Discussion for those that wrench on other people's rigs

I used to be nice. Wrench on everyone's cars from daily driver momVan's, to offroad rigs to high horsepower turbos.

I would tune cars for free and that's risking the motor!!

Not anymore. I barely will do work for even payment. Not enough free time. 90% of the time I would be fixing other rigs when mine had like 10 things that needs done.

So now I just work on my family, house and own shit.
 
Sounds like we were all in the same boat with cheap whining customers at one point or another.
Where I’m at with it now, business is business and if you want me to do something for you with you just standing there watching, or just dropping off your car. your getting charged full price.
If you have no knowledge but willing to lend a hand, a discount is in order.
If you just need me to give you a hand and some insight than I’ll help you for some beers and conversation. I did this just recently with A A Ron idk his screen name but Timmy knows who I speak of.
Not to say that I haven’t helped others completely for free like [MENTION=94292]Patriot12[/MENTION]. He posted he needed help and was willing to drive 100+ miles to my garage. I of course assessed the situation and Paul seemed cool so we did his kdss lift and to this day we still keep in touch.
And this is also how I meet [MENTION=120071]mtbtim[/MENTION]
And on the other hand both Tim, Sean and i have been used like a dirty dish rag by the same person on the same job BUT
The good outweighs the bad and we live to wrench another day.

In my brief time in NorCal, I had the distinct pleasure of meeting [MENTION=120071]mtbtim[/MENTION], [MENTION=144752]MarkamisPrime[/MENTION], and [MENTION=102606]infamousRNR[/MENTION] who were extremely gracious with their time to help me out back in 2016. Meeting them helped lessen the sting of being in a new place as a military student as well. I gained a ton of knowledge from their multiple videos and was the reason I got into a 3rd gen in the first place. With this knowledge, I am able to help others in my new duty station with similar issues I ran into. I believe this is what the forum is for; to help like minded enthusiasts and build that sense of community. Tim already serves his community in his day job, it is rare to see someone like him open up his garage and life during his off-hours as well. Thank you Mark, Tim, and Sean for being so cool at what you do for this T4R world. I will have to visit you guys soon. Will always have great memories of my time there with you and you can rest assured I will pay it forward to the next generation of enthusiasts!
 
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p.s. Charlie, you should make our next party. I'll put you up for a night at my place if you make the drive.
I'm not so sure my wife would be happy with me going up there on her birthday! :behindsofa:

I *will* find a time to make it back up there! Maybe even bring the other Toyota, who knows...

-Charlie
 
I'm a little late but here goes. Growing up my dad was a mechanic and I've had a wrench in my hand since before I could walk. Being blessed with good common sense and an engineer's brain (maybe a little dose of OCD thrown in for good measure) I've always had a hard time paying for something that I'm fully capable of doing. That extends to the circle of people around me (friends/neighbors/girlfriends/girlfriends friends/etc.) My take is that I try and make it a learning experience. Let's do it together, I'll show you how to do it right, we'll have fun, drink a few beers, then compare busted knuckles afterwards. Then next time maybe they'll pay it forward and teach someone else when they feel that they have the skills. That's been a fairly successful approach thus far. Sure, there's been a few folks that want me to just do it for them and (college girlfriends excluded) I've just directed them to a reputable mechanic. If they aren't interested in learning about their ride and what makes it run then I'm probably not the best person to be wrenching on their rig (my hourly rate is way too high). :)

There's also been a time or two where a simple repair has turned into a project that was either above my skillset or my toolset. But luckily those have been few and I'm never too shy to say "I don't have a friggin clue". Because I'm definitely not an expert by any means. Of course as I've gotten older many things that I used to do myself have now been "outsourced". ;) LOL.

Keep up the great work w/the YT channel. If it helps folks do their own thing, it's way worth it!
 
Tim, if you would have offered to do axle seals for 200 bucks I would have said hell yeah and would have given you a few cases of beer and an extra 50 dollar bill inside a pizza box.

I feel like I owe you as is for always answering my PMs and your GREAT videos with part numbers and FSM pages.
 
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I'm a little late but here goes. Growing up my dad was a mechanic and I've had a wrench in my hand since before I could walk. Being blessed with good common sense and an engineer's brain (maybe a little dose of OCD thrown in for good measure) I've always had a hard time paying for something that I'm fully capable of doing. That extends to the circle of people around me (friends/neighbors/girlfriends/girlfriends friends/etc.) My take is that I try and make it a learning experience. Let's do it together, I'll show you how to do it right, we'll have fun, drink a few beers, then compare busted knuckles afterwards. Then next time maybe they'll pay it forward and teach someone else when they feel that they have the skills. That's been a fairly successful approach thus far. Sure, there's been a few folks that want me to just do it for them and (college girlfriends excluded) I've just directed them to a reputable mechanic. If they aren't interested in learning about their ride and what makes it run then I'm probably not the best person to be wrenching on their rig (my hourly rate is way too high). :)

There's also been a time or two where a simple repair has turned into a project that was either above my skillset or my toolset. But luckily those have been few and I'm never too shy to say "I don't have a friggin clue". Because I'm definitely not an expert by any means. Of course as I've gotten older many things that I used to do myself have now been "outsourced". ;) LOL.

Keep up the great work w/the YT channel. If it helps folks do their own thing, it's way worth it!

I totally understand what you're talking about because I try to do the same thing when wrenching with people. They learn from me and I learn from them. When I was bike racing and running a team, I had a young guy on my team that I tried to teach how to build his own bike. I would put his bike together and he would be off in La La land talking about races coming up and not paying attention to what I was doing. I tried and tried to teach him but he never paid attention.

With the people who've I invited to my house to perform a job for, I always enjoy when they are willing to dive in and get dirty with me and show an eagerness to learn.
 
Tim, if you would have offered to do axle seals for 200 bucks I would have said hell yeah and would have given you a few cases of beer and an extra 50 dollar bill inside a pizza box.

I feel like I owe you as is for always answering my PMs and your GREAT videos with part numbers and FSM pages.

You've already paid Sean and I back plenty by taking the time to let us know you appreciate the videos we're making.
 

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