Final Decision needed - lifting

[kormaster]

Current mod = WAAG Brush guard07 v6 SE.

Goal - NO off-road. 99% on-road. Looking for better quality ride on freeway and stability. Current XREAS system is HORRIBLE and dangerous.

OK, so after 6 month of research on all type of lift ideas, i decided to go with:
1) FJ CRUISER SHOCKS (Tokico blacks) & SPRINGS
2) DAYSTAR LEVELING 2.5/1.5
3) Spidertrax 1.25 in wheel spacers
4) BFG 275/70/17 --> is that a 32 in setup?


Now, problem is that 2.5 in DS kit actually will lift much higher with FJ springs. So im afraid that front end will be higher than the rear (and not leveled).

So i could order the DS 1 in front kit (euy - forum member's recent ride is 1/1.5 with FJ setup - but he isnt running 275 setup), but will the tire fit?? I dont mind messing around with the fender liners but i may lose my OEM mud flaps.


Please help. I got all the parts with me except the "potential" DS 1 inch i may need to order.

Thanks!

-David-

 

[gaterose]

4) BFG 275/70/17 --> is that a 32 in setup?

Yes, 275s are 32.2" tall, you can also get 255/75R17 they are 32.1" but are about an inch thinner (surprisingly, no they don't look like pizza cutters).

I would also like to know about the 275s fitting though, I've been debating among 255/75, 265/70, & 275/70 myself and have close to the same setup

 

[kormaster]

i think 275 fits with wheel spacers and some trimming with FJ setup with slight spacer leveling kit.

Bigger dilema is my Daystar kit of 2.5/1.5 Im just afraid it is going to lift the front way more than the rear with FJ shocks/spring setup.

 

[BamBam]

Just spitballin' here... but if the Xreas is bugging you and you feel like it is dangerous and loose (I'm assuming that is part of the problem) then do you really want to go higher up and change the center of gravity.

I only ask because I went through a similar thing with my 2001 Trooper. I loved it... but it was so wobbly on the freeway. I ended up going slightly larger on tires and lifting it just about an inch and a half and putting on the highest quality shocks I could find. After that I was absolutely terrified. It literally felt like it was going to tip over on the freeway.

You might want to check and make sure it's not the suspension that's doing it. Maybe a tire is out of round, or a body mount gone bad. I once had an engine mount that went bad and found out the weight of my car was shifting all over the place and I felt like it was completely dangerous (of course it was). But I had no idea it was the engine shifting.

Good luck and let us know what you decide and how it works out. I'm in a bit of a similar situation, but I LOVE my factory ride and don't want to deviate too far from it, but I want a bit higher stance and for it to look cooler and handle the offroad areas better. But I don't want to lose the positives the 4Runner already has.

 

[Maz]

Goal - NO off-road. 99% on-road.

-David-

With no off road and 99% on road....where you driving the other 1% of the time?

eace:

David if you think the Xreas system is lousy...raising your rig is probably going to make you hate it. Raising your center of gravity puts more pressure on the shocks and gives the "lean over effect" more leverage. Yes it's going to cost more, but perhaps you should at least investigate the possibility of just going with coilovers. That will give you the lift and improve your drive.

 

[euy]

i think 275 fits with wheel spacers and some trimming with FJ setup with slight spacer leveling kit.

Bigger dilema is my Daystar kit of 2.5/1.5 Im just afraid it is going to lift the front way more than the rear with FJ shocks/spring setup.

david,

the 275's are only 32.2. other members have gotten 32.1 tires on with no issues using FJ springs and 1/2" spacer and no wheel spacer. so there should be no issues with you running them.

you know what my truck looks like. its pretty simple, the larger spacer that you have will raise your truck more than mine. if you like the way my truck sits i would think that running the same lift spacers that i am would yield very similar results. putting the 2.5 front spacer in will definetly be higher than my truck, how much higher i can't say since i haven't used them.

-e

 

[kormaster]

Thanks everyone for you feedback.

1% off-roading - you are gonna laugh... like big bear camping.. once a year type of light trails.. LOL

Euy - Yes, I do like the setup of your car. I am going to ditch 2.5 front DS spacer and get a 1 inch one.. Found one for 39.99.


Most the the "wobbling" is really from soft suspension setup i believe. I really dont know if XREAS is worth keeping. I dont think it does much in stabilizing lateral shifting. FJ setup seems to be a cheaper "test route"

If i dont like it, then ill go to OME or Coil setup. I just dont want to jump into coil setup without trying what most FJ setup guys are raving about.


So, i think im going to get 275/70/17 BFG KO AT or GYSA tires on this setup...


:frog:

 

[90scman]

i just got the goodyears and i love them so far, i got 255 75 r 17 and they look good. with the 275 they will not fit as easy, i put the 255 on with out doing doing any mods. i payed 111 per tire from tire rack.

 

[8086bruce]

Got pics 90scman?

 

[kormaster]

i just got the goodyears and i love them so far, i got 255 75 r 17 and they look good. with the 275 they will not fit as easy, i put the 255 on with out doing doing any mods. i payed 111 per tire from tire rack.

Thats a damn good price!!!!!!!

275s are ridiculously more... almost not worth the extra for 10mm width gain from stock setup.

 

[zimm]

Skip the FJ stuff and just get a set of coilovers for the front. I'm running ICON- they are AWESOME. The ride on the road is awesome. They soak up everything, I can accelerate over speed bumps, the truck handles BETTER even though it's higher. And they are adjustable. You can leave the rear stock and use the coil overs to level out the truck. Or go with Icon's 2" rear springs and run the fronts as they come (3 inch lift). I'm doing that and running 265's, but looking to go for 285's next. Ditching the XREAS was a great move for me.

Compared to a stock truck

 

[Autbond]

If you are going to do a full coilover replacement then you should probably buy the overland Warehouse Radflo kit, the main thing it has over the ICON kit is that it has been specifically valved and timed for our trucks. There are a lot of people on here that have this kit and love it. I am ordering mine next week.

 

[chaz]

ya, icons & radflow are great, but cost alot, & remember that they will most likely need to be rebuilt every 3-5 years. depending of course on how u drive, & mileage put on, so unless ur young enough to do it yourself or have enough $ to send them in for a rebuild, you'll need to find a shop to do them. personally, id rather find something with a lifetime warrenty that i wont have to touch for as long as i have the vec. although, if the driving is 100% on raod, they may never need to be rebuilt at all.

 

[Autbond]

ya, icons & radflow are great, but cost alot, & remember that they will most likely need to be rebuilt every 3-5 years. depending of course on how u drive, & mileage put on, so unless ur young enough to do it yourself or have enough $ to send them in for a rebuild, you'll need to find a shop to do them. personally, id rather find something with a lifetime warrenty that i wont have to touch for as long as i have the vec. although, if the driving is 100% on raod, they may never need to be rebuilt at all.

Yea, I think the main reason they have to be rebuilt is for the guys that are hauling a** out in the desert.

 

[Autbond]

Hmmmmm, let's see.... the FJ stuff is typically free. The Icon stuff is over $3000. Which one shall I try first and see if I like it or not? :shrug:

Icon stage 3-5 are over $3000 but not stage 1 and 2. Stage 1 is about $1400.

 

[8086bruce]

see if you can find trail teams or off road fj stuff with the bilstein shocks. I found mine on the fjc forum for 200 shipped to my door.