Dealer won't sell me an 04 with bad X-REAS system

windytrip

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Hi, I'm new to the forum, and I'm looking for my first T4R. I found one I want that was taken in trade by another brand dealer. The truck is in fantastic shape, clean, perfect body, and low miles. I know the X-REAS system has been discussed a million times before, but I thought this story was worth telling...

When I test drove it Saturday, it was great, except there was a grinding noise when you turn the wheel to full lock, and it was super bouncy. So I arranged to come back down today to take it in to a nearby Toyota dealer for a checkup. It's a pain, since it's a1.5 hr drive each way and $15 in tolls round trip, but better safe than sorry.

So anyway, the Toyota shop confirms the car is perfect, except the X-REAS has been opened, tapered with, somehow damaged. They quote $1500 in parts and 12 hours of labor to fix it.

I think great, I'll get a good deal and an excuse to upgrade the suspension right away.... When I got back to the dealer I gave them the Toyota dealers quote and everything.

Nope. The dealer won't sell me the car in that condition at all. They said they would look into if they can fix it cheaper, and if they can, they would still consider selling it. But if it's going to cost 3k to fix it, they will need to cut their losses and sell it wholesale for auction.

When I asked if I could just buy it in this condition they said they would need tip ask their lawyer, but doubted it.

So now I'm pissed I even brought it in. I wouldn't have had much to bargain with, but maybe I could have gotten the price down a little and just gone and fixed the shocks myself.

My wife was wondering if the dealers techs might have disconnected the X-REAS accidentally when giving the truck an alignment. That's doesn't seem likely, but I checked the service records the truck, and it's had no major work done it all.

I know their service manager is reading forums to learn about this problem, so he might see this post, but I think that's fine.

It's a good truck other than this problem. I think it's crazy this system has no way to be topped off and re-bled like a brake system. :ybrick:
 
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Yeah, they seemed really nervous about doing that, but I'm going to give it a shot and see what they say. I haven't read up on the upgrade options, so I'll do that before I talk to them.

They can remove the strut portions of the XREAS system and install aftermarket shocks intended for a Non-XREAS 4Runner with no issues. The Technicians don't even have to worry much about fluid pressure from the sound of things.

The difference between a XREAS and Non-XREAS system is mainly the Struts, Hydraulic Dampener, and lines. Everything else is the same.
 
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Sounds like a good dealer. I had a dealer try to sell me an 03 with bald tires,hole in the radiator, leaking XREAS,and leaking front seals. Priced at $10,000 and 191,000 miles. They wouldn't drop the price! They said nothing was wrong with anything. Great car. Go figure.
 
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Sounds like a good dealer. I had a dealer try to sell me an 03 with bald tires,hole in the radiator, leaking XREAS,and leaking front seals. Priced at $10,000 and 191,000 miles. They wouldn't drop the price! They said nothing was wrong with anything. Great car. Go figure.

Unfortunately car dealerships and salesmen are one step above parking enforcement when it comes to societal scum (imo of course). I've heard many leagues of dealer stories more whack than that.

They tend to think all their cars are perfect; that draws the highest buck. If I'm incredibly truck-savvy, and reasonably mechanically inclined, dealers aren't gonna want to do business with me.

I keep my car purchases to the local classifieds, which are luckily awesome in Utah.
 
Sounds like a good dealer. I had a dealer try to sell me an 03 with bald tires,hole in the radiator, leaking XREAS,and leaking front seals. Priced at $10,000 and 191,000 miles. They wouldn't drop the price! They said nothing was wrong with anything. Great car. Go figure.

I agree. They are doing the right thing. If a car is unsafe a dealer should not sell it. It's not worth it for them in the long run if something happens.
 
I'm not upset at the dealer at all, I think they are doing what they need to do, it's just a frustrating situation. They are supposed to call Toyota today too see what else can be done, and I'll propose they put new shocks on it.

littlehandegan, I was thinking of trying to follow the truck through auction but didn't know how to do that. It's there a system for tracking the car by vin?
 
Yeah, they are really great upstanding citizens. They won't sell you a broken car, but they will take it to an auction and dump it on some other poor unsuspecting buyer. They are not doing you a favor by not selling it to you. They know if they sell it to you they will have to drop the price. If they take it to auction, they won't lose as much. They are scum just like the rest. They only care about their bottom line.
 
In case anyone is wondering, the dealer ended up having an independent shop replace the socks with new X-REAS shocks.

I wanted them to put the Bilsteins on, but they wouldn't really deal with me until after the work was done, so I didn't have much say. It cost them something like $1500.

I ended up buying the truck anyway, the price was still reasonable considering it only has 56k miles and a brand new suspension.

I still have no idea what the X-REAS installation is like, since there is no way to bleed the system, how do you install it in the first place? And when it starts leading, why can't it be topped up the same way it was installed the first time?

Oh well, let the modding begin. (Maybe when it warms up a bit)
 
In case anyone is wondering, the dealer ended up having an independent shop replace the socks with new X-REAS shocks.

I wanted them to put the Bilsteins on, but they wouldn't really deal with me until after the work was done, so I didn't have much say. It cost them something like $1500.

I ended up buying the truck anyway, the price was still reasonable considering it only has 56k miles and a brand new suspension.

I still have no idea what the X-REAS installation is like, since there is no way to bleed the system, how do you install it in the first place? And when it starts leading, why can't it be topped up the same way it was installed the first time?

Oh well, let the modding begin. (Maybe when it warms up a bit)

I hope the shop installed it correctly. But on a separate note install a spacer lift and be happy fir a while.
 

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