Fell in love with another SUV this weekend.....

Northof49

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Had a road trip to go on and the Toyota boys suggested I drive a '06 Sequoia Limited, as they had a customer who wanted to view it where we were headed. I'd driven a few of these years ago, but they don't sell particularly well around here so not a ton. Considering the chassis is over 6 years old, and the motor/tranny setup is nearly identical to the lighter, smaller, sportier, more toy-equipped 4Runners/GX470's with whom I'm very familiar, I really didn't expect anything too special. Boy was I wrong; these things are an absolutely kickass vehicle.

The piece of highway we needed to conquer was a 4 hour (one way) stretch of 2-lane "highway," complete with 2 rugged mountain passes and pavement recently ravaged by a record BC winter. The Sequoia simply ate up bumps, road imperfections and miles unlike anything I've ever driven. Road, engine and wind noise were basically non-existent....I've driven almost every truck and car-based SUV out there, and this was tops. I considered my 05 4Runner and its big brother GX470 to be very quiet and relaxed vehicles, and couldn't believe how much better this was. 50mph felt like 30mph in a Camry, and 80mph felt exactly like 50. The only way to introduce noise to the cabin was either through the sunroof or the stereo. Even at WOT passing uphill, the engine was audible....but that's about it. You'd swear the thing had an electric motor driving at anything less than WFO.

The seats were extremely comfortable, and the pedals and steering wheel sit exactly where they need to be. On the high side of 6'2" 220lbs, many seats come up short for me, but these were spot-on, 4 hours of straight driving and I wasn't the least bit tired or sore. More headroom than most other sunroof equipped vehicles is nice too. A 4Runner or a car-based SUV corners flatter, but the ride in the Sequoia more than makes up for it. On crappy pavement, most vehicle "nibble" around, in this thing you could have a drink, a snack, check your email, then look back at the road and it's still going dead straight. I've driven MUCH faster cars on this same trip, yet this time was one of my best ET's ever, as it cruises so non-chalantly at speed, you never feel stressed. The 4.7 V8 is not as snappy as in the 4Runner (where it is downright fast), but it was easily strong enough for every stupid, uphill, 2-lane pass I could throw at it :D

Styling wise, this example was a white Limited with pewter-ish wheels, and it simply looked awesome IMO. The lines are more rounded and classic than many modern SUV's trying hard to be "new age." I honestly couldn't believe how many random comments we got on the vehicle throughout the weekend. Parked out in front of classy restaurants with lots full of Escalades, Lincolns, jacked S-dutys, BMW's, etc....and still people would say "Wow, that is a REALLY nice vehicle!" Everyone who rode in was extremely impressed....from a few business friends to some party girls, everyone just loved the roomy interior, buttery smooth yet solid ride and good looks.

I consider myself a fairly picky driver, and it's rare to find a vehicle where everything just feels "right" from the get-go. It was great to appreciate a product that works exactly as it should; despite the vast number of autos on the market, this is a surprising rarity. With a re-design due for 08, there should be some great deals coming up on leftover and slightly-used Sequoias. The new model should be awesome if they stick close to the current formula, but I would have 0 hesitations jumping on any 05+ that was a good deal. Cars come and go very easily for me, but I was genuinely disappointed to return this one. Toyota has had many under-appreciated models throughout the years, and this is definitely one of them.

As a testament to the noise levels and ride quality delivered by this thing....on the way home my friend fell asleep for 3.5 hours straight. On a road that looks like this, averaging 15mph over the speed and corner limits, that's damn impressive IMO:


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Yup, Sequoias are awesome. After all these years, the styling is still clean and fresh. I test drove one when I bought my 4Runner. I was thoroughly impressed with the ride and isolation as you were and LOVED the captain's chairs. But overall, I felt it was a bit too big for me and I really dislike column shifters. It'll be interesting to see how Toyota improves it with the new generation.

Thanks for posting those pics, the scenery is amazing.
 
Great write-up North. I've always loved the Sequoia but like TKR it's a bit big for my dd (checking in at a whopping 5'5"). I'm really excited to see how it looks once they match it to the new Tundra. I see a lot of Sequoias driving around my area. They look absolutely beautiful in black but I couldn't imagine trying to keep that thing shining.
 
Yea man I know what you mean. I haven't personally driven it but a friend of mine has a 2001 SR5,and tows a 7,200# trailer regularly. That thing is so comfortable for an SUV its unreal. Even while towing it doesn't even strain, and the wind resistance is a bitch at 70 with the trailer, yet he still gets 9 MPG with that. When he tows hes in O/D OFF and at 3400 RPM, which is right at the max torque, which may explain why he can keep the speed and still get good millage. I have so much trust in the Toyota V8's and V6's because I know they an handle anything. It also has quite a bit of ground clearance too. That also reminds me. I did some hand calculation about the 4Runner V8 vs. the Sequoia V8 towing. Besides wheelbase, the 4Runner actually has a better towing capacity, but not by much.the Sequoia weighs a mere 595# less than the 4Runner fully loaded(Both are), the differences at the Toyota website for towing capacity is much more. 800#, so why the vast difference?
 
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The Sequoia's are nice, no doubt. Anything you guys would do differently for the new one? I love the performance but I think I'll like a new interior. I think it's kinda bland. And, I think I'd like to see it look a little more different than the Tundra. The old Sequoia's looked too much like the tundra, IMO.
 
At the same time that we bought my '06 4runner, My dad bought an '06 Sequoia Limited that looks exactly like the one you have pictured. I have to say, the Sequoia is much more comfortable to drive/ride in on long trips. The captains chairs are AMAZING and make me feel like I am sitting in a lazy boy recliner back at my house.

