Dog Shock collars
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toybox
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I've trained many big, intense working breed dogs and have never had to resort to shocking the dog. Sorry that you spent your good money on a trainer who would use such negative tactics. There are better ways to train IMO that will give you a much more positive and confident dog. And confident and happy dogs are the easiest to live with.
Good luck with your training.
Good luck with your training.
Icepuck72
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The problem is with barking, and that is it. Other than that, she is well behaved, does what I ask her, and is good with people.
The trainer said to start with a spray bottle (water). I've done that for 4 months now to no avail. She then suggested the cintronella spray collar. It worked for maybe a couple of days, but then she just ignored it.
She then suggested the shock collar on a mild setting.
She is a 3 year old long haired Daschund. My wife and I actually have 2 of them...the other one has been a dream to train, and barks only once in a while...I only have to say no one time to her and she complies....and it is a rarity that she even barks any more.
In fact, if both of them are together playing inside or out, and she starts barking...the non-barker puts her tail between her legs and gets away from her as fast as possible....it's almost funny in a way to see that.
I'm an animal lover, and would never want to harm an animal in any way...but the barking is out of control and it needs to be corrected.
The trainer said to start with a spray bottle (water). I've done that for 4 months now to no avail. She then suggested the cintronella spray collar. It worked for maybe a couple of days, but then she just ignored it.
She then suggested the shock collar on a mild setting.
She is a 3 year old long haired Daschund. My wife and I actually have 2 of them...the other one has been a dream to train, and barks only once in a while...I only have to say no one time to her and she complies....and it is a rarity that she even barks any more.
In fact, if both of them are together playing inside or out, and she starts barking...the non-barker puts her tail between her legs and gets away from her as fast as possible....it's almost funny in a way to see that.
I'm an animal lover, and would never want to harm an animal in any way...but the barking is out of control and it needs to be corrected.
Coralkillah
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Ice- I got mine off eBay about a year ago.....cost about 90$ or so shipped.
Has contacts for short or long haired dogs and a key fob type remote that has 3 levels of "shock" accompanied by an audible beeping and just the beeping.
It also has Auto and Train modes. If left on Auto you set it to what setting you want but if your dog barks thru the "shock" it will reset itself as not to injure the pooch.
I have a 3 year old Sheperd/Retriever, very smart, likes to bark his ass off at everyone around the neighborhood. He's only been zapped a few times in the past year but the problem is that once the collar goes on he wont bark unless someone comes to the house (which is fine and what I want).
This renders the Training mode useless as he just waits until the collars off before he barks. All in all, good for keeping good relations with your neighbors and we only use it at night and take it off in the morning.
Only drawback is the battery is rechargeable and encased so once it dies, gotta toss it for another. but we've had ours for over a year and charge it daily, so far so good. I'd buy another.
The ones on eBay have them sized for different size dogs.
Hope this helps.
By the way, I placed the probes on my arm and hit the lowest shock setting.....if that was on my neck, I wouldn't bark either!:bugeye:
Has contacts for short or long haired dogs and a key fob type remote that has 3 levels of "shock" accompanied by an audible beeping and just the beeping.
It also has Auto and Train modes. If left on Auto you set it to what setting you want but if your dog barks thru the "shock" it will reset itself as not to injure the pooch.
I have a 3 year old Sheperd/Retriever, very smart, likes to bark his ass off at everyone around the neighborhood. He's only been zapped a few times in the past year but the problem is that once the collar goes on he wont bark unless someone comes to the house (which is fine and what I want).
This renders the Training mode useless as he just waits until the collars off before he barks. All in all, good for keeping good relations with your neighbors and we only use it at night and take it off in the morning.
Only drawback is the battery is rechargeable and encased so once it dies, gotta toss it for another. but we've had ours for over a year and charge it daily, so far so good. I'd buy another.
The ones on eBay have them sized for different size dogs.
Hope this helps.
