ic0517
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This morning, after dropping my two daughters off at high school, driving past the grocery store on my way to work, my TE got one of its rear tires in a slick patch (ice?) and the traction control kicked in as the tire spun. And I gave it more gas just for laughs.
It can be a big pain in the ass trying to switch between 4W and 2W going between dry and snowy pavement in the Trail Edition. Limited is different.
A front wheel drive unibody car with snow tires on can easily beat a 4Runner in 2W mode in the snow on city streets. Throw in AWD with a computer watching over it and its really something, My previous vehicle was a Subaru Forester.
Only with the 4Runner in 4WD in heavy snow all over the place does it have an edge. And that edge goes away immediately the moment you take your foot off the gas pedal, all cars have brakes on all four wheels and ABS.
(OK, my 1988 RWD Ford F-150 had some proportioning valve that as you put more weight in the back, it would put more fluid to the rear axle so you can use the weight to help stop. Don't know if Ford still does that.)
I would have bought the 2013 Highlander if it had a better second seat, it had some strange stow middle seat, and with the third seat up there is nothing left. At least in the 4Runner three kids could sit across.
I thought the middle center seat of the 2013 Honda Pilot royally sucked. Honda is coming out with a new Pilot for 2016, but I always wait for at least the second year. I tried lots of cars and they sucked. I went to an Acura dealership in my jeans dirty from work, I got to sit in every rear seat in a space of like 10 minutes because nobody bothered me, guessing I couldn't afford one. Avalon was OK. 4Runner wasn't bad, I got to keep my man card, and I always wanted one since 1988 but couldn't afford it.
Outback was a big car but the radio was lame and the second row middle was uncomfortable, and the CVT was weird, I could see my wife complaining about it.
It can be a big pain in the ass trying to switch between 4W and 2W going between dry and snowy pavement in the Trail Edition. Limited is different.
A front wheel drive unibody car with snow tires on can easily beat a 4Runner in 2W mode in the snow on city streets. Throw in AWD with a computer watching over it and its really something, My previous vehicle was a Subaru Forester.
Only with the 4Runner in 4WD in heavy snow all over the place does it have an edge. And that edge goes away immediately the moment you take your foot off the gas pedal, all cars have brakes on all four wheels and ABS.
(OK, my 1988 RWD Ford F-150 had some proportioning valve that as you put more weight in the back, it would put more fluid to the rear axle so you can use the weight to help stop. Don't know if Ford still does that.)
I would have bought the 2013 Highlander if it had a better second seat, it had some strange stow middle seat, and with the third seat up there is nothing left. At least in the 4Runner three kids could sit across.
I thought the middle center seat of the 2013 Honda Pilot royally sucked. Honda is coming out with a new Pilot for 2016, but I always wait for at least the second year. I tried lots of cars and they sucked. I went to an Acura dealership in my jeans dirty from work, I got to sit in every rear seat in a space of like 10 minutes because nobody bothered me, guessing I couldn't afford one. Avalon was OK. 4Runner wasn't bad, I got to keep my man card, and I always wanted one since 1988 but couldn't afford it.
Outback was a big car but the radio was lame and the second row middle was uncomfortable, and the CVT was weird, I could see my wife complaining about it.