Dobinsons 5th Gen T4R Suspension options - from Exit Offroad

Looking at going for the 2.5/1.5 lift with stock control arms.

Wanted to ask if anyone had any issues with alignment going this route? Mainly caster as i have seen it can possibly be too low maintaining the stock arms but was hoping to avoid the extra cost at the moment, if it cant be done i think ill hold off until i can get it all at once

I had the 2 lift and the shop here was only able to get 1.8 caster. Not high but honestly it drove fine. That being said, i eventually replaced the ucas with a set of dobinsons and got 3.9 castor. Drove much better on and off road. If I could do it again, i would have gotten both the suspension and uca installed at the same time.
 
I had the 2 lift and the shop here was only able to get 1.8 caster. Not high but honestly it drove fine. That being said, i eventually replaced the ucas with a set of dobinsons and got 3.9 castor. Drove much better on and off road. If I could do it again, i would have gotten both the suspension and uca installed at the same time.

Yeah might have to do that then,

Is there a discount for t4r members ? maybe ill buy the lift kit now and take advantage of the offer and the uca next week if there is
 
Which configuration did you get?

I went with C59-302 Front/C59-325 rear. 700/705 strut/shock and UCAs.
Saved so much time with the pre assembly of the front strut/coils. Worth it when installing. I presume some settling. But I am very happy for now. But just achy to get new tires.
 
Yeah might have to do that then,

Is there a discount for t4r members ? maybe ill buy the lift kit now and take advantage of the offer and the uca next week if there is
There is a discount when there's not a sale going on like now. This May deal ends on Sunday and is about 3x the normal forum discount, so definitely worth jumping on!!

UCA's you can order after and get the discount on those then if you want.
 
There is a discount when there's not a sale going on like now. This May deal ends on Sunday and is about 3x the normal forum discount, so definitely worth jumping on!!

UCA's you can order after and get the discount on those then if you want.

Mike, I was thinking to go with Dobinsons UCAs as well but my shop recommended SPC.
What are everyone's thoughts?
 
I went with C59-302 Front/C59-325 rear. 700/705 strut/shock and UCAs.
Saved so much time with the pre assembly of the front strut/coils. Worth it when installing. I presume some settling. But I am very happy for now. But just achy to get new tires.

Nice. Did you gain exactly 2.5" and 2.0"?
 
Mike, I was thinking to go with Dobinsons UCAs as well but my shop recommended SPC.
What are everyone's thoughts?
Most shops recommend what they know and what they're used to. Or sometimes what they make the most money on.

SPC's require assembling and setting of the ball joint into the right place, and most shops actually set them to the same exact spot for all lifted 4Runners. The Dobinsons are set to add 3* of caster, so there's no confusion and no way for them to be put together wrong.

SPC used to have a LOT of problems with their bushings, but I think they finally have that sorted out.

At the end of the day it mostly comes down to price for what people will choose with UCA's.

The Dobinsons are sold out again, due back in stock in about 2-3 weeks from now.
 
Congrats. Truck will looks great and will look even better when you get your new shoes.

Regarding the lean.. the higher you go the more pronounced. I didn't go as high (on this T4R...) as you did. However, past experience on my 2016 with the 2/3 lift was pretty noticeable (that was an icon stg 5). This time around I got Dobinsons' optional spacer for the rear driver side to help with the lean. Pretty inexpensive little piece...but can really help with the lean at those heights.

Again... congrats. My Dobinsons setup rides so much better than the XREAS and my previous icon setup.
 
There is a discount when there's not a sale going on like now. This May deal ends on Sunday and is about 3x the normal forum discount, so definitely worth jumping on!!

UCA's you can order after and get the discount on those then if you want.

yeah that sounds like what i plan on doing. now i’m curious is there anything extra needed to go 2.5/2.0 instead of 2.5/1.5 with stock wheels?
 
yeah that sounds like what i plan on doing. now i’m curious is there anything extra needed to go 2.5/2.0 instead of 2.5/1.5 with stock wheels?

No, no difference really at all. Rear sway bar links would help it articulate better with less resistance on the sway bar. They help with 2" or more in the rear.
 
Mike, I was thinking to go with Dobinsons UCAs as well but my shop recommended SPC.
What are everyone's thoughts?

Having had Total Chaos, JBA, and Dobinson. Dobinson is my favorite since it has the least maintenance and does 95% the same thing as the other two brands.
 
705s in the rear.