Do not get me wrong, I love my 4runner...it is perfect for what I need. But the Sequoia is definitely underrated

To answer the previous question about towing, the 4runner and the sequoia have the same V8 engine. I think that the only difference is that the V8 sequoia weighs about 700 lbs more than the V8 4runner. The difference in towing capacity is only 800 lbs between the two, so I would assume that the only thing keeping the sequoia from towing as much as the 4runner is the extra weight.
 
The sales manager at the dealership I frequent said the new body style/interior of the Sequoia would match that of the new Tundra. Not sure how reliable his info is, but it makes sense to me.
 
As for towing, I would assume the 4R would have more all-out grunt and pull hills/off the line better. The Sequoia, with its additional weight and wheelbase, would feel more confident and planted with less sway at highway speeds while yanking heavier loads.

Some of you mentioned the size being a deterant for DD'ing....in 95% of my driving, I never noticed it taking up any additional road space. Turning circle was much tighter than I would have assumed. Didn't have my tape measure, but I'd be surprized if it was much different than a 4R's. The only time I honestly realized I was piloting a larger vehicle was looking back while reversing.
 
The 2008 Sequoia is expected to be based on the Tundra platform with the new 5.7L V8 powerplant. It is supposed to be more than 8" longer than the current model and much more refined. Towing should be no problem for the 2008 (where for the 2002-2007 models it is rated at 6200 for 4WD models).

Nice write up North!
 
My dad has an 02 Sequoia and he loves it. We take it on our annual fishing trip to Arkansas, 4 guys in it for about 16 hours of driving and sleeping. Very nice to fold down the back seats and lay out 2 air mat for 2 adults to sleep. Definitely a road tripping vehicle.
 
Nice write up on it . Its great that you were able to take it on a nice long ride to really get the feel of it instead of the normal test drive around the block type thing. It gives much more appreciation for the vehicle. NICE JOB ON THE REPORT !!

I think they are really nice trucks/SUV's . Its basically an enclosed Tundra. I've always liked them. Although I like the length of them and hopefully the will make them in a regular length and extended length to compete with the Tahoe and Suburban.

There is one ( black ) that runs around here that is set up very nice. Looks like a slight lift, with some nice BFG's on it and looks like one of those Randy Ellis design light bars with a few off road light , pretty cool looking .
 
The bigger the vehicle the better for my tastes but I don't have the clearance in my garage for anything taller than the 4Runner. As it is, there is a mere 2 inches of clearance between the roof rack and the garage door opener bracket.
 
Seqouia's are nice.. that was the first SUV i rode when i came here in the US about 6 years ago and it was very smooth and comfortable...
 
Definetly a nice truck but simply too big for me and defiently not really a trail cruiser w/o some mods and it does have the soccer mom label attached to it.
 
Glad you enjoyed it. But let's look at the FACTS:

I tow. The extra weight (~500#) and larger size (more aero drag) of the Sequoia are going to result in diminished mpg and less available power @ highway speeds. That's the last thing I need!

If I were carrying a large family or needed huge space for luggage, I'd certainly consider a Seq, considering traditional Toyota reliability/durability. For towing what I tow (2300# trailer with 3200# Porsche GT3), taking only one passenger, I feel the 4Runner is unsurpassed!

I frankly feel Toyota has made a mistake by limiting the Seq to the 4Runner powertrain. IMHO, the Seq and 4Runner need an optional 250 bhp, 450 lb/ft direct injection (i.e., modern, quiet, smooth, like our M-B CDI) diesel option.

Regards.
 
No arguement....but on a road trip I found the Sequoia simply a more comfortable and stable vehicle, with any number of passengers. The 4Runner is already awesome in both regards, but it really is a noteworthy amount better. As stated at the beginning, I didn't expect this of it and was learly of the same drivetrain in a heavier vehicle.

Didn't measure mileage, but I would say about 2 mpg less than my V8 4R would have done on the same trip. No arguement that a V8 4Runner will show tailights to it in any speed contest. Towing should be a little quicker in a 4R, but I'm willing to bet money that the added stability of the Seq would more than make up for it in the overall experience.

No way would I downgrade the Seq's or 4R's amazingly low NVH levels, pleasant sounds, broad powerband and awesome performance with a diesel. 5.7L gasser for me please....unless they had a VERY serious diesel to compete with the D-max and Cummins crowd, that could be interesting.
 
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khaug said:

I frankly feel Toyota has made a mistake by limiting the Seq to the 4Runner powertrain. IMHO, the Seq and 4Runner need an optional 250 bhp, 450 lb/ft direct injection (i.e., modern, quiet, smooth, like our M-B CDI) diesel option.

Regards.

Which powertrain that Toyota makes on their US vehicles would you want to see? 4.7L was the biggest engine up until this year available for US vehicles from Toyota. Current generation of Sequoia has been around since 2002 (I believe). Like I said earlier, the rumors from Toyota are that the Sequoia will continue to share the platform and powertrain with Tundra which means it will have the 5.7L V8 soon.
 
I purchased my 06 4runner a few months ago after selling my Tundra. I didn't even consider the Sequoia due to the fact that it would be getting a total makeover soon, thus quickly leaving me with the "older version" which could hurt resale. It all worked out, this V8 4runner is like a sports car compared to my clumsy TRD 4x4 Tundra! :biggrin2:
 
Nice write up on the Seq, I have never driven one but I think they look a little "soft" around the edges. IMO I like the more defined shape and lines of the 4R.
 
I sometimes confuse the Sequoia as a 4Runner, especially both 06+ models. Both look similar at a distance.

The 5.7L going into the Sequoia? So what happens to the Land Cruiser? I've read reports the legendary LC is going down. Toyota should kill the Sequoia name. Call the replacement as a Land Cruiser and sell it at the Sequoia price range.
 

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