Do I need OEM parts for complete rear brake makeover ?

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ranchdog

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On my 98 4Runner I need to replace a rear axel seal and I want to do a complete replacement of drum and brake shoes (and any other small parts that look bad)

I searched the forum and there is a lot of info on the Tundra brake upgrade but not a lot on rear brake info.

Is the OEM drums and shoes a must ?

If so is my local Toyota dealership going to be about the same price as our Toyota Parts Sponsors here ?

Thanks, Ranchdog
 
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If you want to drop over 500 for rear brakes do it!
Any parts store will have what you need for less.
The only rear brake upgrade i know of is going disk.
 
Rear brakes are doing basically nothing back there, less than a quarter of the stopping, any decent parts will work.

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ranchdog said:
On my 98 4Runner I need to replace a rear axel seal and I want to do a complete replacement of drum and brake shoes (and any other small parts that look bad)

I searched the forum and there is a lot of info on the Tundra brake upgrade but not a lot on rear brake info.

Is the OEM drums and shoes a must ?

If so is my local Toyota dealership going to be about the same price as our Toyota Parts Sponsors here ?

Thanks, Ranchdog
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The rear drums are massive on these trucks as it is, compare them to late model GM trucks or whatever. You have lots of stopping power in the rear, just make sure they are adjusted properly and you won't have any issues. Drums run Into problems with heat soaking, so if you aren't lugging heavy loads don't worry about it.

Just have the drums machines if they aren't out of spec (max diameter) it's cheap and provides a nice surface for your new shoes to bed in.

Also OEM is a plus but not nesssairy. Get some mid grade shoes from a parts store and use the money you save to replace the hardware (springs, clips, hold downs) which is cheap insurance.
 
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I don't think OEM for brake parts is necessary (rear seal stuff maybe different). I went Centric, yeah its an import but has very good quality. Have used that brand for rotors, pads and shoes on this truck and a couple other toyos. Luck. :cowboy:
 
Non OEM rear brake cylinders are known to leak very quickly. If replacing those go OEM. If it was me I would have the current drums turned for cheap and buy some OEM pads.
 
I used Raybestos drums and Bendix shoes from Rockauto. Two months in and they're good to go. No need to spend crazy money on the rears. I just did both rear axle seals as well so if you need any info, let me know.
 
I had a significant problem with overheating the drums and having massive dragging, or completely disengaged brakes from being too loosely adjusted. I went through 3 different shoes and finally bought oem shoes. That was the fix.

I think you can get away with mostly aftermarket parts (cylinders, drums, springs and auto adjusters), but I would absolutely pony up and buy oem shoes. Those aftermarket shoes had an incorrect radius with some flaring at the edges, and they would not run without dragging when adjusted correctly. Saving a few bucks initially was way less valuable than the time I spent trying to figure out the problem.
 
Just my experience but I've found that in the various cars I've owned, oem brake parts seemed to last noticeably longer compared to aftermarket and produced less brake dust. I'm sure others have had different experiences. I have gone with aftermarket brake parts in a pinch on other cars I've owned but they always seemed to wear out quicker. That being said, if funds are tight aftermarket will be fine as far as drums and pads.
 
I can tell you from experience that OEM shoes will fit EXACTLY and others are close but not made EXACTLY like the Toyota shoes. If you can afford them then use original parts. Also the adjusters are much heavier. Even the springs and hold down hardware are better quality.
 
I did my axle seals and brakes a few months ago. The OEM shoes are together more completely than some aftermarket. I've also had great luck with the longevity of OEM brake components.

That having been said I also had one of my OEM rotors crack through (freakish occurence I hope). I replaced them with Brembos. The toyota ones were $100 a piece, and I thought I'd chance it with the Brembos. They've only been on a week though.
 
What is the part number for the horse shoe clip and the e clip that you need to replace when you change the brake shoes?
 
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What is the part number for the horse shoe clip and the e clip that you need to replace when you change the brake shoes?
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You can buy these at just about any auto parts store, they're not factory specific, or at least they don't have to be. Ace hardware has the circular clips in SAE and metric.

If you buy a brake hardware kit these parts come in it

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