Shabby! Has maybe another inch or so of travel but couldnt get it as I went up the wheel blocks at an odd angle. Any word on a possibly longer shock for those running sonoran steel bars or kdss blocs (whatever they call it)
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705s in the rear.

Shabby! Has maybe another inch or so of travel but couldnt get it as I went up the wheel blocks at an odd angle. Any word on a possibly longer shock for those running sonoran steel bars or kdss blocs (whatever they call it)
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The 701s are a fraction longer. Post 1 should list the specs i think
 
3rd row didn't return any search results, so sorry if this has been asked. Has anyone with a 3rd row installed C59-327 rear coils? The 3rd row is 100lbs and I always have some equipment in the back so I'm right around the 200lbs mark, maybe just shy. What would be the real world difference between the 325 and 327 for someone who is right around 200lbs constant load or maybe a little less? Thanks!

(I'm driving on a TRD Pro Bilstein suspension with 2/1.5" CF spacers, which gave me at least a half inch of reverse rake, so I'm debating between swapping the rear spacers out for a 2" ones or just getting rid of the rear spacers and putting a 2" rear coils instead. I haul waverunners a few times a month, and it just looks and feels ridiculous... like I'm trying to take off.)
 
So I dont plan on adding any weight to the truck, but at times I may need to tow a trailer for trips to home depot, and thinking of getting a boat in the future which I will need to tow. 95% of my driving is on the road and our daily driver, but dont want sag in the rear when towing a trailer or boat. She I good with rear springs in the back for added weight or no weight. I want some rake and then when adding the boat, etc to not be sagging. I dont want to have stiff ride when I am driving without towing anything
 
3rd row didn't return any search results, so sorry if this has been asked. Has anyone with a 3rd row installed C59-327 rear coils? The 3rd row is 100lbs and I always have some equipment in the back so I'm right around the 200lbs mark, maybe just shy. What would be the real world difference between the 325 and 327 for someone who is right around 200lbs constant load or maybe a little less? Thanks!

(I'm driving on a TRD Pro Bilstein suspension with 2/1.5" CF spacers, which gave me at least a half inch of reverse rake, so I'm debating between swapping the rear spacers out for a 2" ones or just getting rid of the rear spacers and putting a 2" rear coils instead. I haul waverunners a few times a month, and it just looks and feels ridiculous... like I'm trying to take off.)
People have run those, some even with no weight. Usually guys that load and unload often, or if they tow and need better rear load support for the trailer and its tongue weight. Since you do tow often, the 327 would be a more ideal coil for you.
 
So I dont plan on adding any weight to the truck, but at times I may need to tow a trailer for trips to home depot, and thinking of getting a boat in the future which I will need to tow. 95% of my driving is on the road and our daily driver, but dont want sag in the rear when towing a trailer or boat. She I good with rear springs in the back for added weight or no weight. I want some rake and then when adding the boat, etc to not be sagging. I dont want to have stiff ride when I am driving without towing anything
It would depend on how heavy the tongue weight of the boat is, but if it's really heavy, then airbags inside the coils would be a good way to go. Any added weight on a coil spring causes them to squat, so the only way around that is with added airbags or to use really heavy rate coils that barely squat. Since it's almost always stock weight, you don't want the heavy rate coils.

Choose the coils that match your weight all of the time. If the 4runner is rated to tow whatever, then it will tow it better with any of the Dobinsons coils because they're all a stronger rate than stock.
 
People have run those, some even with no weight. Usually guys that load and unload often, or if they tow and need better rear load support for the trailer and its tongue weight. Since you do tow often, the 327 would be a more ideal coil for you.

Thanks Mike! So would the 327 give me a slightly stiffer ride or slightly more lift if I'm at, say, 150lbs over the 325? Or would I not notice much of a difference?
 
Thanks Mike! So would the 327 give me a slightly stiffer ride or slightly more lift if I'm at, say, 150lbs over the 325? Or would I not notice much of a difference?
Maybe 2.25" of lift with that weight. Firmer ride, but ride quality mostly comes down to shocks and shock valving at the end of the day. You wouldn't know the difference unless you try and run both to actually see the difference.

If it were mine and I did what you do with it, I'd go with the 327's to have the right support when you need it.
 
mike: i saw a post today on IG about hydro bumps Dobinsons sells. threaded body for easier adjustment really caught my eye. you have any prices? 2" body with a 2" stroke would be ideal for the front and the rear i saw they have multiple sizes but they're in that funny metric system ;)
 

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