Four 3rd gens caravanning--mileage results

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Four of us with 3rd gens headed south from Northern California down to the Mojave Desert for a weekend of wheeling. We all caravanned together, on the same roads at the same speed and did nothing to try and eek-out mileage (no drafting, etc.) The results were not what I expected.

Highway driving--(1) is heading south, (2) is mileage heading north to home
1999 4R - 0.0" lift, auto/V6, 265/75R16 ATs - (1) 24.2 mpg, (2) 22 mpg
1997 4R - 2.5" lift, auto/V6, 265/70R16 ATs - (1) 22 mpg, (2) 20.0 mpg
1999 4R - 1.0" lift, 5sp/V6, 265/75R16 ATs, aftmkt frt bumper - (1) 20.8 mpg, (2) 18.6 mpg
2000 4R - 2.5" lift, 5sp/SC V6, 265/75R16 ATs, Yakima rack - (1) 20.7 mpg, (2) 18.6 mpg

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Our first surprise was that the automatics returned better highway mileage. I think it's mostly due to cruising RPMs. We were driving around around 72 MPH on the first leg of our trip and the 2 5-speed 4Runners were turning around 2700 RPMs while the auto 4Runners were at ~2200 RPMs with 265/75R16s and a little over 2300 RPMs with 265/70R16s. On the return trip we had a strong headwind for much of the way home and our average speed was higher at between 75 and 80 MPH, thus why the reduced economy. Our tankfull of offroad driving produced nearly identical mileage numbers.

This was not a huge surprise but the lifted and supercharged 4Runner got exactly the same mileage as the lesser lifted naturally-aspirated truck (both were 5speeds) with the exact same size and brand of tires (BFG ATs).

I think the flat highway driving put the automatic 4Runners in their sweetspot--cruising with the torque converter locked up and at an optimal RPM for mileage. The autos must be returning better mileage solely due to the reduction in cruising RPMs (2300 RPMs vs my 2700 RPMs), which makes me wonder if the step up to a 285/75R16 all terrain tire would affect my highway mileage as much as the auto guys claim. Regardless, I thought the mileage results were interesting.
 
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That's nice to know that a power adder like the SC had no detrimental affect on MPG. Thanks for sharing.
 
That's nice to know that a power adder like the SC had no detrimental affect on MPG. Thanks for sharing.

I first learned that years ago when a few of us caravanned over the Sierra Nevada Mountains and the supercharged truck got better mileage than all of us. That did nothing to help me not want one. :) Since adding mine, my mileage is the same, except when I do a lot of high elevation or mountain driving I actually get better mileage with the SC than I did without it.
 
Highway driving--(1) is heading south, (2) is mileage heading north to home
1999 4R - 0.0" lift, auto/V6, 265/75R16 ATs - (1) 24.2 mpg, (2) 22 mpg
1997 4R - 2.5" lift, auto/V6, 265/70R16 ATs - (1) 22 mpg, (2) 20.0 mpg
1999 4R - 1.0" lift, 5sp/V6, 265/75R16 ATs, aftmkt frt bumper - (1) 20.8 mpg, (2) 18.6 mpg
2000 4R - 2.5" lift, 5sp/SC V6, 265/75R16 ATs, Yakima rack - (1) 20.7 mpg, (2) 18.6 mpg

Well, that makes sense because from Norcal to Socal is all downhill, and Socal to Norcal is uphill. :D
 
I first learned that years ago when a few of us caravanned over the Sierra Nevada Mountains and the supercharged truck got better mileage than all of us. That did nothing to help me not want one. :) Since adding mine, my mileage is the same, except when I do a lot of high elevation or mountain driving I actually get better mileage with the SC than I did without it.

Do you have any other supporting mods to go with the charger?

Great info by the way. Really cool to see.
 
Didn't the 4Runners come with 2 different gears 430s and 410s? It'd be interesting to see if that had any effect on the different mpg readings.
 
The auto transmissions have a lower overdrive than the manuals, which would explain why they got better MPG's while cruising on the highway, assuming same gear ratio.

One thing to remember is the type of fuel - since the supercharger needs to burn premium, which will typically result in better MPG's itself since the timing can be advanced a little more. What fuel did everyone else use?
 
