Clear Coat Durability for different colors?

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Hello All. I'm going to be purchasing a 2014-2015 TE around oct-dec and can't decide between the black or dark grey colors.

I've been hearing that black cars are hard to keep clean, but what I'm more concerned about is the durability of the clear coat, and how much paint chips from rocks on the highway will show up.

I'll be leasing this car, and if for some unfortunate reason I have to give it back, I know they will just shred your bank account for unavoidable highway dings and random scratches.

And if I do (hopefully) keep this car for ten+ years, I would like the clear coat and the paint to last and be durable.

Does the grey color have a better, more durable clear coat?
 
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I do not know for sure but I would guess the same clear coat is used on all clear coat colors all applied by robots.
 
Get one of those clear bar deals on it, you'll get a ton a paint chips on the front of the hood, at least I do. Don't think color would matter there.
 
can you elaborate please? I don't quite understand what you mean.

It's a film that will protect the paint on leading edge areas vulnerable to chips.... It more or less disappears when applied, but can be removed.

It's not cheap though and is usually only applied in small areas.
 
It's a film that will protect the paint on leading edge areas vulnerable to chips.... It more or less disappears when applied, but can be removed.

It's not cheap though and is usually only applied in small areas.

It's listed as an accessory in the Toyota website "Build" page. The price is shown.

I saw one of these on a 5th gen white vehicle where the trailing edge was peeling up. It convinced me not to pay for this clear coat hood bra.

Get the plastic wind deflector for the front hood if you want protection. They are easy to install and can be removed easily. Also listed in the accessory section.
 
I think it's only useful on front edge of hood and I wouldn't get it from a dealer. I have a ton of chips in the paint along the front of my hood. I'm due a new hood from hail damage so it doesn't bother me. But if I were buying anew truck I'd probably get it along that spot.
 
I have Nautical Blue, gets dirty fast, and every litte things shows. I have scuffs in the clear coat. Seems To scratch and scuff easy. Lease, get the silver. Just my opinion.
 
I hated the black. I owned it nine months before trading up to the grey. It looks clean almost all the time. Black looks great when it's clean.... but that lasts all of five seconds. Paint chips are inevitable if you do any freeway driving. I just turned over 40k (yes I know that's a lot of miles in two years of ownership), and I can see them up close but they are not horrible.
 
I'll be leasing this car, and if for some unfortunate reason I have to give it back, I know they will just shred your bank account for unavoidable highway dings and random scratches.

And if I do (hopefully) keep this car for ten+ years, I would like the clear coat and the paint to last and be durable.

If you plan on keeping the car, don't lease. With the values of used 4Runners like they are, it makes no sense to lease at all.

My TE is black, and yes, its hard to keep clean. I've got a clear bra on mine. No rock chips in 12k miles. Mag grey would be my pick, followed by black all of the other colors would be a distant 3rd.
 
I had a black '09 Tacoma which I just traded for a '15 4Runner. I found the Tacoma to have a very "soft" clear coat that would scratch very very easily. After a few years I found that the paint had lost most of it's shine and looked dull all the time.
Knowing all this from the Tacoma, when I bought my 4Runner I bought Mag Grey, hoping the colour wouldn't show scratches as much, and went with the paint protection film (which I do with all me vehicles with great success). I also did the paint appearance protection, which is really just a heavy duty waxing but it comes with a warranty against paint damage and fading from acid rain, bird droppings, age, etc. I'm trying to avoid the paint issues I had with the Tacoma by preventing them from even starting on my 4Runner.

I only have 7500kms on the 4Runner, but so far so good!
 
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So let me get this straight, you are going to lease this and then you plan on buying it out afterwards? Why the hell would you ever do that? You have to put a huge down payment down then you'll have a car payment for 8+ years. If you can't afford a new one, purchase a used one.
 
I had a black '09 Tacoma which I just traded for a '15 4Runner. I found the Tacoma to have a very "soft" clear coat that would scratch very very easily. After a few years I found that the paint had lost most of it's shine and looked dull all the time.
Knowing all this from the Tacoma, when I bought my 4Runner I bought Mag Grey, hoping the colour wouldn't show scratches as much, and went with the paint protection film (which I do with all me vehicles with great success). I also did the paint appearance protection, which is really just a heavy duty waxing but it comes with a warranty against paint damage and fading from acid rain, bird droppings, age, etc. I'm trying to avoid the paint issues I had with the Tacoma by preventing them from even starting on my 4Runner.

I only have 7500kms on the 4Runner, but so far so good!

You may want to look into how to properly polish/buff the paint with a DA polisher. Here's a picture of the test spot I did before doing my 2009 Camry after the paint had gotten pretty faded/oxidized.

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You can see the difference in the reflection between the left and right sides of the trunk there. That was when I first bought the car, and it had been through a lot of neglect. After polishing the whole car basically looks new again.

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It needed a lot of work to get the paint back into good shape. Now I just try to wash it every few weeks, wax it every couple of months, and then polish it maybe once a year to take out any swirl marks, paint impurities/contamination, and oxidization that has accumulated.

I am not sure if the white on my 2009 Camry is the same as a 4Runner, but it is definitely a very soft paint. This means it picks up impurities very easily, and they do not come out just by washing. Claybarring is the answer to that, and if it is real bad then polishing does the trick. Here is a picture from the original detailing that shows how much impurities are gunked up in the paint on the left, and the paint on the right has been claybarred which removed the majority of it. Polishing was required to bring the shine back though, so keep in mind that claybarring can scuff the paint and polishing may be needed. Also, this is on the lower part of the car below the doors, so it tends to see more dirt and grime from the road which is why it is so bad.

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I'm 100% positive that your Tacoma "looking dull" is a similar type of situation, where the paint had just become oxidized and needed a little love with a DA. With a little work it could have been brought back to like-new condition I'm sure.

I think a polisher costs ~$100-150'ish (I forget exact costs, been a while since I bought, but I have a Porter Cable DA), and then some pads are going to run about $30-50 depending on how many you get (I like to have two of each, and recommend Uber pads but there are many out there that work fine), and some polishing compound (I love Meguiar's Ultimate Compound, costs about $10). I usually apply wax by hand, because wax tends to get soaked up in the polishing pad and a lot goes wasted as a result. I use carnuba wax for dark paint, and then synthetic glazes for light colors. There is a lot of info out there on how this is done, but I just thought I'd give a little info on it for anyone who is interested.

Sorry I don't have a 4Runner yet, looking to buy one this month or next, and I'm just doing some research on paint durability before purchasing (because obviously I'm a little into detailing vehicles :whistle:). I really love the Nautical Blue, but I am a little concerned with the reports of how easily damaged the paint is. I might stick with white just because it is easier to keep looking good in the long run, and then any paint matching on down the road is a lot easier to do as well.
 
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