Educate Me on Beginner Handguns

GreyhoundGuy

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My wife and I have talked about taking shooting lessons at a nearby range. We've never been gun owners, but we both like the idea of having a handgun near our bed... just in case. I figure that we could take out the clip and put that behind the nightstand and then keep the actual gun in the nightstand drawer. (We're hoping to have a family someday, and we figured that keeping the two separate would just be a good thing to start doing now.)

Glock is really the only brand I've heard of, so I checked out their site. It has a basic tool that walks you through simple questions like home/business, sport/defense, etc. It came up with results of Glock 17, 19, 21, 22, 23, 37, and 38. I get that they move up in caliber as you get to the larger numbers. I'm guessing that a 9mm would be fine... but I'd rather get some input from y'all.

Where do we start? Do you have any recommendations for a basic handgun that we should check out? What kinds of prices should we be expecting?

-Joel
 
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I'm no expert and I'm sure there are others here that will chime in, but for home defense I would say go with the largest caliber that you and the wife are comfortable shooting. Get some range time, check out a few different guns and see what you like and are comfortable with first off.




Oh and it's a magazine, not a clip :thumb:
 
Joel,

Your question is a lot like saying, "I've been seeing people driving these vehicles on the street and some pictures of people in some more rugged vehicles that look like there not on the street - so I've decided to get my driver's license. Can somebody recommend the best car or truck for me?"

I'm not trying to be smart - just saying your question is so broad and your knowledge base so low at the moment its going to be a little difficult. 10 different people will respond w/ 10 different answers, all of them really good points, but they may not be the best for you.

Here's my advice. Look up some local gun ranges that rent guns. Go there, tell them of your inexperience and ask to rent a variety of guns to try. Rent multiple guns over multiple weeks, try a bunch of different stuff see what you like, what you don't. Then ask the question again, but with a little better baseline of knowledge and you will get a lot closer to picking an ideal firearm for you and your wife.

David
 
As a gun owner I have lots of available option to me and my wife. But for times when something "goes bump in the night" we have settled on a 20 gauge pump shotgun.

If you want a handgun and want to use home defense as a reason to get one, fine. but if you are serious about it, consider a shotgun. here is why.

Handguns without LOTS of range time, are difficult to hit you target. Add potential dark conditions of night time and the extreme amount of fear that you will likely face that would cause you to point a gun at another human being and you are likely to not hit much. Also, handgun loads can easily over penetrate interior and even exterior walls.

Shorter rifles, like the popular AR-15, will definitely do the trick and you are more likely to be on target than a handgun, but the risk of over penetration goes way up.

Long rifles of course, are really not considered in most home defense situations.

Shotguns provide stopping power without over penetrating. A 12 gauge is the most popular option but can be a lot for a woman to handle. Moving down to a 20 gauge with proper loads (#3 shot) will provide plenty of stopping power but with reduced recoil.

If you are set on a handgun, look for local shooting range that allows rentals. Go shoot, enjoy.... But first, pay for a firearm safety training class. Guns are very safe if handled by competent users. Incompetent gun owners are no safer than unarmed citizens, and in many ways even less so.

Lots of options out there, stay safe and good luck.


Edit: seeing that you are (assumedly) a dog owner, you already have a potential great theft deterrent as well as a great early detection alarm. Also get, work out a lighting solution. (mounted light, flashlight, handgun combo, etc..)

Edit2: Sorry. laptop jacked up my post.
 
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X2 to what David said. Most of your pistol shops in town that have an indoor range will normally rent hand guns you can shoot. shoot as many different guns as you can. once you find something that you are both comfortable with, then look at purchasing. I would also look in to a concealed carry license for you and your wife. Even if you don't plan on carrying anywhere, the training and knowledge will greatly benefit you.
 
I'm not trying to be smart - just saying your question is so broad and your knowledge base so low at the moment its going to be a little difficult. 10 different people will respond w/ 10 different answers, all of them really good points, but they may not be the best for you.

No worries. I appreciate your honesty. There's a range that's on the way to both my wife's and my work. I'll check out to see if they have classes (I'm sure they do) as well as rental while at the range. I like the idea of trying a wide variety.

Thanks for your response!

-Joel
 
Your gun should be loaded with one in the chamber, otherwise it's a very awkwardly-shaped hammer. Keeping an unloaded gun separate from the magazine will guarantee that you won't be able to use it when you need it most. If you have reservations about keeping a loaded, chambered firearm next to your bed, you probably need to re-examine if you're ready to have a gun in the first place.

If you're interested in home defense, any striker fired Glock, M&P, XD, or Walther will do. Caliber choice is whatever you prefer. Most cost about 500 bucks. Most ranges will rent you one to try out.

I also agree with the others that a 12 or 20 ga pump shotgun is a reasonable alternative if you're just interested in home defense.
 
my 2 cents for what it is worth.....

If you are set on a hand gun, get one that you afford to shoot at least once a month and one that has readily purchased ammo...

You and your wife should each have one, my wife HATES my 9mm mostly because it does not fit her hand very well, the full frame is a bit much for her small hands. While she has become much more at ease with it, I feel much better know that she has the shotgun in the house while I am gone, I know that if it came down to it that would be a much better option for her....

