuff out. Still thinking about how to do that.

If you want to hang your AR from the roof you could try this. I don't have it but happened to stumble upon it.

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That's actually pretty cool, but I'm not going that route. Hanging the rifle up there was just for fun :)

[QUOTE="TOY2G, post: 1585952, member: 64685"]Very useful idea with some refinement. I say take it to the back hooks with some D-Rings and make it loop back over itself in the front several inches to prevent dislodging under stopping force.

I'm glad you posted this, i think it will go someplace.[/QUOTE]

I really hated not being stretch the net back there. With the D-rings, I think this net will have much more usefulness.

For now, I am thinking of making two sandwiched nets, one in the front, one in the back. I think one long net would make it hard to put things in and take things out. Plus it would probably cause too much sag if the net is too long. I think my lack of weaving skills caused a little sag too, but I'm sure I could clean that up with a little patience and more time to complete this, instead of the 20 minutes to I took.

I'll report back with an update. It'll be weeks from now though, that's when I have a some time off.

Thanks for all the advice and suggestions!
 
You mentioned in that thread that you ordered some, how's it holding up? Pretty straight forward install I assume?
Works well enough, but I've just been using them for a cargo net that I set up as a barrier for the back. Install is really easy, you just have to pop the plastic covers off the hooks and unscrew the bolts. The D rings just bolt right into the same holes.
 
Update:

Used the netting during our roadtrip down to TX to visit family and my wife LOVED it, surprisingly! She said it was the best thing I did to the 4R. She liked it because she was able to put everything she need access to within arms reach, like diapers, wet wipes, snacks, clothing for the kids, etc. She suggested to make the net bigger so she could put more stuff up there, and the holes smaller so things won't fall through as easily. I also didn't like how it sagged with all the stuff up there, it made the rear-view mirror useless, but then again we had stuff packed all the way up in the back, so I couldn't see out the back anyways. But I want to see out the back, so that was something I had to work on.

As expected, hard braking caused some things to fall onto me while driving. Luckily it was just an almost-empty box of doughnuts lol

So after the trip I worked on making the net larger with smaller holes, making it sag less, and fix the problem of stuff flying towards the front with hard braking.

I took my time making the net larger with smaller holes, took at least 2 hours, yes I know, too long!

To fix the sagging problem, I simply used some bungee cords found at Walmart and made a "X". I was able to put easily 10 pounds up there without any sag. As before, not even 5 pounds caused sag.

And to prevent stuff from flying towards the front, I simply strapped a duffel bag up there lol It fits great up there with some space on the sides so I can shove a jacket up there for easy access. With the bag I could also have the windows down and not worry about stuff flying everywhere. And if I need to take everything down from the net, I would just simply take the bag down and everything is already in it.

We keep a bunch of hooks on the net and hang a bunch of stuff up there like sunglasses, water bottles, toys that act like a mobile for the 1 year old.

It does cover the light in the center of the ceiling, but we simply use the small Luci Solar Lanterns https://www.mpowerd.com/ when we travel. Charge it during the day drive, use it all night :) It's really light weight so it hangs perfectly from the net.

Overall I like the mod and my wife loves it!
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Edit: I did replace the back hooks with the D-rings, they are heavy duty and I think the could handle the load of a ceiling cargo net, but it looks like it would be too low and maybe hit the head of the passengers in the back, so I am putting it off for now because the front cargo net is sufficient for the time being.
 
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I made this out of paracord and Black Diamond Rocklock Screwgate Carabiners (bought from Amazon.com).

I decided to take on this task because:
1. We have behind the seat organizers, but they take up leg room when stuffed with things
2. It just seems like a waste of space up there
3. Easier access for my wife when she needs things, and my 2 year old can't reach it
4. Could have bought a cargo net, trim to size and call it a day, but paracord is very versatile, and so are the carabiners.

