2021nightshade4x4
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The look of amazement on my face when I learned dealers don’t use factory parts and fluids in their regular service offerings but they sure as hell SELL them at their parts counter!
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first oil change - new 4runner - before 10k?
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The look of amazement on my face when I learned dealers don’t use factory parts and fluids in their regular service offerings but they sure as hell SELL them at their parts counter!
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Given what they charge for an oil change, using unbranded bulk oil is the most irritating.
Most good dealers will use all OEM parts except for some of the economy Toyota YZZ stuff like brake pads and the SightLine wipers. I believe some dealers will offer the higher cost brake pads as an option.
I've heard of dealers using non-Toyota parts and am surprised the franchise agreement allows for that.
I do know that the Toyo oil contains more MolyD than the regular Mobil1
Google it, it's a very, very good lube by itself.
how many of them reported 300K miles on odometer?
Whippersnapper02
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I'm sure a lot.
Predatorsniper2005
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I have a 22 ORP, I changed the oil in the first 2,500 miles for piece of mind I guess, get those new engine items out...lol
I'm a big fan of early changes on a new engine, shooting for 1000 for the first one. It's a good "just in case" for assembly materials.
Highest wear on most engines comes during break in, so usually hit 2500, 5000 then 10000, if for nothing else than to check the filter.
For differentials, 15k for first, then every 50 or 100k depending on what lube is used.
Transmissions, had lots, 30k pan drain (or drop for other manufacturers) and refill and not one failure since I started driving in the 70s.
Don't forget power steering, turkey baster drain and fill every 30k.
Highest wear on most engines comes during break in, so usually hit 2500, 5000 then 10000, if for nothing else than to check the filter.
For differentials, 15k for first, then every 50 or 100k depending on what lube is used.
Transmissions, had lots, 30k pan drain (or drop for other manufacturers) and refill and not one failure since I started driving in the 70s.
Don't forget power steering, turkey baster drain and fill every 30k.
2022T4R_CT
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The Car Care Nut does a good video on this. He is changing the motor on a 1 owner, dealer maintained Camry (if I remember correctly), with about 160K miles. He said it is the result if 10k oil change intervals, and low quality oil used at the dealerships. Apparently that minimum recommended service interval is what is needed to make it past your 3/36 or 5/60 factory powertrain warranty. If you want 300k, do the 5k interval, and yes, do a "break in" oil change a thousand miles in or so. Care Care Nut is a Toyota Master Diagnostic Technician, btw.
2022T4R_CT
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And here's the video, for those interested:
Here's Why Toyota Engines Consume Oil. Tear down and Repair. - YouTube
Here's Why Toyota Engines Consume Oil. Tear down and Repair. - YouTube
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My kid has a 2022 Camry & he says that his owners manual calls for 5000 mile oil change intervals with full synthetic. I'm not sure why the difference between the Camry & our 4R's, but I do 10,000 mile OCI on my 4R with the OEM filter & Toyota branded oil. Toyota engineers would NOT recommend a 10,000 OCI if it wasn't safe. That is just the plain hard truth.
2022T4R_CT
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At least you are using the right oil. That seems to be the consensus view in 10k mile oil changes. The quality of the oil is essential.
IslandJim
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Have been changing my oil about every 3.000 miles.
Observant forum members pointed me to the manual which states use only synthetic oil and change oil every 10,000 miles or once a year.
Changing mine once a year equates to about 3,000 miles as I just turned over 10,000 miles after 3 years.
Can't say that changing my oil more often would be more beneficial in my situation.
Observant forum members pointed me to the manual which states use only synthetic oil and change oil every 10,000 miles or once a year.
Changing mine once a year equates to about 3,000 miles as I just turned over 10,000 miles after 3 years.
Can't say that changing my oil more often would be more beneficial in my situation.
MidniteTRD
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worth keeping in mind that a 10k OCI is only to be considered when basically driving these things around like commuters. Toyota makes it clear in their manual that any heavy cargo and/or towing, usage of cargo carriers (added drag), extending idling (how many of us sit in heavy traffic) and short trips are essentially considered "severe use" and cut that OCI in half.
Toyota engineers wouldn't make that a caveat, in writing, if it wasn't applicable.
You'll find all that info in your Warranty & Maintenance Guide on page 38 (T-MMS-214Runner.pdf)
I am well aware of what is written in the manual & I also don't haul heavy, use a rooftop cargo carrier or tow.
kenwilliams0803
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I'd go 5k if you are a normal commuter type of person.
I go 7500 but I am like 90% highway miles with no traffic.
Just rolled 170K. No issues to speak of.
I go 7500 but I am like 90% highway miles with no traffic.
Just rolled 170K. No issues to speak of.
MidniteTRD
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sure - wasn't trying to single you out or anything, its just something that seems to get overlooked often by many owners.
Its all good ! I didn't mean to sound like a know it all.
