Did I pass up on a "unicorn"?

toyotaspeed90

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So yesterday we went to look at a 3rd gen - for a couple reasons...

The dealer has had it a long time and as such I figured they would negotiate
Manual transmission
170k original miles

In fair warning - it has a rebuilt title from a front end accident, I knew that.

Get there and the outside is quite clean aside from some of the front end not aligning right lights/body wise - the supports looked good, just not great work and I could fix it.

The interior was another realm. Carpet was an odd almost purple color. Front leather seats were torn. Missing the center console armrest cover entirely. Random little issues - climate control knows MIA, seat belt trim missing, fake wood trim horrendously faded.

Was at a lot jammed packed so tight I couldn't even open the passenger doors to look.

Price was $7k. He said lowest was $6k. I offered $5k cash, contingent on a good test drive. He accepted.

I noticed the power steering pump was whining and when checked was low. Oh well, no biggie.

Buckled up and instantly another minor issue - dash isn't indicating the belt is locked. Again, whatever - it's a simple connection.

All interior otherwise worked - windows, sunroof, climate, AC, rear climate etc.

On the test drive... driver blinker flashed fast... ok, a bulb or simple wiring.

Mild hill at 35mph, pop it in 4th, give it gas - and rpms begin to rise without acceleration. Ok, so clutch is slipping too.

At above 20mph the front left would begin to shake pretty bad. Could be a variety of things - warped rotor and bad caliper (though it didn't pull), bad TRE, unbalanced or flattened tire... but made me uneasy at 40mph let alone the 100+ mile freeway drive home.

I passed due to minor and a couple "bigger" issues.

Now what i think made it stand out a tad (and I didn't test) was that it was both a manual and had a factory rear locker.

I've found several manual 3rd gens, but no others with a locker....

Is this a rare combo?
 
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Its a rare combo and pretty low miles but with a rebuilt title and the problems that you stated I would not go above 3k. I have a 2000 5speed with locker and 260k and have been offered 6k but passed, for now. They are out there so just keep looking. Also IMO find a nice 5speed then put a ARB in the rear and you will be way ahead.
 
Unfortunately around here that isn't a lot.

There's another (98) with rebuilt title, manual by, no locker, 145k miles - that people are clamoring to get with a list price of $7k.

There's a few further away in the same price range (again, no lockers) but have over 250k miles.
 
The best advice I can give anyone who is looking for a new car, is to not limit your search to near by area's. Be willing to drive many hours away for something you want and is a good deal. whats a few hours drive when Its something you will keep and use for many years to come.

Sounds like you did the right thing for sure. 5-speed is nice but I would never give up other things for it. The auto is still a very good transmission.
 
Rare combo, but by no means a unicorn. Especially given that adding a locker isn't a crazy hard addition.

Good to run from that one based on your description. You most likely would have been chasing demons all over the place with that while spending a bunch of money doing so.
 
You did the right thing walking away. That car sounds like it had way too many issues minor or major, to be commanding a price of $5k. I get the allure of a manual, but the automatic transmission in the 3rd gen is pretty bulletproof with proper maintenance and use.

People think there should be a premium placed on a manual copy of the 3rd gen and it really isn’t anything special. I just saw an ad in LA Craigslist for a 2001 4Runner with a manual listed for $15k. It had 135k miles, looked very clean from the pics. Beautiful car, but with a crackpipe price.
 
i found that combo but it was in pieces and i'm still putting it back together. I wouldn't have paid that much for it so i feel like you did the right thing
 
Now what i think made it stand out a tad (and I didn't test) was that it was both a manual and had a factory rear locker.(quote)

With the way truck sounds locker wasn't going to work.
You did the right thing with passing on it.

I searched for 16 months looked at many vehicles, dealer lots always a ripoff.
CL vehicles private owner carry cash and a gun you'll get a better deal.
Drove 5 hr one way bought clean 01 Ltd 198k mi $3450, expand your search area.
 
