sharp4runr
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Falls said:
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Have you seen Alexjet's or Luxury's Signatures!
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00328
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I have an '05 LTD with Xreas and have been following most of the threads about lifts because I want to do the same in the very near future.
Do all spacer lifts whether Revtek, Daystar or Cornfed cause the rear to stiffen up? I guess it depends on how noticeable it is. Seems like a lot of people have done this mod, but not all report this problem.
I wonder if some spacers are more prone to stiffing up the rear than others.
I really want to do a lift, but don't want to change the ride characteristics. Maybe that's not possible?
Do all spacer lifts whether Revtek, Daystar or Cornfed cause the rear to stiffen up? I guess it depends on how noticeable it is. Seems like a lot of people have done this mod, but not all report this problem.
I wonder if some spacers are more prone to stiffing up the rear than others.
I really want to do a lift, but don't want to change the ride characteristics. Maybe that's not possible?
Good Times
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00328 said:
in general all spacer lifts will have the same characteristics which tend to stiffen up over time. it all depends on the user's personal preference on what is truly stiff or not.
Good luck
Sac State
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Revtek and Daystar use resin spacer material. Cornfed uses billet aluminum. With the resin based spacers, your lift will settle more over time. You may even have to replace a resin spacer due to compression.
With the Revtek lift you use the spacers and keep the XREAS stock. Some companies sell the Revtek lift w/o the rear shocks included. ie. cheaper price.
If you go with Coil overs up front and spacers in the back, smoother ride, then XREAS will be immobilized.
For mods check out some west-coast online Toy dealers who specialize in Japan only Surf/4Runner parts. There are tons to be found. 4Runner is also known as the Prado in Australia, lots of stuff that direction.
I like the low numbers of 4Runner's sold. It is a close knit following of a great vehicle.
The new FJ will steal even more thunder.
With the Revtek lift you use the spacers and keep the XREAS stock. Some companies sell the Revtek lift w/o the rear shocks included. ie. cheaper price.
If you go with Coil overs up front and spacers in the back, smoother ride, then XREAS will be immobilized.
For mods check out some west-coast online Toy dealers who specialize in Japan only Surf/4Runner parts. There are tons to be found. 4Runner is also known as the Prado in Australia, lots of stuff that direction.
I like the low numbers of 4Runner's sold. It is a close knit following of a great vehicle.
The new FJ will steal even more thunder.
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00328
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You would think that if there was a better lift out there whether U.S., Japan, or Australia someone on this board would have not only found it, but would have it installed by now.
I keep waiting for the "perfect" lift, but I just get the feeling it aint gonna happen. I'm gettin tired of waiting.
I don't have a problem trashing the Xreas and going with coil-overs, but it seems most just make them for the front-end and then you still have to figure out something for the rear.
I keep waiting for the "perfect" lift, but I just get the feeling it aint gonna happen. I'm gettin tired of waiting.
I don't have a problem trashing the Xreas and going with coil-overs, but it seems most just make them for the front-end and then you still have to figure out something for the rear.
*wishlist*
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this is one of my concerns regarding the spacer lifts. but i thought that since no one has really complained about it, that it shouldn't be much of a big deal. i understand that there are tradeoffs between certain setups. i find myself changing my mind almost daily about which to lift to buy because of some of these tradeoffs (mainly daystar/cornfed), which even to me is ridiculous because they are almost identical. i like the ride of the xreas-equipped 4runner and want to keep it while gaining some ground clearance, which i'll surely have no matter which lift i get (duhhh : ). alexjet or anyone else that can answer, does it really completely extend when you go over every little bump? if so, that plain sucks. i might just wait a bit longer to do my lift. i hope this idea of yours fixes the problem. otherwise, what else can i do but live with it.
: ). alexjet or anyone else that can answer, does it really completely extend when you go over every little bump? if so, that plain sucks. i might just wait a bit longer to do my lift. i hope this idea of yours fixes the problem. otherwise, what else can i do but live with it.
Bluto
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AlexJet,
How many miles on your 4Runner and how many miles with the lift?
I only have 13,500, about 3000 with the lift. I have no issues with how the rear feels.
I don't expect the stock system to last much past 70k with spacers (or even less). If you operate shocks/struts out of their designed range (higher or lower), they won't last as long.
How many miles on your 4Runner and how many miles with the lift?
I only have 13,500, about 3000 with the lift. I have no issues with how the rear feels.
I don't expect the stock system to last much past 70k with spacers (or even less). If you operate shocks/struts out of their designed range (higher or lower), they won't last as long.
AlexJet
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*wishlist* said:this is one of my concerns regarding the spacer lifts. but i thought that since no one has really complained about it, that it shouldn't be much of a big deal. i understand that there are tradeoffs between certain setups. i find myself changing my mind almost daily about which to lift to buy because of some of these tradeoffs (mainly daystar/cornfed), which even to me is ridiculous because they are almost identical. i like the ride of the xreas-equipped 4runner and want to keep it while gaining some ground clearance, which i'll surely have no matter which lift i get (duhhh
"Little bumps" are filling the same; the question is for big ones. Due to the fact that shock is limited in length there may an issue in stretching or high bumps. But as I wrote before I might have a solution. I'm working on it and if it going to work, I'll let you know.
AlexJet said:
For what it is worth, I had a similiar problem on my old Rover Disco after I put the OME springs on it and did not change the shocks out. When I finally did get around to buying the OME shocks this feeling went away. But.....I dont think it had anything to do with topping out the shock....just operating it out of its normal range. Koz is right about the progressive nature in a shock, the more it is compressed or extended the more the piston in the shock compresses the fluid, thus being stiffer. I hope this makes sense, but the final answer to your question is that the only way to make this disappear is to use shocks that are designed for the operating range or make a spacer (which you are working on :happy bda .
00328
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The shock operating out of it's normal range sounds exactly the reason for the stiffness.
You would think that the lift manuf would realize this and offer a shock bracket of some sort to compensate for this. Probably very easy for them to fab something up and include it with the lift kit.
I seem to remember someone making a shock relocation bracket, but it was of inferior quality. NE maybe?
You would think that the lift manuf would realize this and offer a shock bracket of some sort to compensate for this. Probably very easy for them to fab something up and include it with the lift kit.
I seem to remember someone making a shock relocation bracket, but it was of inferior quality. NE maybe?
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