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JP4RNR said:


I wonder if SUVs will become a bigger status symbol in some circles...look at me, I can afford $5 gas in my 10MPG Hummer...or something like that.

I ran a vehicle cost comparison report of my collection which includes an aging, but reliable, sports car and several motorcycles. Due to the longevity of the tires and the absolutely minimal maintenance requirements, the 4Runner is STILL the least expensive vehicle to drive in my fleet (although it's quickly losing that distinction).
 
Yes, I think you're correct about the status symbol thing. I can afford $5/gal gas (or higher) and still drive my gas hog SUV. Especially so with those BMW and Land Rover SUV owners, LOL.

Personally, I like the idea of fewer SUVs on the roads because I'll get a clearer view in traffic when I'm in mine!
 
Even Steven said:
Yes, I think you're correct about the status symbol thing. I can afford $5/gal gas (or higher) and still drive my gas hog SUV. Especially so with those BMW and Land Rover SUV owners, LOL.

Personally, I like the idea of fewer SUVs on the roads because I'll get a clearer view in traffic when I'm in mine!

You probably won't see as many 4Runners being utilized as grocery getters. There are a lot of soccer mom's driving 4Runners when really a highlander would be more appropriate.

While a highlander is classified as an SUV, it's small enough and gets good mileage and probably won't suffer to much as sales go.

Does the highlander still have a 4Cyl option?
 
JP4RNR said:
You probably won't see as many 4Runners being utilized as grocery getters. There are a lot of soccer mom's driving 4Runners when really a highlander would be more appropriate.

While a highlander is classified as an SUV, it's small enough and gets good mileage and probably won't suffer to much as sales go.

Does the highlander still have a 4Cyl option?

I don't know off hand if they have an optional 4 cylinder available, but they do have a hybrid version.

The funny thing with some of the midsize "crossover" type SUVs is that they are really not that much more economical on gas than a 4Runner. Go browse the Honda Pilot forums and you'll see owners complaining all the time that they expected better fuel economy out of their Pilots.
 
It will all shake out to the difference between those who bought a 4Runner/SUV because they need one vs those who bought one because it was the 'thing' to drive.

I downsized from a fullsize 4wd pick-up, when I no longer needed a plow or bed. I now have a utility trailer, when I may need to haul something that won't fit into the back of the 4runner, and a snowblower for the driveway, which isn't convienent to plow. I still need to haul my boat, or camper, so I will live with the higher gas prices (doesn't mean I like it, but the reality is I am not ready to give up those reasons for owning the SUV. I do let the 4Runner sit more often for everyday trips and take the wifes Accord.

If all you 'haul' with the SUV is the kids, then you may decide to rethink the need for it. It's all about need and choices we have to make to fill those needs.
 
Sales might go down a little.... but this is America.... if you want something you just work a bit harder and you will get it. I think only people that are going to hurt from this are the ones that live WAY outside of thier means. Don't get me wrong... I hate paying $4.11 a gallon.... but I love my runner too much, I've worked too hard to be driving something that wouldn't make me happy. Besides.... the money I might spend driving my runner is alot less than what somone might spend taking thier ford focus to the shop.


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I think the amount of SUV's will decrease alittle, but you'll start seeing more hi-end Luxury cars(the ones that can get a decent MPG)
 
Uneek said:
Not in the second gen, don't remember if the first did.

Current Highlander only comes in V6...the previous version did come with I4 or V6...the I4 was from the Camry.
 
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seh750 said:
I wonder if SUVs will become a bigger status symbol in some circles...look at me, I can afford $5 gas in my 10MPG Hummer...or something like that.

I ran a vehicle cost comparison report of my collection which includes an aging, but reliable, sports car and several motorcycles. Due to the longevity of the tires and the absolutely minimal maintenance requirements, the 4Runner is STILL the least expensive vehicle to drive in my fleet (although it's quickly losing that distinction).
Here in socal I have begun to notice a certain segment of the population who give you a dirty look at the gas pumps if you have an SUV. Almost as if they are blaming us for causing global warming or using more gas than their car.
 
