I have the Gobi Stealth with front rise, cross bars and removable sunroof insert.
You. can't beat how good they look.
I have Zero interest in ever having the ladder....
If I ever buy another Gobi, It will be without crossbars, or perhaps removable crossbars.
It seems I can never pack the load the way I want with those damn things in the way.
I didn't know they made one with permanent crossbars. All of the models on their website come with removable crossbars.