Does this look right? Shop price/list sheet

Collkid

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Hey guys.

Just got this 4runner recently. This is the list the shop came back with.


Does this amount sound right?! Over $2,000 for that front suspension stuff?!




upper and lower ball joints with control arms - $2,170
Leaking steering rack - $935
Valve cover gaskets - $528
Transfer case output seal - $338


This sucks....
 
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Hey guys.

Just got this 4runner recently. This is the list the shop came back with.


Does this amount sound right?! Over $2,000 for that front suspension stuff?!




upper and lower ball joints with control arms - $2,170
Leaking steering rack - $935
Valve cover gaskets - $528
Transfer case output seal - $338


This sucks....

Wow, $2,000 for upper and lower ball joints? Are they bad? That's insane. I would run fast. You don't need control arms unless the bushings are bad, which is unlikely. Lower ball joints are not hard to do, tons of videos on how to do them, even for a beginner. Same with valve cover gaskets, time consuming, but easy to do and tons of videos on how to do it. Transfer case output seal for $338?? That's some gouging. It takes 10 minutes to change.

Year and mileage?

Steering rack is the most reasonable thing on there, although a little high.
 
You will find that most people on this site do their own car work precisely because of this. Expect to be ass-raped when you pay someone else to work on your rig.:flame:
 
Yeah I'd stay away from that place bud. It's hard to find a decent shop that is honest and fair. I usually go in asking for a quote on something I know is fast and easy and gauge how much they try and gouge me on that.

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Normal I do my own work but I currently do not have a garage.

Maybe I'll call around to a few other shops in the area and see if its close.

But I'm glad you guys confirmed my suspicion that it was high.
 
Normal I do my own work but I currently do not have a garage.

Maybe I'll call around to a few other shops in the area and see if its close.

But I'm glad you guys confirmed my suspicion that it was high.

Maybe there is a garage that you can rent out and do the work? They have them in Salt Lake.
 
You can drive to my guy in Bozeman, MT, drive back and still pay 30% less than that total.

Try to find a shop that specializes in Toyota, that price seems like the "we don't want to work on it" price.
 
Called a few places.

Looks like I can get it cheaper so I think I'm going to go that route.

Probably going to find the part myself, whats the best source for that?
 
Called a few places.

Looks like I can get it cheaper so I think I'm going to go that route.

Probably going to find the part myself, whats the best source for that?
For oem there are quite a few places. I'm sure more will chime in. But I have always dealt with https://parts.camelbacktoyota.com/parts/index.cfm?action=selectCatalogYearMakeModel&siteid=214329 for oem parts. It is in Arizona but free shipping when you spend so much. I can't remember. But with those parts the shipping will definitely be free. I had them shipped and they are about a 45 minute drive from me. They are good on prices also! Better than I found elsewhere. But someone local might have a better option.
 
It sounds like these folks gave you a laundry list of stuff that needs done. With an old truck, there is always plenty that could be done but you need to figure out what is important.

I suggest you not change the valve cover gaskets, steering rack or transfer case seal but instead keep an eye on the fluid levels - engine oil, power steering fluid and transfer case oil levels. Figure out how to check them and see how fast they are dropping over time. If these are small leaks (which they probably are), you don't have to deal with them now - maybe never.....

The ball joints can be a safety issue so you need to figure out how to check those yourself - use this forum. These don't just go bad all of a sudden, they get progressively worse. If you have inspections where you are, they would not pass it if they fail the test but a bit of movement is normal and there is a specification for it.

Good luck,

Buckaroo
 
Ask multiple trustworthy shops for quotes. I don't bring the parts to the mechanic anymore. I let him buy them from his supplier and I don't worry about paying for the part and labor again if the part I brought the mechanic doesn't work or fails for any reason. Not that big of a difference in price between letting him buy the parts as well. Just my two cents since I don't really have the time to work on my vehicles.
 
Upper ball joints can be a pain to separate.

Lower balljoints are super easy. Just get a ball joint separator.

Valve cover gaskets are a bit trickier and time consuming, but nothing too bad if you take your time.

Never done the output seal.
 
Upper ball joints can be a pain to separate.

Lower balljoints are super easy. Just get a ball joint separator.

Valve cover gaskets are a bit trickier and time consuming, but nothing too bad if you take your time.

Never done the output seal.

I used a pickle fork to separate my upper ball joints. A big hammer works well. Takes a few hits, mine came undone in like 5 after 205,000 miles. UBJs are a little harder because you have to press in the ball joint. Rent a press from O'Riley/AZ/Advance.

Steps to do transfer case output shaft seal:

1) Engage 4WD
2) Engage E-brake
3) Chock the wheels
4) There are 2 output shafts, one for the front and one for the rear. Mark the position of the driveline in relationship with the transfer case output flange.
5) Undo the 4 14mm driveline bolts
6) You may need to give the driveline a whack, it should collapse at the slip yoke and off it comes.
7) Look at the inside of the flange, there is a big a$$ nut that's has one side dented in towards the outer edge (like 34 mm) Use a small screwdriver to straighten it.
8) Breaker bar / impact gun that nut off and the flange comes off
9) Pull the seal out being careful not to damage the transfer case race where the seal sits. I was able to use my finger and pull from the inside.
10) Put gear oil on the new OEM seal ($10) using a seal driver or a bigger socket the size of the seal, and slowly press in the new seal evenly so the seal is flush with the edge of the lip of the transfer case.
11) Installation is reverse of removal. Put driveline in lining up the marks you made.
12) Torque the flange nut (not sure of spec), this is why you put it into 4WD and E brake and chocked the wheels.
13) Top off txfer case, especially if it was leaking.

That's it. I did mine in 10 minutes with an air gun. Super easy. Definitely not worth $3xx to pay some guy to do it.
 
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I just did valve covers, plugs, cam seals, half moon seals and wires myself for about $300 in OEM parts. Took about 5 hours with directions from this site.

Just did lower ball joints all OEM parts for about $175 from Camelback Toyota.

No way I'd pay $2000 for that. I just bought an entire lift kit with adjustable upper control arms for that.
 

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