By the way, I placed the probes on my arm and hit the lowest shock setting.....if that was on my neck, I wouldn't bark either!:bugeye:
rook
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Have you considered another training technique? Shock collars cure the symptom of a dogs behavior and not necessarily the root cause of the barking. I'm sure you love your dog, so take some time to do additional research before resorting to a shock collar. Search the web for Cesar Millan and his training philosophy, and I believe you will be more successful.
my grandmother had a shock collar on her dog and he barked like crazy when it was off and not at all when it was on, he knew what was up. They didnt keep it on him all the time(like when they were sleeping) because it was somewhat heavy on the dogs neck. But that dog deffinitly knew when the collar was on and off his neck.
Something to try would be put it on the dog and once you get to the point of where he realizes what it does and when it does it and when its actually on and when you take the collar off, would be to put it on him but leave it turned off. Just an idea.
Something to try would be put it on the dog and once you get to the point of where he realizes what it does and when it does it and when its actually on and when you take the collar off, would be to put it on him but leave it turned off. Just an idea.
Ricky2Martin
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Do this collar hurts??
nevada
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we used a shock collar on our dog with GREAT results. we only had to use it a handful of times. he obeys and responds MUCH better than he used to. he also took to his traditional training very well.
the reason for the collar though, he would get very excited when out in the forest, he ran off after game several times. now, he barely chases a squirrel if I don't want him to, and comes back to me immediately when I call him.
as to the brand, I would have to look into it and get back to you. I don't remember off hand which it was.
the reason for the collar though, he would get very excited when out in the forest, he ran off after game several times. now, he barely chases a squirrel if I don't want him to, and comes back to me immediately when I call him.
as to the brand, I would have to look into it and get back to you. I don't remember off hand which it was.
BrianSD_42
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Perhaps get a 2nd opinion!
nevada
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https://smile.amazon.com/Petrainer-...WSC2&pd_rd_i=B00W6Y3I3O&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER
that isn't the exact one we used, but its very much like it, just a different brand. I cant remember the brand we have, but the last time I looked it up, they weren't available(on amazon).
it works well, I usually use it on 5% or less.
all these people concerned about SHOCKING the dog, but that's not really what you're doing, nor what you want to do. it will be like a little pinch, it definitely startles them, and gets their attention. its not like a taser, it doesn't fold them into a ball on the ground.
that isn't the exact one we used, but its very much like it, just a different brand. I cant remember the brand we have, but the last time I looked it up, they weren't available(on amazon).
it works well, I usually use it on 5% or less.
all these people concerned about SHOCKING the dog, but that's not really what you're doing, nor what you want to do. it will be like a little pinch, it definitely startles them, and gets their attention. its not like a taser, it doesn't fold them into a ball on the ground.
RedSled
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Most of the shock collors have a vibration first then you can progress from there, usually the vibration gets their attention enough.
TrDpRo_J
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Why don't you take the time and effort to train your dog the right way insread of taking the easy way and SHOCKING the dog into what you will call "trained"
Amen!! This drives me mad but someone people don't know what they don't know so I'm gonna rise above that and try and help..
OP if you whole hearted 'care' about your pups wellbeing please go on Youtube and learn more about 'positive renforcement'. It is soooo rewarding and you won't have a pups that is a complete a$$ hole like all the ones in my neighbour hood.
All that is required is your time and patience that is it, the trainer you refer to sounds trash if I'm honest - I have two pups and rescued one as a stray and she is 70% off leash in a year and when we got her she didn't know where to poop. I did this all with youtube and the highest quality 'raw like' kibble.
I usually don't comment on posts like these but honestly it breaks my heart to see pups punished for being pups, if you want them to work in your lifestyle you have to teach them how they arent human. If you get a trainer, you should be doing the training along side them, after all the bond is with you not a stranger.
Lastly don't take offense to what I've said, that is NOT my intention..
Some useful sources
kikopup (Youtube)
ZakGeorge21 (Youtube)
Beyond Ceaser Milan (FB group)
nevada
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correct. ours gives 3 options. vibration, sound, or a shock.
the biggest issue we had was getting the contact pins to touch the skin. ours is a husky/malamute cross, so pretty long hair. we did have to clip his neck hair a bit shorter, and still ended up using the long pins. but even still occasionally it would get positioned in such a way so as to not make contact.
I don't much like zapping my dog, but its either that, or he runs off and is lost, or gets eaten by a cougar. its better for both myself and the pup that he gets a little nip if he gets out of control.
mrblah
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I've had dogs all my life from rottweilers to saint bernards to 2 mini schnauzers.
