Disgusting!

[004Gunner]

Anyone else read this?

 

[E30RUNNER]

bas****s! makes me sick

 

[_JT_]

makes you wonder if prices would have gone higher if it wasnt dropped

 

[jharris2]

This article gives more detail on how the court arrived at its conclusion.

 

[TheBlueWave]

There are lots of reasons to be mad about this.

Don't support drilling in Alaska or other new wells in the U.S.

Don't ***** about gas prices.

And last, but not least, don't buy any Exxon products including the beloved Mobil 1.

I for one avoid Mobil gas stations and use Amsoil. Only becuase I can't stand the fact that they make so much money.

God, I can be a hater

 

[CannondaleMan]

There are lots of reasons to be mad about this.

Don't support drilling in Alaska or other new wells in the U.S.

So it OK for another country's ecosystemt to be POTENTIALLY destroyed, so long as it is not ours?

It is more environmentally conscious to dril for our own oil closer to our own nation so that transport costs and pollution is decreased by not having huge tankers spewing forth marine diesel into the air across half the world.

Originally posted by TheBlueWave Don't ***** about gas prices.

I don't, you pay what you pay - except you may be able to visit a station a block down the road and save a buck or two on a fill up.

Originally posted by TheBlueWave And last, but not least, don't buy any Exxon products including the beloved Mobil 1.

The only stations I avoid are Citgo since they are owned by Venezuela and Hugo Chavez is a Socialist who stomps on his own citizen's rights.

I'll buy Mobil 1 because it is a superior product and less expesive than other brands.

This could have happened to any company, and the company did what any other company in this nation (including your employer) would do - it tried to minimize its costs. As did its insurance company.

Originally posted by TheBlueWave Only becuase I can't stand the fact that they make so much money.

I always love this argument - so how much money is too much money for a company - any company, in any line of business - too much to make?

I would just like to know exactly where "too much" is.

 

[TheBlueWave]

So it OK for another country's ecosystemt to be POTENTIALLY destroyed, so long as it is not ours?

No, its not okay. But Americans seem to accept it, hence the hoop-la over this story.

It is more environmentally conscious to dril for our own oil closer to our own nation so that transport costs and pollution is decreased by not having huge tankers spewing forth marine diesel into the air across half the world.

Sure, but again, Americans are all about "my back yard" theory so that's how congress will vote, especially if the Dems get in office.

I don't, you pay what you pay - except you may be able to visit a station a block down the road and save a buck or two on a fill up.

I don't *****, either, but put a tape recorder around the water cooler if you don't believe me. People constantly ***** because everyone has a better way.

The only stations I avoid are Citgo since they are owned by Venezuela and Hugo Chavez is a Socialist who stomps on his own citizen's rights.

And the Saudis don't? How about Iran? C'mon, give us a better argument than that. Who has every dime in Saudi Arabia, our principal oil source? Why, the royal family of course! Everyone else lives in poverty.

I'll buy Mobil 1 because it is a superior product and less expesive than other brands.

The fact that its a superior product is debatable so let's not go that direction. People who complain about the spill and the costs paid out should not buy it. Just like complaining about the government when you don't vote. I buy Amsoil because its a relatively local company and I have had nothing but good luck with it.

This could have happened to any company, and the company did what any other company in this nation (including your employer) would do - it tried to minimize its costs. As did its insurance company.

I fully agree with you here. In a democracy, they did what they had to do. But what about the guy who called them "bas****s?" Care to rip that post apart?

I always love this argument - so how much money is too much money for a company - any company, in any line of business - too much to make?

Well, one has to admit that they love high prices and people driving SUVs. Basically, they love us 4runner folks!

I would just like to know exactly where "too much" is.

Hey, I just wish I was Exxon Mobil's CEO. Then I could buy whatever and whoever I wanted using my clout by itself. BTW, Trek is better

 

[004Gunner]

I was very disappointed in the fact that the largest oil spill in the history of the U.S. took nearly 20 years to get this far and this is the example that was made? I was hoping this settlement would put the fear of god into corporations in regard to environmental responsibilities. IMO they got off easy and personally I was hoping for a crippling blow. It's easy to see where the priorities lie, you just hope for that one time when something comes full circle. I won't hold my breath. . .

 

[TheBlueWave]

I was very disappointed in the fact that the largest oil spill in the history of the U.S. took nearly 20 years to get this far and this is the example that was made? I was hoping this settlement would put the fear of god into corporations in regard to environmental responsibilities. IMO they got off easy and personally I was hoping for a crippling blow. It's easy to see where the priorities lie, you just hope for that one time when something comes full circle. I won't hold my breath. . .

Do you get the feeling that maybe the judges are politically motivated? I mean, everyone is to some extent, but they aren't supposed to be. They should make unbiased decisions based on the law. I think they may have in this case, as the justification seems okay.
The 20 years thing is what bothers me. This should have been fixed back then, not re-visited in 2008.

 

[004Gunner]

JHarris- That was a good additonal piece of information but now that link says a subscription is required to view the full article.

I understand the logic behind the decision but now this case will be used as an example for any future cases. I do not think there should be a cut and dry formula for this type of settlement as the scope of the disaster (oil spills) was unique and hopefully remains so. And shouldn't the settlement be adjusted to reflect 500 mil back in the late 80's? What would that be equal to now?

 

[jharris2]

JHarris- That was a good additonal piece of information but now that link says a subscription is required to view the full article.

Bummer. You could read it yesterday....