What ever you get, shoot often, a gun with out range time is near worthless, if you find your self making a life of death choice you need to be able to hit what you are pointing at, on top of that even in controled setting such as the range a fire arm in the hands of an un experience shooter with little to no training is hard to make work, now add in you are trying to use this fire arm to defend your life.....

Ammo and guns have been coming and going on shelves for the last few years some times you have no problems, other times good luch finding even the most mundane rounds everything from wally world to the ammo shops can be sold out

I choose to carry and shoot 9mm, mostly because it is fairly cheap and easy to get most of the time, I try to shoot at least a hundred rounds a month and always keep a good stockpile on hand so that when ammo is hard to find I can still shoot.

Lots of people will tell you get the biggest round you can for stopping power I personally think thats nonsense, sure a .357 of 45 long colt has a lot punch then mine but I have 17 rounds and if the first one does not do the job I can always follow it up.

If you go hand gun get what feels good shooting and what fits your hand, if you get a shot gun there is not need to break the bank a remington 870 or mossburg 500 comes in both 12 and 20 gage and are bullet proof cant breakum awesome as long as they are well taken care of
good luck
 
Get some quality training (a concealed carry weapons license class doesn't count) and your questions will be answered.
 
^x2 for home protection, pistols second.
a pistols primary use is to fight your way to a good weapon. :D

as said above, go to a range, and rent/borrow/shoot as many different guns as you can, until you find something that is comfortable.


also, as said above, keep the weapon loaded and chambered.
its as useful as a paperweight otherwise, and can actually be a liability.
 
As a gun owner I have lots of available option to me and my wife. But for times when something "goes bump in the night" we have settled on a 20 gauge pump shotgun.

I agree 100% with what Morphyne says...... All of it. Overpenetration is bad.

People occasionally ask me what's the best home defense handgun. After a few questions I come to find out that they really just want to buy a handgun and use "home defense" as a justification.

If your serious about home defense get a shotgun. One 12guage 00buck shell contains 9 .32cal pellets. How long would it take for you to bark off 9 accurate rounds at a target?

I personally don't think a Glock is a good "beginner" handgun as there are no real external safety's. Couple that with a fairly light trigger, makes it pretty dangerous to have around children. Just my opinion though...

A pump shotgun of any calibre is better for home defense than any handgun.
 
Some great advice in this thread. Definitely look in a shotty with birdshot (or special home defense shells) for using in your house. And never ever store a weapon loaded or anywhere near its ammunition unless it's got a trigger lock on it or they're both in the safe, especially if you ever have to plan anybody's child in the house. Just get that nightstand bullcrap out of your head. That's movie shit.

For learning what kinda handgun you like, call around to your local ranges and see which ones will rent you handguns to try on their range. Then take some classes with their loaners, take the rentals for a spin, see what you like once you know how to handle a handgun. As noted, there's no point in asking what kind of car you should buy until you know how to drive.
 
Easiest and probably safest beginner handgun would be a revolver. Something like a S&W 438 (638 if you prefer silver) is a nice option. Has a shrouded hammer which also makes it a nice option for concealed carry. Loaded with 38 special +P ammo it is a viable option. It is simple to use and has a heavier trigger pull which helps prevent accidental discharge.

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That said, I agree that a $299 youth sized 20 guage pump from Walmart with #3 buck shot is a better option for home defense.
 
Some great advice in this thread. Definitely look in a shotty with birdshot (or special home defense shells) for using in your house. And never ever store a weapon loaded or anywhere near its ammunition unless it's got a trigger lock on it or they're both in the safe, especially if you ever have to plan anybody's child in the house. Just get that nightstand bullcrap out of your head. That's movie shit.

For learning what kinda handgun you like, call around to your local ranges and see which ones will rent you handguns to try on their range. Then take some classes with their loaners, take the rentals for a spin, see what you like once you know how to handle a handgun. As noted, there's no point in asking what kind of car you should buy until you know how to drive.

I disagree completely. its useless if you cant access it quickly. fumbling around with a trigger lock could get you killed.
 
My recommendation would be to check out a firearms forum. There is most likely one specific to your state and or local area. This would allow you to know if a specific range or shop is good or not. For example, there are a few shops in the Indy area that are completely awful and would give you terrible advice. Then there are some that are very good and would help you out.

As far as guns go, shotguns for home defense are a good option but only if you are comfortable with them and train with them, same goes for pistols or ar type rifles. For handguns they are good simply because you can conceal one, carry it on you and carry it with you. I would think about if you only want to have a firearm in your home or if you want one with you at other times. If you only want one in your home you will need to think about where you will store if when you aren't home.
 
And never ever store a weapon loaded or anywhere near its ammunition unless it's got a trigger lock on it or they're both in the safe, especially if you ever have to plan anybody's child in the house. Just get that nightstand bullcrap out of your head. That's movie shit.

