Eimkieth bumper help with building it?

[sleepydad]

so I have the NBL (non body lift) version....

starting to put it together...

so far so good but as there is no real instruction or parts diagram or nothing really to follow... some phone vids from a different version of the bumper but anything helps.

for the people who have done it?

how do the wing mounts work? I did not get anything that looks like what Kieth has in his private vids? like an L bracket pre bent?

what Kieth showed
<a href="https://imgur.com/UsRoh3b"><img src="https://i.imgur.com/UsRoh3bl.png" title="source: imgur.com" /></a>

vs what I got? did you have to weld them together? I'm still thinking I got the wrong hardware packs and some parts for some other kit he makes? anybody?

<a href="https://imgur.com/pSG6AEE"><img src="https://i.imgur.com/pSG6AEEl.jpg" title="source: imgur.com" /></a>

 

[T4topher]

so I have the NBL (non body lift) version....

starting to put it together...

so far so good but as there is no real instruction or parts diagram or nothing really to follow... some phone vids from a different version of the bumper but anything helps.

for the people who have done it?

how do the wing mounts work? I did not get anything that looks like what Kieth has in his private vids? like an L bracket pre bent?

what Kieth showed
<a href="https://imgur.com/UsRoh3b"><img src="https://i.imgur.com/UsRoh3bl.png" title="source: imgur.com" /></a>

vs what I got? did you have to weld them together? I'm still thinking I got the wrong hardware packs and some parts for some other kit he makes? anybody?

<a href="https://imgur.com/pSG6AEE"><img src="https://i.imgur.com/pSG6AEEl.jpg" title="source: imgur.com" /></a>

The kit is somewhat confusing, you did get the correct brackets though. I have a bolt break down if you want me to post it as well. I got the non BL kit then decided I wanted a BL and sold the non BL brackets and bought the BL brackets lol.. I have it pretty much figured out, haven’t put it together yet though.. I’ll try to post some pics of where pieces go.

 

[T4topher]

These pictures should help a bit

 

[sleepydad]

The kit is somewhat confusing, you did get the correct brackets though. I have a bolt break down if you want me to post it as well. I got the non BL kit then decided I wanted a BL and sold the non BL brackets and bought the BL brackets lol.. I have it pretty much figured out, haven’t put it together yet though.. I’ll try to post some pics of where pieces go.

I got an email back from Kieth and yes I have the correct brackets for the non body lift version.

I burnt the x-member in this evening

<a href="https://imgur.com/BbwDNKd"><img src="https://i.imgur.com/BbwDNKdl.jpg" title="source: imgur.com" /></a>

and the carcass fits perfect with a couple of encouraging taps from the dead blow

<a href="https://imgur.com/3CFDt6n"><img src="https://i.imgur.com/3CFDt6nl.jpg" title="source: imgur.com" /></a>

but that part is pretty easy.

so now how much stuff to cut off the body... it's the part I have been dreading the most. I hate sheet metal work and it sucks. did I mention sheet metal work sucks?

 

[D'arce]

I did not see anything in the instructions about this, maybe I missed it...there is a small spot of frame material that needs to be cut out to make access to the main mounting bolts easier. You can use the bumper itself as a template. In the picture you can see the frame material behind the bumper thats partially blocking access. It made installing the lower bolts a real exercise in patience. Sorry the picture is upside down. If you have the tank installed before the bumper you basically can't get to it on the drivers side.

 

[sleepydad]

I'm lighting up the bat light here

[MENTION=28464]eimkeith[/MENTION]

could you provide some information about the side wings and how the two bracket parts are used?

thank you

<a href="https://imgur.com/rSf8lyO"><img src="https://i.imgur.com/rSf8lyOl.png" title="source: imgur.com" /></a>

 

[jkeith.w]

yep, just walked in the door from out of town; give me a few to find some images.

[I don't have any handy, so I'll head over to the shop and snap a few.]

 

[jkeith.w]

Ok, hope these help:

First, the frame extension is tacked to the wing to allow it to be bolted temporarily to the frame. The extension and wing are tabbed & slotted. You will need to enlarge the holes in the bottom of the wing enough to get your tool through them, since now the bolts will attach the extension directly to the bottom of the frame and will be embedded up into the wing (does that make sense?)

 

[jkeith.w]

Then, the washer plate (thin one, no e) can be used as a template to locate the holes that will be drilled in the frame itself and through the frame extension. It has a tab on the bottom that will align with the tab on the frame extension for proper positioning:

The hole in the frame can be enlarged to use the included crush tube if desired. The bolt that goes through the lower drilled hole (through the frame extension) will not use a crush tube.

The washer plate can be moved to the other side to properly locate the corresponding holes.

 

[jkeith.w]

When assembled, it will be like this, through the frame:

 

[jkeith.w]

I did not see anything in the instructions about this, maybe I missed it...there is a small spot of frame material that needs to be cut out to make access to the main mounting bolts easier. You can use the bumper itself as a template. In the picture you can see the frame material behind the bumper thats partially blocking access. It made installing the lower bolts a real exercise in patience. Sorry the picture is upside down. If you have the tank installed before the bumper you basically can't get to it on the drivers side.

That's a great tip for the BL bumper - one that I keep forgetting to note. It doesn't apply to the NBL version, unfortunately - the frame extension doesn't have the corresponding notch (although I may look at adding it in the new run, possibly.)

 

[sleepydad]

When assembled, it will be like this, through the frame:

I have the F2 bag so I think I have the 90 mil M10's that you spec'ed

what length is the crush tube?

I did not get anything that looked like that in my hardware? I have some DOM tube but I think it matches up with M12 so if that is for M10 bolts? I can source some tube locally, the frame is pretty thin I like to weld in a tube otherwise the frame crushes super easy.

do you have any pictures of how much body sheet metal needs to be removed? and the locations?

I have the x-member burnt in and I put a couple of coats of DTM epoxy on it then some chassis paint over it. My bent piece was messed up in shipping once I fitted it on the truck it was wayyyyy off. I have kind of got it bent back but I will have to see if the side wings help get it back into the correct shape.

it's going to be a ***** to paint this kind of setup.

 

[jkeith.w]

I have the F2 bag so I think I have the 90 mil M10's that you spec'ed

what length is the crush tube?

I did not get anything that looked like that in my hardware? I have some DOM tube but I think it matches up with M12 so if that is for M10 bolts? I can source some tube locally, the frame is pretty thin I like to weld in a tube otherwise the frame crushes super easy.

60mm, trim to fit as needed.

do you have any pictures of how much body sheet metal needs to be removed? and the locations?

both on the website and in the v11 installation videos (you got those links, right? - that's where the screenshot up top comes from) I'll be updating those videos when I get to the final design/variations - takes me a few days worth of work to film & edit, since I'm DIY. In the interim, I'm working with installers via email, mostly.

I have the x-member burnt in and I put a couple of coats of DTM epoxy on it then some chassis paint over it. My bent piece was messed up in shipping once I fitted it on the truck it was wayyyyy off. I have kind of got it bent back but I will have to see if the side wings help get it back into the correct shape.

it's going to be a ***** to paint this kind of setup.

that's one of the reasons I recommend tacking everything first - if you realize that you didn't pre-paint the backside of a component (or if something is in the wrong position) it's much easier to back up a step than if it were fully welded.

we're also having email correspondence, yes? - I'm not good with who has what username on the forums, probably should start tracking that data for customer service reasons..