EFI and Induction Service

[Mannheim62]

My local stealership informed me that I need an EFI and Induction Service. The EFI service is $49.95 and the Induction Service is $220.00. Is there an alternative to spending the money for the EFI Service; maybe something I can buy to put into the gas tank? I'm thinking Chevon Techron Fuel System Cleaner.
Also, what the heck is an Induction Service???

 

[jrm]

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My local stealership informed me that I need an EFI and Induction Service. The EFI service is $49.95 and the Induction Service is $220.00. Is there an alternative to spending the money for the EFI Service; maybe something I can buy to put into the gas tank? I'm thinking Chevon Techron Fuel System Cleaner.
Also, what the heck is an Induction Service???

inductive service? what do they do?

 

[Mannheim62]

inductive service? what do they do?

Yes, that's what I'd like to know. What do they do?

 

[Americas High Five]

Found this on another forum: One can goes into the fuel tank, and the other two go into a service tool. The tool is pressurized using shop air and one side of it goes into the air intake while the other side of it goes to the fuel line. These services make the most noticeable difference on cars that are driven short distances or have been neglected as far as maintenance. It will basically clean out the intake system (throttle plate, valves, mass air flow sensor, piston top) and flush out the fuel injectors. Depending on the condition of your car you may or may not notice a difference after the service is done.

If i were you I'd save your money but if you are that concerned i'd buy the $5 fuel injector cleaner from the auto parts store and call it a day.

 

[kgbagent]

My local stealership informed me that I need an EFI and Induction Service. The EFI service is $49.95 and the Induction Service is $220.00. Is there an alternative to spending the money for the EFI Service; maybe something I can buy to put into the gas tank? I'm thinking Chevon Techron Fuel System Cleaner.
Also, what the heck is an Induction Service???

Run a can or 2 of BG44K.

 

[Mannheim62]

Found this on another forum: One can goes into the fuel tank, and the other two go into a service tool. The tool is pressurized using shop air and one side of it goes into the air intake while the other side of it goes to the fuel line. These services make the most noticeable difference on cars that are driven short distances or have been neglected as far as maintenance. It will basically clean out the intake system (throttle plate, valves, mass air flow sensor, piston top) and flush out the fuel injectors. Depending on the condition of your car you may or may not notice a difference after the service is done.

If i were you I'd save your money but if you are that concerned i'd buy the $5 fuel injector cleaner from the auto parts store and call it a day.

The truck seems to be running ok. I'll try the fuel injector cleaner first. I'm coming up on 200K miles so I'm pretty sure I'm due for a timing belt change and probably plugs. I'm just trying to save a little money where I can.

 

[ZiaMan]

My local stealership informed me that I need an EFI and Induction Service. The EFI service is $49.95 and the Induction Service is $220.00. Is there an alternative to spending the money for the EFI Service; maybe something I can buy to put into the gas tank? I'm thinking Chevon Techron Fuel System Cleaner.
Also, what the heck is an Induction Service???

I would stop taking your 200k mile 4runner to the dealer. They will nickel and dime you and tell you need all sorts of stuff. Have you been taking it to them all along?

For the EFI/whatever service, get some fuel injection cleaner like Techron and clean your throttle body. Tons of threads here on plugs.

Timing belt is a different story but shop around.

 

[Mannheim62]

I would stop taking your 200k mile 4runner to the dealer. They will nickel and dime you and tell you need all sorts of stuff. Have you been taking it to them all along?

For the EFI/whatever service, get some fuel injection cleaner like Techron and clean your throttle body. Tons of threads here on plugs.

Timing belt is a different story but shop around.

I totally agree with you about nickel and diming you. No I haven't been taking it to them all along. Just got some Techron, followed the instructions on the bottle so I'm good there. The issue is, where I live, it's hard to find a good mechanic I can trust as I'm relatively new to the area. I know it sounds like a cheap excuse but that's where I'm at. I will shop around before having the timing belt done.