$5k is way too much for that laundry list, although as mentioned several times already, it's a rare combo. 8 years ago, after months of looking around, I found that combo and jumped on it. It's been a great rig and I have no plans to get rid of it.
 
I'm not, at all, worried about minot issues. I can do just about anything to a car.

We don't want an AT. We have an 01 LX470 and checks all the "nice" marks.

Have considered buying an AT and converting to manual, or finding a 2md gen and 3.4 swapping.

Have had a couple toyotas in the past with "non functioning" lockers- usually is just a switch or a motor that's out. In our old 93 80 series I actually found the problem to be the 4L indicator switch in the transfer case was the problem - and instead of buying an expensive/hard to find part, I realized it looked almost identical to an MR2 reverse switch - and was a $15 fix. Throwing an ARB in is always an option, but not generally an inexpensive one.

I am looking outside of our area, within reason. We have a 7mo puppy and a 4mo newborn, among other things that take all of our time.


This was the 98 we looked at:
★1998 TOYOTA 4RUNNER●SR5 V6 4X4 5 SPEED MANUAL ●LOW 165k MILES

https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ctd/d/1998-toyota-4runnersr5-v6-4x4/6691791637.html

1998 TOYOTA 4RUNNER LIMITED 3.4 V6 4X4 5 SPEED MANUAL TRANSMISSION VERY NICE 5-DOOR SUV WITH LOW 165,788 MILES Runs And Drives Very Good! This Vehicle Is In Excellent Condition! Extra clean Inside And Outside! ●Stock #: 782 ●Price: Special $6,995 ●M ...
 
Definitely pass on that. Tons of better deals out there
I just got a one owner 2001 SR5 with the leather package (sr5 premium) with 118,000. Timing belt done with water pump, oil changes done every 4000, new tires and front breaks and rotors, 4x4, new fuel filter, plus and wires, battery, a/f sensor, trans fluid changed two times, crank sensors. All work done at dealership and have all paper work. The woman was late 60s. Garage crept and not a scratch on it. Bad thing is a week a broke off the antenna at the car wash. She only did 3500 miles a year last 10 or so.
All for $2700 cash. Love this damn truck!!!!
 
Definitely pass on that. Tons of better deals out there
I just got a one owner 2001 SR5 with the leather package (sr5 premium) with 118,000. Timing belt done with water pump, oil changes done every 4000, new tires and front breaks and rotors, 4x4, new fuel filter, plus and wires, battery, a/f sensor, trans fluid changed two times, crank sensors. All work done at dealership and have all paper work. The woman was late 60s. Garage crept and not a scratch on it. Bad thing is a week a broke off the antenna at the car wash. She only did 3500 miles a year last 10 or so.
All for $2700 cash. Love this damn truck!!!!

Quick question. Does the SR5 premium have wood grain trim or does it just have leather?

Been contemplating building mine with leather, but wanted to bring it close to Toyota specs as possible.
 
Quick question. Does the SR5 premium have wood grain trim or does it just have leather?

Been contemplating building mine with leather, but wanted to bring it close to Toyota specs as possible.
Yes wood trim

LA-leather pkg $1250.00
Leather sport seats and steering wheel. Door trim. 4way ash head rest.
Large painted over fenders $230
16” Aluminum wheels. Front disk break and 4.100 diff $840
Upgrade value pkg. per windows and keyless entry with back window remote. Ac. Tonneau cover. Perm am/fm cass with 6 speakers. Per antenna. Carpet Matt’s $2180.00
Vip plus alarm upgrade $249.00
Color keyed running boards $ 649.00
Convince pkg-rear wind deflector. Towing receiver-roof rack and cargo mart $810
Sticker price on this thing was $35,420.00 in 2001. I work at a Toyota dealer and an 2018 sr5 premium sticker is 38,000 to 39,000 again sticker.
Not much of an increase over 17 years. NUTS
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"Is this a rare combo?"

NO,, they are out there people just hang on to them. When I was looking, I thought about getting another 3rd gen, seen more than I thought would be out there.
If thats what you want, keep looking, you will,,,, find the perfect one.
 

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