The auto transmissions have a lower overdrive than the manuals, which would explain why they got better MPG's while cruising on the highway, assuming same gear ratio.

The transmission and final drive ratio on the autos is higher, but the diffs themselves are geared lowered. The two manuals are both 4.10, the 97 Limited Auto w/e-locker is 4.30 and I think the stock 99 auto is 4.30 but I'm not 100% certain since it's a low-end model.

One thing to remember is the type of fuel - since the supercharger needs to burn premium, which will typically result in better MPG's itself since the timing can be advanced a little more. What fuel did everyone else use?

I'm sure everyone else ran 87 octane.

I always wonder how certain modifications effect fuel economy, i.e., bumpers, tire choice, roof racks, skid plating, etc. I really wish we would have had two more trucks traveling with us to compare results--maybe a bone stock one with no mods and another one on 285/75R16 all terrains.
 
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I first learned that years ago when a few of us caravanned over the Sierra Nevada Mountains and the supercharged truck got better mileage than all of us. That did nothing to help me not want one. :) Since adding mine, my mileage is the same, except when I do a lot of high elevation or mountain driving I actually get better mileage with the SC than I did without it.

What is high elevation for you?

For example, I live between 3,800 and 5,500 feet all the time, and even go higher sometimes. Wonder if 4K feet would be enough to get better gas mileage with a SC?
 
What is high elevation for you?

For example, I live between 3,800 and 5,500 feet all the time, and even go higher sometimes. Wonder if 4K feet would be enough to get better gas mileage with a SC?

I live at sealevel but most of the passes around me top-out at 8,000 ft. I would never consider a supercharger as a good investment for fuel economy, it's just that it doesn't negatively affect efficiency unless you drive it like you stole it. You also have to run premium fuel. But the sound of that supercharger this past weekend echoing off the canyon walls while I was a full throttle down in a dry wash...priceless!
 
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4.30's were only available with the elocker ;)

My 4Runner is the green one in the original post. When I bought it, it did not have a e locker yet had 4.30's (5 speed). 4:30's made the e locker swap easy as I found an e locker from a 5 speed Tacoma.

A majority of the highway drive we did was one I do about once a month and I usually return 22 mpg with a max of 25 mpg. The main reason for my lower numbers this trip was the increased speed and headwind coming home.

I've recently removed my Yakima roof rack and have seen a slight bump in highway mileage, with the exception of this trip. I only have a few tanks through it but have several longer trips and loaded camping in the next month so I'll be sure to take notes. I had a Yakima roof rack because I carried bikes on the roof. Longer highway drives without the bike will definitely increase my mileage and aerodynamics.
 
Mike, you should have 4.10s.

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Just noticed that, 4.10's. For some reason I got them mixed up in my head and I typed something else.

Nevertheless I swapped in a factory e locker and gears without a gear change.
 
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Best mileage ever. Flat highway driving. Fully loaded, Yakima rack (but had 2 bikes off the back) and 3 people.

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Four of us with 3rd gens headed south from Northern California down to the Mojave Desert for a weekend of wheeling. We all caravanned together, on the same roads at the same speed and did nothing to try and eek-out mileage (no drafting, etc.) The results were not what I expected.

Highway driving--(1) is heading south, (2) is mileage heading north to home
1999 4R - 0.0" lift, auto/V6, 265/75R16 ATs - (1) 24.2 mpg, (2) 22 mpg
1997 4R - 2.5" lift, auto/V6, 265/70R16 ATs - (1) 22 mpg, (2) 20.0 mpg
1999 4R - 1.0" lift, 5sp/V6, 265/75R16 ATs, aftmkt frt bumper - (1) 20.8 mpg, (2) 18.6 mpg
2000 4R - 2.5" lift, 5sp/SC V6, 265/75R16 ATs, Yakima rack - (1) 20.7 mpg, (2) 18.6 mpg

VERY interesting. Thanks for posting. i think the wind resistance of the aftermarket bumper and roof track played a roll in the lower millage. I think maybe the lift takes 2 mpg from you?

Anyway, good stuff man. Good Idea to take advantage of the opportunity to have so many test subjects.
 

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