 

[Americas High Five]

...it's hard to find a good mechanic I can trust as I'm relatively new to the area. I know it sounds like a cheap excuse but that's where I'm at. I will shop around before having the timing belt done.

Ask coworkers or see if your area has a community Facebook group and ask there. Usually someone has a mechanic their family has been going to for years and loves referring folks to them.

FYI - I recently had my timing belt, water pump, pulleys, belts, etc done at a local mechanic for $750. Local Toyota dealer wanted $1200 for timing belt and water pump only.



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[Mannheim62]

Ask coworkers or see if your area has a community Facebook group and ask there. Usually someone has a mechanic their family has been going to for years and loves referring folks to them.

FYI - I recently had my timing belt, water pump, pulleys, belts, etc done at a local mechanic for $750. Local Toyota dealer wanted $1200 for timing belt and water pump only.



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Thank you so much. I've already been asking around. Hopefully I'll hear something within the next few days. I appreciate your support.

 

[Folsom4Rnr]

My local stealership informed me that I need an EFI and Induction Service. The EFI service is $49.95 and the Induction Service is $220.00. Is there an alternative to spending the money for the EFI Service; maybe something I can buy to put into the gas tank? I'm thinking Chevon Techron Fuel System Cleaner.
Also, what the heck is an Induction Service???

Resurrecting a slightly old thread in case what I found helps someone out... I found the following 2 videos from Toyota explaining the Induction Service and a pressurized EFI cleaning. Happy viewing ...

Induction Service:


EFI Cleaning:

 

[Mannheim62]

Resurrecting a slightly old thread in case what I found helps someone out... I found the following 2 videos from Toyota explaining the Induction Service and a pressurized EFI cleaning. Happy viewing ...

Induction Service:


EFI Cleaning:

Thanks Brian; I appreciate the update.

Mike

 

[rjj130]

So took mine in for some warranty work and while it was there I had them do the oil...

They of course did their own checks and recommended this Induction Service. I had no time to talk to the service guy, but came home and could find very little on this.

So, of course found this thread... this appears for vehicles that are older/high mileage/driven hard?

I have a 15 w/ less than 30K miles. WTF?

 

[ZiaMan]

All you need is a top tier additive - BK44, Techron Concentrate, Redline SI-1 or if you are ok with mail order, look at Lube Control Fuel Power.

The only other thing to do is clean your throttle body and, if you want, MAF sensor. $300 bucks goes a long way towards a lot of other much more useful maintenance

 

[Legender]

If you're going to the dealer with a low mileage vehicle and they suggest this, some key questions...

1. What are the symptoms that lead you to believe I need this service?
2. Is this service stated in the manual as a normal maintenance activity like changing oil?
3. If I don't do this will it void my warranty?

That should just about end the discussion.
Profit loaded activity stealerships suggest to increase their profits.

 

[Mannheim62]

Thanks to everyone who replied to my post but I no longer own my 4Runner. The help I gotten on this site has been invaluable to me. I will be recommending this site to anyone I happen to cross paths with in the future.

Thanks again,

Mike

 

[snydmax]

Induction service explained

I didn’t see anybody answer the OP’s original question so here is what/why an induction service is needed in a nutshell...

Oil vapor is drawn into the intake from the crankcase via the pcv (emissions) system. This oil deposits on the throttle body and within the air passages of the intake where it leads to carbon deposits and coking as the oil breaks down. This can pose a major problem for the valvetrain on the new direct injection engines.

Anything you add to the fuel will only treat this problem “downstream” of the fuel injectors, this is why an induction service puts the chemicals into the intake, ahead of the throttle body.

You can get spray can versions from sea foam and crc etc if you want to tackle this yourself... or find a shop that offers BG and they can perform the same service as the dealer offers using BG’s proprietary chemistry.

Using a quality synthetic oil and higher octane fuels can help to reduce the impact of the crankcase vapors

Lastly, for those running any kind of forced injection, do your research before performing this service either yourself or at a shop as you dont want chunks of built up carbon flying through turbos or supercharger turbines.