Daystar PROBLEMS? 2.5/1.5

[CJ3Flyr]

Think of it like this: The suspension can go up & down 'X' amount based on top-out and bottom-out, mechanical, limits of travel. (To change the limits you have change shocks and do other stuff.) You can do almost anything with springs and the 'X' doesn't change much*. (This includes spacing the springs or even changing them.) What you do change is the allocation, how much of that travel is available for compression and how much is available for extension.

Thanks! I assume it's because it's 11 PM or something that I must be losing my mind.
Here are the conclusions I draw:
AS FAR AS SUSPENSION ARTICULATION IS CONCERNED... Below is about true right-to-left articulation. Articulation being a combo of 'travel' and the vehicles inherent right to left connection. The answer below is about running one wheel up on a big rock. You can extrapolate answers about travel knowing that's angle I was approaching it from. I was a little unsure of what you were asking, sorry...

Front: LESS downward travel, equal amount of upward travel With stock shocks and any top-spacer it will extend downward slightly further. Upward travel will be the same (the bumpstop on the LCA is the limiting factor still) BUT the articulation may be slightly less due to the extra preload on the spring as it compresses. As the compressing gets near the stop the spring will stiffen more resisting the last bit of compression. This in conjunction with the front swaybar will likely lift the other side rather than flex to full potential.
Rear: LESS downward travel, equal upward travel Assuming stock length shocks it depends... What it comes down to is will the vehicle bottom out on the compressing side or lift the opposite wheel first? The higher preload on the spring makes the rear stiffer as it compresses and more likely to lift the other side rather than compress to the stop.

BUT it is REALLY the same articulation as without a lift because you start with more ground clearance. Close enough The gain in clearance will more than offset a minuscule loss of articulation with a 2.5/1.5. Just do it.

Is everything I have said here correct? Just do it:thumb3:

Now if the question is based on a level road at 20 mph and going over a slight jump then you're correct, almost. The compression travel will be increased slightly as the vehicle is starting out with more compression travel available (ie sitting higher).




*-Installation of a top-spacer on the front suspension does increase the 'droop' that's available a little bit.
:cheers:

 

[Mike07SE]

No issues with mine with my 265/70-17 BFG A/T's. Take it to Green Ridge state park often with no issues (more a walk in the park to some), and I took it out to Uwharrie State Forest over the summer and did quite well. Of course once you start with them you'll want to upgrade to more.

 

[BLK_LBL]

Think of it like this: The suspension can go up & down 'X' amount based on top-out and bottom-out, mechanical, limits of travel. (To change the limits you have change shocks and do other stuff.) You can do almost anything with springs and the 'X' doesn't change much*. (This includes spacing the springs or even changing them.) What you do change is the allocation, how much of that travel is available for compression and how much is available for extension.





Now if the question is based on a level road at 20 mph and going over a slight jump then you're correct, almost. The compression travel will be increased slightly as the vehicle is starting out with more compression travel available (ie sitting higher).




*-Installation of a top-spacer on the front suspension does increase the 'droop' that's available a little bit.
:cheers:

This is correct. the new daystar kits are just a topout spacer. you're basically just mounting the spring/strut assembly lower on the vehicle in regards to the frame. wheel travel is affected by the limits of the shock absorber. the front suspension is capable of much more "droop" than what the front shocks limit it to.. install this kit yourself and you will see what I mean.

I have a daystar ez install kit on my truck, I put it on myself. it doesnt affect suspension dynamics much at all. and if you install it yourself, you will get a very good idea of how the suspension works, and how this just "spaces" everything.

 

[imdav2u]

Has anyone just installed the 1.25" lift from Daystar just to level the truck?

 

[chaz]

in my opinion, & with all do respect, if your this worried about how a spacer lift affects ride/performance, & say you do "intense" offroading, do yourself a favor & get the OME kit for around 700, it will be well worth it. on a side note, intense offroading is more in line with blairb 's setup, not a stock ride with only spacers & no other mods (tires,sliders, shocks,belly armour,etc.) but for "decent" offroading, spacers will good enough.

 

[Joshhauerwas]

Need help before I purchase the 2.5 daystar

Is it ok to just buy the 2.5 daystar for the front if my 2004 toyota 4runner? It's too low in the front and I just wanna raise the front up instead of buying the whole kit.. I like when it sits slightly higher in the front anyway