eBay Track Bar & rear control arms

T101

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After seeing the popularity and surprisingly good reviews of the EBay UCA's, figured I would start a separate thread for the newly released no-name track bar and rear control arms.

They seem to be from the same manufacturer. Wondering who will be the first brave soul to try these out. I'm not nearly as knowledgeable about the use/need/benefits of upgraded track bars and rear arms as others, so please people, add to the conversation.

Original Ebay UCA thread http://www.toyota-4runner.org/4th-gen-t4rs/182584-ebay-uniball-control-arms.html

New trackbar/rear control arms
vendor 1 "lift.option"
Upper Lower Track Bar Arm for 2 4" Lift Kit 4 Runner FJ Cruiser 03 09 | eBay

vendor 2 "blitz.auto"
2003 2009 4 Runner FJ Cruiser Upper Lower Track Bar Arm for 2 4" Lift Kit | eBay

Both listings are identical.

Their description:

Surface Finish: Heavy Duty 4130 Chromoly Tubular
Product Description
These adjustable control arms are made from carbon steel with polyurethane bushings & solid rod end bearings. Eliminate wheel hop, steering wander, increase traction and wheel alignment with an easy bolt on installation. 100% TIG welded for the ultimate in strength and appearance. These control arms are built with an offset to provide maximum tire clearance. When running larger tires they can rub against the stock control arms at full steering lock, our offset design eliminates this problem. You must to have these when you lift the vehicle 2" or more!
Package Content

Rear Upper Control Arms x2
Rear Lower Control Arms x2
Rear Track Bar x1
Digital Installation Guide x1
Installation time is approximately 1-2 hours

Vehicle Fitment

Toyota 4-Runner 2003-2009 2WD 4WD
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I'm tempted since I need to do something about my upper arms anyway. It's going to depend on how long it takes for my tax return to get here. I was already going to buy the uppers from Metal Tech, but if I can get the whole package for a couple hundred more, I might as well.
 
Be wary of Chinese steel. Try and get the tubing thickness from them and compare them to some made domestically. The material certs on the "same grade" of steel will surprise you when you look at domestic vs China.
 
So these bad boys will stop my tires from rubbing at full steering lock? That's awesome. I hadn't even heard of anyone putting rear wheel steering in their 4Runners. Amazing.
 
So these bad boys will stop my tires from rubbing at full steering lock? That's awesome. I hadn't even heard of anyone putting rear wheel steering in their 4Runners. Amazing.

the upper control arms from the same manufacturer were advertised as a lift kit too
 
Be wary of Chinese steel. Try and get the tubing thickness from them and compare them to some made domestically. The material certs on the "same grade" of steel will surprise you when you look at domestic vs China.
I large majority of steel tubing comes from China now a days. I'm not disagreeing with you here, but Chinese steel tubing is used every day in everything from structural applications, to oil & gas well casing, to cheap ass suspension components.

I wouldn't be too worried about them.
 
/\ correct, but, the tensile strength is different even though at same gauge/ thickness.
I'm not sure if this is something one could conclude about an entire countries steel tubing.

Who knows exactly what is used. The front UCAs are apparently made in the USA.
 
somebody try this already. If you can take a caliper to the oem vs eBay that would be greatly appreciated.
 
I large majority of steel tubing comes from China now a days. I'm not disagreeing with you here, but Chinese steel tubing is used every day in everything from structural applications, to oil & gas well casing, to cheap ass suspension components.

I wouldn't be too worried about them.


Most Chinese steel is sub par quality. I run a machine shop that builds oilfield tools. Most of our customers will refuse a tool if the material certs show China as the country of origin. I'm not talking just mom and pop companies either. Sometimes we have to use Chinese steel but we have to have the material tested by a US certification company in order to meet the specifications we need for our tools and our customers tools. Most companies that are not held under ISO, API, etc. don't look at material certs before they use material. Who knows who made them and where.

I'm not saying the arms are junk but I would investigate them further before I put them on one of my vehicles. My concerns come from a manufacturing engineering and production background.
 
/\ correct, but, the tensile strength is different even though at same gauge/ thickness.


You are correct every batch of material varies slightly that is why there is a range on the specs.

The Chinese stuff they are using might be great stuff but how do you know?
 
Most Chinese steel is sub par quality. I run a machine shop that builds oilfield tools. Most of our customers will refuse a tool if the material certs show China as the country of origin. I'm not talking just mom and pop companies either. Sometimes we have to use Chinese steel but we have to have the material tested by a US certification company in order to meet the specifications we need for our tools and our customers tools. Most companies that are not held under ISO, API, etc. don't look at material certs before they use material. Who knows who made them and where.

I'm not saying the arms are junk but I would investigate them further before I put them on one of my vehicles. My concerns come from a manufacturing engineering and production background.
Right on man, I appreciate the post from someone who has knowledge about these kinds of things!


What kind of tools do you build? Motors?
 
I've been machine shops for a good while and in leadership for most of that time. I had to get back on a machine this year though due to having to lay off some of my guys. We build a lot of wireline, fishing, and recovery tools. We thread some pipe here and there. We mainly build our own parts. The owner has a bunch of parts he invented and has patents on so all the big companies come to us for these specialty tools. I am currently design and building a new style thread for pipe. They are actually going torque test it tomorrow. The oilfield being slow has allowed us to prototype new stuff and get new parts to market. So it's not all bad just mostly bad...
 
I've been machine shops for a good while and in leadership for most of that time. I had to get back on a machine this year though due to having to lay off some of my guys. We build a lot of wireline, fishing, and recovery tools. We thread some pipe here and there. We mainly build our own parts. The owner has a bunch of parts he invented and has patents on so all the big companies come to us for these specialty tools. I am currently design and building a new style thread for pipe. They are actually going torque test it tomorrow. The oilfield being slow has allowed us to prototype new stuff and get new parts to market. So it's not all bad just mostly bad...
Right on. You out of Canada or the US? I haul directional tools for a living. I'm out of Canada, and we've been feeling the slow down too.

Fishing is pretty sweet. I've hauled fishing gear to some pretty expensive mess ups! The guys who run those tools are extremely talented.
 
I'm in the US. I have a vague understanding of what they use our tools for but my job is to make the parts to the picture and figure out how to build all the owners new ideas. It's an interesting job for sure.
 
Haha this oil field talk is reminding me of my childhood helping out my step-dad who was a "wild cat" running a solo operation out of souther Utah and Arizona border.

On another note. Hope someone tires these out for a good 15_25k miles and I'll pick them up. (trying to get a prinsudesign rack and cvt RTT first)
 
You guy should build it your self that what i am doing right now i got all the lenght for a 6 inch lift on my 4runner 2003
 
You guy should build it your self that what i am doing right now i got all the lenght for a 6 inch lift on my 4runner 2003

Not everyone has a welder or the skill to do it themselves. Cheaper solutions, even iffy ones, are easier for a lot of people for pieces such as this. Still on the fence about trying them, I'm actually getting a bigger tax return than I expected.
 

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