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drmorbius said:
Here in socal I have begun to notice a certain segment of the population who give you a dirty look at the gas pumps if you have an SUV. Almost as if they are blaming us for causing global warming or using more gas than their car.

My neighbor to my left drives a Hummer H2 for his daily driver. He lives 3 miles from his job. I have another neighbor across the street who drives a Civic and lives 45 miles from his job.

So who uses more gas to get to and from work?
 
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Even Steven said:
My neighbor to my left drives a Hummer H2 for his daily driver. He lives 3 miles from his job. I have another neighbor across the street who drives a Civic and lives 45 miles from his job.

So who uses more gas to get to and from work?


Per mile driven the Hummer is still using more gas (I'm sure he still puts the miles on it driving anywhere else) for even that little of a commute but I'm the short commute group too since I only do 8 miles each way and can afford to keep my nearly paid off 4Runner even if gas goes over $5.
 
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RonMAIDEN said:
Per mile driven the Hummer is still using more gas (I'm sure he still puts the miles on it driving anywhere else) for even that little of a commute but I'm the short commute group too since I only do 8 miles each way and can afford to keep my nearly paid off 4Runner even if gas goes over $5.

Per mile driven doesn't matter when the Hummer is traveling 30 miles per week and the Civic is travelling 450 miles per week. The Civic driver shouldn't complain about the Hummer driver when his Civic is using more of our precious resources (gasoline) than his neighbor with a Hummer.

No matter how you cut it, the Civic is using far more gas in this case.
 
Do you really think that Hummer is just being driven 30 miles a week plus once gas prices really get high the Civic might be worth more money than the Hummer which are losing their resale value by the day.

Plus that's just one rare case since I know alot of people around here that are suffering using an H2 or even an H3 as their main vehicle.
 
Are we seriously arguing that the civic uses more gas because of the specific situation of your neighbors?

Your neighbors are 2 of 300 Million Americans, and I have serious doubts that they are the only Hummer and Civic owners in the continental United States.
 
If you bought a Hummer you are suffering before you even get to the topic of gas. ;):
 
simple said:
Are we seriously arguing that the civic uses more gas because of the specific situation of your neighbors?

Your neighbors are 2 of 300 Million Americans, and I have serious doubts that they are the only Hummer and Civic owners in the continental United States.

Yes and naturally guess who started that idiot thought.........
 
RonMAIDEN said:
Do you really think that Hummer is just being driven 30 miles a week plus once gas prices really get high the Civic might be worth more money than the Hummer which are losing their resale value by the day.

Plus that's just one rare case since I know alot of people around here that are suffering using an H2 or even an H3 as their main vehicle.

No, of course it is being driven more than 30 miles per week. He puts about 3,000 miles per year on it, so he averages almost 60 miles per week. Of course the Civic driver drives his more than just to and from work also, so he still uses more gas.
 
simple said:
Are we seriously arguing that the civic uses more gas because of the specific situation of your neighbors?

Your neighbors are 2 of 300 Million Americans, and I have serious doubts that they are the only Hummer and Civic owners in the continental United States.

You're missing the point. Sure, it's a specific example, but it happens all the time with the self-righteous econocar drivers. The same thing applies to the Corolla driver with the long commute and the 4Runner driver who lives a few miles from work. As much as an econocar driver loves to ***** and moan about SUV drivers using up all gas and contributing to higher gas prices (through supply and demand), the ironic thing is that people who live far from work can easily use MORE gas with their economy car than someone who owns a "gas guzzling" SUV.

My Hummer driving neighbord told me that he occasionally gets shit from other motorists (almost always in cars no bigger than a Civic) for driving a vehicle that they view as nothing but a waste of resources. Isn't it ironic that the majority of those same drivers who ***** and moan about his Hummer are actually using MORE gas than him every week?
 

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