I gotta agree with [MENTION=84120]nevada[/MENTION] on his statement. There's no point in having a personal defense weapon if it's not loaded and ready to go at any time. The safety of any weapon regardless of what it is or what the status of it is will ALWAYS rely upon the user of that weapon. I keep a loaded pistol on my night stand every night and it's loaded and ready to go. If I hear something crazy, those few seconds it takes to load your gun could make the difference of you being in a body bag and your family being safe.

Easiest and probably safest beginner handgun would be a revolver.

No doubt the revolver is a very easy pistol to use and the mechanics of them are extremely simple. But I wouldn't call them the safest. They all boil down to the user and even a double action pistol has the same safety features as a revolver.

[MENTION=90522]GreyhoundGuy[/MENTION]

There's some good info in this thread and everyone has their own opinion on a home defense weapon. I'll give my opinion and it's just that, my opinion.

I don't prefer anything with a long barrel for home defense. I won't use a rifle or a shotgun as a primary home defense weapon. If I hear something crazy and need to grab my gun and go outside of the bedroom, I do not want a long boom stick to be the first thing I stick out of a doorway or poke around a corner. I do not want to give anyone the opportinuty to grab my firearm. As soon as they grab the barrel of the gun, that now makes it a tug of war match. I prefer a pistol over anything else because it's small and you can maneuver with it easier. When you walk through a door or come around a corner and see someone, you can easily pull your arm down and shoot from the hip as long as you're shooting from no more than a few feet away. If the person who is in your house grabs onto you, what can you do with a rifle or shotgun? Not much because you're WAY too close to that person to make a long barrel weapon affective. Now if someone comes up to you and grabs onto you in your home then put your knee of your non dominant leg up into them and create a few inches of space and shoot from your hip. These are just a few but in my opinion the most critical reasons on why I prefer a pistol. There are a few other smaller ones, you can control a pistol with one hand and keep the other hand for opening doors, using a flashlight (if you don't have one on your weapon), handling the intruder, etc. I like to keep my non dominant hand free if I need to and still be able to control my weapon.

As for which types of pistols (once again, just my opinion) I prefer springfields over glock. There are a lot of different types of pistols out there and I won't go into a lot of details on them because I don't want to write a book. But since you mentioned glocks I'll cover my opinion on them. If a glock is loaded you can only tell by the weight of the pistol if there are rounds in the magazine. You cannot tell if the glock has a round in the chamber and you cannot tell if the pistol is cocked. The springfield has a round indicator on top of the slide that lifts up to let you know that there is a round in the chamber. If the pistol is cocked then you can rub your thumb across the back of the slide and feel the pin extruding from the rear of the pistol. In my mind these are valueable indicators to tell you the status of your weapon. However, don't let these indicators create room for complacency. You should always know the status of your weapon, ALWAYS! Another advantage springfields have over a glock is the safeties. The glock pistols only have a trigger safety. My line of thinking is that if something bumps the trigger then most likely the trigger safety is going to get inadvertantly pushed in as well and will allow the pistol to fire. Springfields have a palm safety that works in line with the trigger safety. The palm safety has to be pushed AND the trigger safety has to be pushed in before the pistol will fire. If you're holding the pistol then the palm safety will be pushed in from the pressure of your palm.

I'm sure I will get some flak from some guys here that love glocks and I don't want this thread to turn into a debate as to which gun is better. You need to figure that out for yourself as to which firearm you prefer.

This is a very gun friendly forum and most everyone is more than helpful to get you pointed in the right direction. I would agree with everyone else above. Go shooting at a range or with a friend and try out a few different types of guns and see which one you feel is right for you.
 
I gotta agree with [MENTION=84120]nevada[/MENTION] on his statement. There's no point in having a personal defense weapon if it's not loaded and ready to go at any time. The safety of any weapon regardless of what it is or what the status of it is will ALWAYS rely upon the user of that weapon. I keep a loaded pistol on my night stand every night and it's loaded and ready to go. If I hear something crazy, those few seconds it takes to load your gun could make the difference of you being in a body bag and your family being safe.

I was taught that the only safe weapon is a controlled weapon. That means it's either on your person, or it's locked up/unloaded/otherwise safed.

I have children in my house, and they aren't always my children, which means I don't have control over whether they're familiar with or safe around my firearms. I have a combination trigger lock on the 12ga under my bed, and I can have it off in a little over three seconds, which is plenty fast enough. YMMV.
 
I like the idea of the revolver over the semi auto for a beginner handgun and to even better that option would be to get a S/A revolver like a Ruger New Model Blackhawk (it has a transfer bar to prevent accidental discharge), that way you have to actually pull the hammer back before it`ll fire. And too you can get it in .357 Mag which would give you the option to shoot big or little. What I mean by that is you can shoot .38 Special in a .357 Mag. Load her up with +P's until you get really good at it and then put some heavy loads in wheel a little later.

I also like the idea of the shotgun as well. What about maybe a .410 cut down? Since it`s not like the 12's and 20's it can legally be cut down if I'm not mistaken. .410's have hardly any recoil at least compared to the others. Just a thought.

As for the nightstand debacle, my 9mm resides on my nightstand while I`m in bed, there are no kids playing in my bedroom at night while I'm asleep so I think it's a safe bet it won`t get messed with by them. When kids are around though it is put away safely.
 

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