Some notes:
1. I was short paracord at the very end, so it looks like crap on one side, but still functional. Despite doing a test weave, and leaving about 6 inches extra, I was still short. I believe my problem was the test weave was with just two strands, I should have tested with three strands, and gave at least an extra feet.
2. I was doing this in the cold. Should have just started up the car, my fingers were freezing.
3. Give myself more time next time, was doing it when the kiddos were taking a nap, their naps are shorter and shorter lately.
4. I would probably make the knots more frequently to make the webbing openings smaller, to hold smaller things. But we'll see if the need comes up for that, then I'll do it proper.
5. Burn the ends so they aren't so frayed.
6. I thought of extending it all the way to the back, but the hooks in the back were too weak. I was pulling the paracord very tight, and if I were to do that to the hooks in the back, I'm sure they would break.
7. The handles are still fully functional

This is just my testing phase, we'll see how it goes, then I'll go back to the drawing board and improve it. For now, it'll be used mainly for diapers, extra clothes for the kids, bags of chips, snacks, etc., anything light. It can NOT hold anything really heavy because it'll block the rearview mirror's view.

20140109_142219_zps038e7d04.jpg~original


Even this jacket/coat was causing too much of a droop
20140109_134852_zpsd1e8a744.jpg~original


But for S's and G's, it held up this rifle just fine :) It didn't block the rearview mirror's view at all
20140109_141916_zps6b44884f.jpg~original

20140109_142044_zps6571ca37.jpg~original


I'll update my experiences and modification with this in the future.

I really love the contrast :) Baby chair with a biga$$ gun hangin' from the roof. Nice man really cool.
 
I'll bump this because I used some of the info in building my own net. The FJ Crusier D rings, especially, are quite useful.

28"x28" ATV cargo net, a paracord frame, a NiteIze "CamJam" cord lock to secure the paracord, FJ cruiser D rings, and some velcro wraps to tie the cargo net to the paracord frame.

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I'll bump this because I used some of the info in building my own net. The FJ Crusier D rings, especially, are quite useful.

28"x28" ATV cargo net, a paracord frame, a NiteIze "CamJam" cord lock to secure the paracord, FJ cruiser D rings, and some velcro wraps to tie the cargo net to the paracord frame.

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How are the back anchor points attached. Obviously they are screwed into the ceiling somehow but into what to give them strength?

Great idea btw, like it!
 
How are the back anchor points attached. Obviously they are screwed into the ceiling somehow but into what to give them strength?

Great idea btw, like it!

The D rings? They replace the "coat hooks" that are there from the factory. Those hooks are bolted in, you just open up the plastic cover over the bolt, use a 10mm socket to remove the bolt, remove the coat hook, and then install the D ring using the bolt you just took out. Longer to type it than do it. Very secure.
 
The D rings? They replace the "coat hooks" that are there from the factory. Those hooks are bolted in, you just open up the plastic cover over the bolt, use a 10mm socket to remove the bolt, remove the coat hook, and then install the D ring using the bolt you just took out. Longer to type it than do it. Very secure.

If someone is wanting to do the D-ring install and keep the coat hooks you can, it takes some trimming of the coat hook with a razor knife. I have yet to use the coat hooks but just an FYI for anyone interested.
 
I'm guessing you only keep soft, light weight items up there. Any issues or concerns with stuff flying forward under hard braking or worst case an accident?

Can you see back through your rear view mirror? It also looks like you don't have a sun roof so you have a little more head room. Didn't want my sunroof, but couldn't find one with out....
 
The part number given for the D rings was 58460-35012 which is described as a "Striker Assy, Luggage" for a 2015 Scion. That may still be correct. Can someone confirm? Thanks.
 
Instead of the rear anchor placement strength, I would worry more on the front handles as far as strength is concerned for an anchor point.
Those handles are only held in place by small clips, not bolts..... at least the 2014's are made this way.

I know this because I was going to replace them with FJ handles and that is what I found!
 
I don't know if I would want my rifle bouncing around on bumps, or worse yet coming loose in a crash and bashing me or someone else in the head. I have been eyeballing this rack. great idea for coats and the like.

SBR « Big Sky Racks
 
Blue Ridge Overland came out with this earlier this week.
4Runner Attic
I ordered one seems like a good idea for storing light weight stuff will probably keep a woobie up there and out of the way...
 

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