Engine issues

Fed1985

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Is I have had this 2008 4runner for 4 years and every time I change the oil I lose low end power for about 3 days. I take it to the dealership every time and they have no clue what's wrong with it.

Car-
2008 Toyota 4runner sr5 4.0 v6 4x4
Miles-
Just over 94,000
Service-
I have done everything to spec and ontime according to the manual
Engine oil-
Always use valvoline 20w-30 and on this last oil change yesterday I used full synthetic and still have problems.

Does anyone heve any suggestions before I trade it in on a tundra?
 
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Is I have had this 2008 4runner for 4 years and every time I change the oil I lose low end power for about 3 days. I take it to the dealership every time and they have no clue what's wrong with it.

Car-
2008 Toyota 4runner sr5 4.0 v6 4x4
Miles-
Just over 94,000
Service-
I have done everything to spec and ontime according to the manual
Engine oil-
Always use valvoline 20w-30 and on this last oil change yesterday I used full synthetic and still have problems.

Does anyone heve any suggestions before I trade it in on a tundra?

Maybe the v8 is different but I use 5w-30 which would thinner on a cold start.
 
Im sure op means xw-20 or xw-30. Ive been running 5w40/15w40 for the past 60k no problems. Aussie spec says 15w40 is fine for 1gr and I am sure the stout 2uz is the same. I would look at your pcv sucking oil down the mani while the crankcase is full. I notice my can fills the fastest the first 2k on a new oil change.
 
Are you resetting anything when you do the oil? How about the dealer?
What's your driving style?

Have you tried to punch it hard when there's no low end? See if you can 'wake it up'.

I don't know if using a higher viscosity would cause that bad of low end loss, especially for only a few days.
 
Sorry. I ment to say 5w-30. And yes I tries to punch it off th line but I can sprint faster than that. And yes I have tried un plugging the battery and also tryed using seafoam.
But still runs shitty
 
Is I have had this 2008 4runner for 4 years and every time I change the oil I lose low end power for about 3 days. I take it to the dealership every time and they have no clue what's wrong with it.

Car-
2008 Toyota 4runner sr5 4.0 v6 4x4
Miles-
Just over 94,000
Service-
I have done everything to spec and ontime according to the manual
Engine oil-
Always use valvoline 20w-30 and on this last oil change yesterday I used full synthetic and still have problems.

Does anyone heve any suggestions before I trade it in on a tundra?

There is something seriously odd about this statement...

First off, what do you mean you lose low end torque? Do you mean you "THINK" its got a bit less power off the line, or is the vehicle actually stalling; unable to accelerate/get up to speed the same? There is a big differences between "Butt Dyno" and real performance issue and will help direct diagnostics between engine and transmission.

I need some more information on the vehicle and its service history to try and get an idea of what could be causing the condition.

~Where do you live?
~How long has this "low end torque loss" condition been occurring?
~How do you qualify the "low end torque loss?"
~When was the transmission fluid last changed?
~Was the proper WS Transmission fluid used?
~Do you have any MIL (Malfunction Indicator Lamp, also known as "Check Engine Lamp") on currently or any time in the past?
~Have you done any other major and/or minor service(s) to the vehicle since owning it?

Hopefully we can help you out and figure out what is going and hopefully it hasn't caused any lasting damage.

Post Note-
If you are resetting the computer every time (i.e. leaving it disconnected for at least 10minutes) you're resetting the learned values in the vehicle and it WILL perform poorly until it relearns proper values again, i.e. it will idle poorly until you let it sit about 5-10minutes to relearn proper idle; the transmission will shift differently and so on.
 
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Resolution: Stop changing your oil.

There's no logical reason that this is happening, especially for a brief few days.:crazy:

Who's changing the oil? You or a shop? Are you disconnecting the battery WHEN you change the oil? If so, stop.
 
Maf is tits same with the knn filter.

Here is my done checklist for the last 2,000 miles
-Rear/front/transfer/tranny with royal purple-done by toyota
-timing belt-done by toyota
-NGK spark plugs-done by me
-knn filter-done by me
-oil/filter-done by me yesterday
-maf is clean-checked today

My buddy brought over his computer thing and I'd didn't give a code.

-94,247.6 miles on the car
-location is Oregon
-elevation is sea level
-owned the car sence jan of 2009 car had 36,000 miles on it
And yes it's a certified used car and still under warranty
-I notice the loss of power after every change sence I bought it
-the loss in power is all low end 500rpm-3000rpm
-and all bulbs are working.
 
the maf has 2 tiny wires that can get dirty on certain air filters, are u spraying the right area? first pic i saw on a video is that red thing on the side of the maf, everyone though that needs to be sprayed clean, but it was the actual hole inside that has the wires need to be sprayed.
 
You stated you have a 4.0 v6 but then posted you changed the timing belt... They don't have a belt, they have a chain. ???
Also, if it's under warranty, why isn't toyota fixing it? You stated they don't know what's wrong which I'm guessing means they reproduced the issue, they need to figure it out.
 
Sorry. Serpentine belt. An the dealership sucks
Last time I went in the hooked it up to the computer and said its fine but they can notice there is something wrong. And didn't do anything to fix it. So at that point if gave up on the dealership.
 
regardless of whether they suck or not, if they are the only ones around, you are sort of in a bind. Keep taking it back to them so it's documented there's a problem that can't be fixed (worst case - lemon law maybe?).

Otherwise, they will keep playing around, you will run out of warranty time, and will be left holding the bag! This could be VERY costly, especially if something is also getting damaged without your immediate knowledge while having these issues.

And as always, if not happy with their service, take it higher (corporate). Tell them you are going to switch to Ferd or something crazy.
 
Ya I made an appointment for today so hopefully they might find it. And ya I have about 6,000 miles left on the warranty that and it's about to be paid off. So worst case scenario I might up grade to a new 4runner/tundra.
Thanks again everyone for the help/pointers!
 

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