I had to resort to a shock collar for my current mini schnauzer.
He's a F-ing devil when he is around other dogs, and no amount of training will get him to snap out of it. I have tried positive reinforcement, negative reinforcement, treats, and clicker training, and even a sound/vibrate only (which he actually enjoys)....and yet he will always square up when another dog is around, and go absolutely banana's.....
So I had to buy a shock collar as a insurance policy so he doesn't hurt himself or another dog. Also, my neighbors were getting sick and tired of him and complaining to my landlord. It was either the collar or he had to go..... I choose to keep him and do what I can to control his craziness.
Luckily, I haven't used it yet, and I don't plan on to...but its there if he doesn't grow out of it (I still try to train him everyday....he was like this with strangers..and that has passed but with other dogs.....at this point its no bueno).
For those who are looking to buy one...buy one that lets you escalate from sound, to vibration, to shock.. Also, buy one with a remote, not the sound activated one. The sound activated will go off when you don't want to, and not go off when you want it too....
Also, keep in mind, if u use the functions too much it will drain batteries really fast, but then again, you shouldn't need to use it all but one or two times.
I had to resort to a shock collar for my current mini schnauzer.
He's a F-ing devil when he is around other dogs, and no amount of training will get him to snap out of it. I have tried positive reinforcement, negative reinforcement, treats, and clicker training, and even a sound/vibrate only (which he actually enjoys)....and yet he will always square up when another dog is around, and go absolutely banana's.....
So I had to buy a shock collar as a insurance policy so he doesn't hurt himself or another dog. Also, my neighbors were getting sick and tired of him and complaining to my landlord. It was either the collar or he had to go..... I choose to keep him and do what I can to control his craziness.
Luckily, I haven't used it yet, and I don't plan on to...but its there if he doesn't grow out of it (I still try to train him everyday....he was like this with strangers..and that has passed but with other dogs.....at this point its no bueno).
For those who are looking to buy one...buy one that lets you escalate from sound, to vibration, to shock.. Also, buy one with a remote, not the sound activated one. The sound activated will go off when you don't want to, and not go off when you want it too....
Also, keep in mind, if u use the functions too much it will drain batteries really fast, but then again, you shouldn't need to use it all but one or two times.
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spartacus
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I ve never used a shock collar and I've had dogs most of my life and two of them a boxer and a german shorthair pointer were breeding stock and we're not neutered so they really needed a lot of training specially around other dogs took a lot of time and effort but once I had their trust it was amazing how well behaved and great family members they were. I don't understand shock collars.
ayeyothisiskyle
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Serious questions...
When does she start barking?
Is it out of nowhere or does she just bark for the sake of barking?
How much do you exercise the dog?
Do you get her excited when you get home? (i.e. "wheres my little good girl?" "hiIiIi! did you miss me?!")
I personally do not agree with shock collar training. I know there are steps, like audible beep, vibration (low/med/high intensities), and shocks (low/med/high or numbered intensities). But I just dont agree with it. If you cant shock yourself with it, you shouldnt shock your dog with it. I've tried it... boredom and beers with friends while camping.
I just think exercising the dog regularly and making sure they understand what you are asking them to do. "No." "Quiet" "Hush"
I trained two bichons (my parent's dogs) and my german shepherd. The two little ones barked a lot, but knew when to stop when told and the german shepherd is very protective over me and my family.
When does she start barking?
Is it out of nowhere or does she just bark for the sake of barking?
How much do you exercise the dog?
Do you get her excited when you get home? (i.e. "wheres my little good girl?" "hiIiIi! did you miss me?!")
I personally do not agree with shock collar training. I know there are steps, like audible beep, vibration (low/med/high intensities), and shocks (low/med/high or numbered intensities). But I just dont agree with it. If you cant shock yourself with it, you shouldnt shock your dog with it. I've tried it... boredom and beers with friends while camping.
I just think exercising the dog regularly and making sure they understand what you are asking them to do. "No." "Quiet" "Hush"
I trained two bichons (my parent's dogs) and my german shepherd. The two little ones barked a lot, but knew when to stop when told and the german shepherd is very protective over me and my family.
