Do small mods void warranty? Trd skid plate, fogs, headlights, raptor lights etc?
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USStrongman
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In general no, but yes they can. If you have an electrical problem that is potentially traceable back to one of those components, they will not honor that portion of the warranty but could include ECU's and anything electrical. Most people void their warranty by putting over sized/weight tires/wheels and a lift on, which adds non factory spec stresses to engine, transfer case, transmission, driveshafts, differentials, suspension components. Big ticket items.
97BlackAckCL
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No, when I took my truck to the dealership service department most of the techs were drooling over my mods and how clean the truck looked. Funny enough they did my state inspection and passed it with a tint visor the first year and refused to inspect my truck the second year even though I argued that they passed it the year before. Not an issue if you don't have state inspections, but that's the only thing I ran into
Depends on the service rep. Some of those people don’t understand how cars work and generally have no interest in cars. These guys are the reason people hate dealers.
Whippersnapper02
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Raptor lights do because of the brah act.
Magnuson Moss Warranty-Federal Trade Commission Improvements Act | Federal Trade Commission
Magnuson Moss Warranty-Federal Trade Commission Improvements Act | Federal Trade Commission
Does this negate the full warranty. Or just some part of the warranty?
Whippersnapper02
Senior Member
Ultimately it's up to the dealer to say yes or no on a repair but your warranty isn't just POOF gone. If it goes further, they would have to prove that the modification caused an OEM part to fail.
bigdaddy2021
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In a nutshell, no, the dealer by-and-large can't do that. Read more here:
https://www.edmunds.com/auto-warranty/what-voids-your-vehicles-warranty.html
Of course, if what you do is, or borders on, mis-use, neglect or tampering - then yeah, they might charge you to take care of part or all of the repair, but your warranty would remain intact.
BlackWorksInc
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Usually when it comes to add-on stuff like lights and such, Toyota (not the dealer, actual Toyota side) will ask to return the vehicle to stock configuration before proceeding with any further diagnosis on issues to eliminate the possibility of it being non-warrantable and/orb affecting the stock components. I made a post about mods and warranty on another thread recently.
Sometimes you'll have to pay out of pocket for diagnosis to have the dealer prove it isn't affecting a warrantable item. I will also add that in general, most technicians will rule out aftermarket stuff if it's easy, i.e. just disconnecting a piggy back connector or wire. But from a warranty perspective they don't get paid for diagnosis even if it wasn't modified, so the more time wasted on diagnosis is money out of their paycheck; so it kind of depends on how generous the technician/dealer is feeling. Most places are willing to work with you to an extent, but after a certain point you'll end up needing to pay for additional diagnosis time or return the vehicle to stock configuration yourself before they'll do any more "free diagnosing."
Depending on how you install the items (i.e. cut & solder, wire taps, or just piggy back connectors) they may or may not honor warranty on that harness/attached components and/or require you to pay for a new harness to honor warranty because you "damaged" the factory wiring.
It's one of many reasons I advocate for people to just set up a second fuse box with a dedicated power and ground to use for their aftermarket electronics where possible. Not only does it make diagnosis much easier but if you did have a warranty issue and they tried to give you crap you just pop the positive feed cable to the fuse block and say, "back to stock, so back to diagnosis ing you go!" Lol
Sometimes you'll have to pay out of pocket for diagnosis to have the dealer prove it isn't affecting a warrantable item. I will also add that in general, most technicians will rule out aftermarket stuff if it's easy, i.e. just disconnecting a piggy back connector or wire. But from a warranty perspective they don't get paid for diagnosis even if it wasn't modified, so the more time wasted on diagnosis is money out of their paycheck; so it kind of depends on how generous the technician/dealer is feeling. Most places are willing to work with you to an extent, but after a certain point you'll end up needing to pay for additional diagnosis time or return the vehicle to stock configuration yourself before they'll do any more "free diagnosing."
Depending on how you install the items (i.e. cut & solder, wire taps, or just piggy back connectors) they may or may not honor warranty on that harness/attached components and/or require you to pay for a new harness to honor warranty because you "damaged" the factory wiring.
It's one of many reasons I advocate for people to just set up a second fuse box with a dedicated power and ground to use for their aftermarket electronics where possible. Not only does it make diagnosis much easier but if you did have a warranty issue and they tried to give you crap you just pop the positive feed cable to the fuse block and say, "back to stock, so back to diagnosis ing you go!" Lol
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NautyBruiser19
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I can't answer your question, but if you end up replacing your headlights with aftermarket, I'll take the OEM Toyota ones for $350. I'm down in the OC!
suaveflooder
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Bingo. Won’t void your entire warranty, but they will gripe about the mods and use it as a way to void anything they can. Do your raptor lights mess with your 4wd system?? Nope. Headlights?? They may find something. Just know when you modify anything, they will try and find a way to make it about everything. Sucks, but that is their game.
honda250xtitan
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"small mods"?????? raptor lights are peak 4runner modding i mean d baggery. make sure you run with your Baja Designs ON during the day on the streets too please.
Remember that the dealer isn’t the one making the final call on warranty claims, that is the OEM. The dealer may push back on doing work that could have the potential to be rejected because there is risk involved when it comes down to payment on the work done.
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Saker
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Thank you for this [MENTION=66389]BlackWorksInc[/MENTION]
I made a post when my T4R was going into limp mode because of a faulty throttle body and Toyota made me remove all aftermarket LED's from the truck, stating it was a possibility they were the cause of said malfunction.
End results, it wasn't the LED's fault but a faulty TB.
97BlackAckCL
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USStrongman
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Consider a community college English 101 so we know what kind of derogatory things you are trying to communicate?
honda250xtitan
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naw. :hunter:
