i dont know if its just me or what, the steering on my truck seems to wonder a bit when im on the freeway going faster than 60mph. i feel myself constantly correcting and straightening out. is this due to the tires? i did a search on these tires and it seems that no one really likes them.
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I got the dunlops, I agree with jharris2 on the snow and ice but my alignment was off and after that was fixed truck does fine going down the road.
My Dunlops are at 21k, not bad considering that I had a 96 and 2000 Pathfinders with stock Bridgestones that where pretty much bald when I hit 20k, Im gonna replace them at 25-30k with some revos cause of all the great reviews of 4Runner owners and moneys tight, sucks but the company I worked for folded
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I got the dunlops, I agree with jharris2 on the snow and ice but my alignment was off and after that was fixed truck does fine going down the road.
My Dunlops are at 21k, not bad considering that I had a 96 and 2000 Pathfinders with stock Bridgestones that where pretty much bald when I hit 20k, Im gonna replace them at 25-30k with some revos cause of all the great reviews of 4Runner owners and moneys tight, sucks but the company I worked for folded
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Sac State
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These tires are dangerous and should be removed by Toyota as OE. They have NO snow traction and are rated as moderatly unacceptable for snow traction by an online tire ranking retailer. If you live anywhere it snows, replace these tires at your earliest convenience.
This is a horrible tire in snow and slushy ice, downright life threatening.
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/showthread.php?threadid=7438
This is a horrible tire in snow and slushy ice, downright life threatening.
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/showthread.php?threadid=7438
Anyone in a 2 or 4 wheel drive car/truck can go in snow. It's Stopping thats the problem. I see a lot of SUV's in accidents with other SUV's on snowy highways on Long Island. My only fear is that the Revo's may keep me out of an accident, but, they may not be able to stop the old guy who cant stop intime from hitting me.
The tread depth on my AT20's are still pretty good at 23K miles. While I wish the dunflops were better, I will wait until 36K miles to swap them out.
As for driving around at 70mph, i do feel a bit comfortable knowing I have the Xreas suspension system.
With a high CG, and not the most aerodynamic vehicle, at higher speeds the car will wander.
Let me know how the Revo's are. They look damn good in person... Also are you guys swapping out your spare tire? Yuck, thats an extra 150 beans for a tire that's seldom used.
...Unless you do a 5 tire rotation...
The tread depth on my AT20's are still pretty good at 23K miles. While I wish the dunflops were better, I will wait until 36K miles to swap them out.
As for driving around at 70mph, i do feel a bit comfortable knowing I have the Xreas suspension system.
With a high CG, and not the most aerodynamic vehicle, at higher speeds the car will wander.
Let me know how the Revo's are. They look damn good in person... Also are you guys swapping out your spare tire? Yuck, thats an extra 150 beans for a tire that's seldom used.
...Unless you do a 5 tire rotation...
I'm planning to get all 5 done and start a 5-tire rotation. Unfortunately, when I checked today, Tirerack is backordered on Revos and the local dealers are out, too. Looks like I may have to wait (no Costco in Arkansas). Of course, with the prices the local guys want, I need to save up -- they want $189/tire. I'm trying to see if they can come a lot closer to Tirerack's price of $143 for the 265/65-17. The 265/70-17 is a few bucks cheaper.
well, i figured the truck wandering around might have something to do with it being somewhat tall. thing is, i've never noticed it in any other trucks that my friends drive. (rodeo, passport...same thing i know, xterra, 3rd gen 4runner) its kind of annoying always trying to keep it straight with the fear of getting pulled for a dui. are there any other tires out there besides the revo's that are pretty good? im not really looking for an extreme offroad tire. but something that will keep me safe in all conditions as i do plan on taking it to the mountains to do some snowboarding. anyone try the pirelli scorpion a/t? or something like the yokohama geolander h/t-s g051? the yok's seem to have high ratings on tirerack...
Yokohama Geolandar AT+II are excellent tires in all weather, I had them on my 2000 Pathfinder, the truck was like it was on tracks in the snow, and in a foot it did excellent I actually had to slow down slower cause I did not want to get rear ended by the people behind me.
The AT+II could not get stuck, in 2 feet of frozen slush packed snow where other SUV got stuck entering the highway I rolled into it gave it some gave and went right through:
If I could have kept the Pathfinder as the snow vehicle I would have.
You still have to drive carefull in the snowy conditions but for any tire I ever had in the snow these made it felt like I was in touch with the road.
Now the 4Runner is great but in snow I feel like the truck is driving ontop of the snow not cutting through it.
My biggest mistake was trading in my Pathfinder with 20k on the tires and they did not even have any real wear on them, but they where 16's, still could have gave them to someone but I rotated them alot, which I think your suppost to do.
My tire guy got them for me for 4 for 400, right now their like 89 a peace on tire rack
The AT+II could not get stuck, in 2 feet of frozen slush packed snow where other SUV got stuck entering the highway I rolled into it gave it some gave and went right through
:If I could have kept the Pathfinder as the snow vehicle I would have.
You still have to drive carefull in the snowy conditions but for any tire I ever had in the snow these made it felt like I was in touch with the road.
Now the 4Runner is great but in snow I feel like the truck is driving ontop of the snow not cutting through it.
My biggest mistake was trading in my Pathfinder with 20k on the tires and they did not even have any real wear on them, but they where 16's, still could have gave them to someone but I rotated them alot, which I think your suppost to do.
My tire guy got them for me for 4 for 400, right now their like 89 a peace on tire rack
I'm doing the 5-tire swap so I can do the 5-tire rotation -- and getting the 265/65-17's. Ordered them today, should have them tomorrow or Friday.Sac State said:
Don't want a Dunlop in the mix, and it's wasteful to have a perfectly good tire sitting under the truck unused and dry rotting. It's worth the extra up-front costs to me, since the full set should last longer.
TechWrench
Senior Member
jharris2 said:
You should like the REVOs. I have had a set for winter use the last two years and love them. One bit of advise, it may take a bit of experimenting to find the tire pressure that's right for your ride. When I first got my REVOs, I set them at 37, same as I run my oem Bridgstone H/Ts. but they tended to wander. I dropped them down to 35 and they run great. They are a bit louder than the H/Ts, but are great in the snow, and the best wet weather tire I have ever owned.
Dubert said:
Considering the wind velocity, angle you are traveling, and size of the vehicle (minus the jumbo elephant sized - side view mirrors), I think the 4runner is very efficient in cutting through the air. I say this because a "raindrop" looks like a big mac, or hamburger as it falls through the sky.
Most SUV's are just bah, ugly, and freaky looking burgers.
The 4runner on the other hand, is sleek and will go through the wind which ever direction you drive in. Thus if you figure there is some wind buffeting, I guess you can say the engineers took that into consideration while making our truck.
i dunno just a thought...
Fro-Runner
New member
I've mention this wandering problem on other sites!
I own a 2004 V-6 4runner SR5 4X4 with 17in DunFLOPS tires, live in So Calif. and have experienced this same wandering problem since I purchased the vehicle. Originally, I had the tire pressure at 38 psi. but have since dropped back to 35 psi. The latter seemed to make a slight bit of difference but I still feel as if the vehicle requires too much of my concentration at the steering helm to keep it in my lane at times on level highway. I've tried both 4wd-Hi mode and the 2wd modes. The 4wd-hi mode does improve the wander steering a bit...but it is still present. I do not have the sport edition (no hood scoop)
to increase the truck's drag. I just haven't been able to pinpoint the problem during my driving habits. I will be taking the truck into the dealership for it's first oil change (3300 mls) next week. I am going to have them check the front end alignment, balance, and correct all of Toyota's TSB's for this vehicle. I will let you know the followup of this service. I am thinking that it probably has to do with the upgrade to 17" rims/tires and the 250 lbs less weight of the V-6 engine over the V-8!
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2004 SR5 V6 4X4 Galactica Mica Gray w/
-upgrade to 17" sport edition rims
-factory moonroof
-rear spoiler
-chrome exhaust tip
-fitted toyota seat covers
-$500 outdoor truck cover. (This was a very solid and smart investment! Truck looks great even after heavy rainfall. Just use california duster to remove dust and drive off.)
______________
Future mods:
-chrome front Bull bar
-chrome rear bumper bar
-clear rear tail lens/lamps
-DVD/Navi HU system w/ 2 subs mounted in rear compartment.
-DRL's fuse replacement
________________
possible future mods:
-rear fog lamp mod
P.S. If anyone knows where I can get a good deal on a good shiny front bull bar (w/extra crossing center bar)....pls let me know or post here.
Thanks......I really love this forum!
I own a 2004 V-6 4runner SR5 4X4 with 17in DunFLOPS tires, live in So Calif. and have experienced this same wandering problem since I purchased the vehicle. Originally, I had the tire pressure at 38 psi. but have since dropped back to 35 psi. The latter seemed to make a slight bit of difference but I still feel as if the vehicle requires too much of my concentration at the steering helm to keep it in my lane at times on level highway. I've tried both 4wd-Hi mode and the 2wd modes. The 4wd-hi mode does improve the wander steering a bit...but it is still present. I do not have the sport edition (no hood scoop)
to increase the truck's drag. I just haven't been able to pinpoint the problem during my driving habits. I will be taking the truck into the dealership for it's first oil change (3300 mls) next week. I am going to have them check the front end alignment, balance, and correct all of Toyota's TSB's for this vehicle. I will let you know the followup of this service. I am thinking that it probably has to do with the upgrade to 17" rims/tires and the 250 lbs less weight of the V-6 engine over the V-8!_____________
2004 SR5 V6 4X4 Galactica Mica Gray w/
-upgrade to 17" sport edition rims
-factory moonroof
-rear spoiler
-chrome exhaust tip
-fitted toyota seat covers
-$500 outdoor truck cover. (This was a very solid and smart investment! Truck looks great even after heavy rainfall. Just use california duster to remove dust and drive off.)
______________
Future mods:
-chrome front Bull bar
-chrome rear bumper bar
-clear rear tail lens/lamps
-DVD/Navi HU system w/ 2 subs mounted in rear compartment.
-DRL's fuse replacement
________________
possible future mods:
-rear fog lamp mod
P.S. If anyone knows where I can get a good deal on a good shiny front bull bar (w/extra crossing center bar)....pls let me know or post here.
Thanks......I really love this forum!
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tkr128
New member
I too have the wandering on pavement that's not absolutely smooth (or close to it). I've had this with both my 16" wheels with the Bridgestone Dueler H/T 840's and my 17" wheels with the Michelin Cross Terrains. The 17"/Michelin combo improved drives a bit better, but it's still noticeable and can get annoying. I'll be getting an alignment soon (30k miles is approaching quickly) when I install my new steering wheel, so that may help it out a little.
As planned, the first 4 went on today and only have a few miles on them. The shop aired them up to about 41 psi so I took them down to 36 to start. Will adjust over the next few weeks.jharris2 said:
First things I noticed were the 4Runner seems just a bit more sluggish from a dead stop. Second thing was that when you let your foot off the accelerator, the speed decreases faster than before. Both should be expected if you have a tire with more traction (i.e., road friction) than before.
The wife will drive the truck tomorrow while I have some work done on the Camry. Will be interesting to see if she notices any significant difference.
Unexpectedly put 150 miles on the tires today -- no more highway noise than the AT20's, great traction, no vibration (the shop knew to use the Haweka adapter).
Supposed to rain the next couple of days so I can get a good test. Today was scattered sprinkles.
Looks like all of you steered me to a very good choice. Thanks!!
Supposed to rain the next couple of days so I can get a good test. Today was scattered sprinkles.
Looks like all of you steered me to a very good choice. Thanks!!
Fro-Runner
New member
What is the Haweka adapter? What exactly does this do to help your new Bridgestone Duelers?
