Good Replacement for Revos

[TeryT]

In a couple weeks

Pipsqueak (Scorpion see below)- No, will install the Geolander AT GO15s when we get back from business travel in a couple weeks. At least that's the current plan. I've pretty well decided on those based on what I've read on TireRack.com, DiscountTire.com, this forum, other forums and also Consumer Reports. As I mentioned before, the Geolander just kept coming up over & over on these lists and conversations as a desirable tire. Then I talked to a couple Discount Tire guys who have them.

The Geolandar doesn't look as aggressive as many of the others (including the Revos I have), but they are still rated well by others offroad. These days I am admittedly not doing as much offroad as I did with the 4Runner 10 years ago. AT one point I was out to prove its off-roading prowess and in stock configuration I'd go out and try to keep up with the Taco guys (didn't do too bad either!). But these days I feel no such compunction and just want something that's a comfortable daily driver as well as some abilities when getting into the high country & back woods/mountain roads. Therefore, I think the Geolandar is probably the best thing all-around for me.

(And as I said before, what burnt me on the Revo2s was the shorter tread life verses the Revo1s, which is a general consensus from what I've seen. Geolandars are 60k mile tire and touted as getting more.)

I will say the more aggressive Falken AT was also on my short list as it came up many times also. I might go with it if I wanted more off-road ability. It looked beefy and many are saying it's at least on par with the General Grabber - some have even compared it with the venerable BFG as a decent, but cheaper alternative.

Scorpion - The Geolandar does have the 3 peak snow flake symbol as I saw it on one while at Disc. Tire. (I think the Falken did too.)

 

[TeryT]

BFG vs. Dynapro

I'm in a similar boat as you! I need to replace my Nitto Teras since they're 7+ years old and the tread is down.

Do any of the tires your looking at have the "snowflake/mountain" symbol on them? I'm trying to avoid chain control in the Sierras.

Anyways, let us know what you end up going with! Id be very interested to hear since I'm in a similar situation.

I've been looking at the BF Goodrich KO2s and Hankook Dynapro AT-Ms.

I'm running 275/55/20Rs right now on my 2005 SR5 4WD.

The BFG and Dynapro seem sort of in two different camps of ATs, the KO2 being much more aggressive toward off-road and the Hankook being more toward the pavement side I think. I believe the Dynapro is more comparable to the Geolandar in terms of leaning more toward pavement. They should also be quieter than the KO2 (which for me has some importance), however it seems the Geolandar is perhaps one of the quietest. It is also a 60k mile tire, and most of the others are 50-55k. Tough to know! (but the research can be fun)

 

[pipspeak]

The BFG and Dynapro seem sort of in two different camps of ATs, the KO2 being much more aggressive toward off-road and the Hankook being more toward the pavement side I think. I believe the Dynapro is more comparable to the Geolandar in terms of leaning more toward pavement. They should also be quieter than the KO2 (which for me has some importance), however it seems the Geolandar is perhaps one of the quietest. It is also a 60k mile tire, and most of the others are 50-55k. Tough to know! (but the research can be fun)

I was just looking at the Nov 2017 Consumer Reports test results for all-terrain tires. It rates the Geolandar G015 good for noise, but gives it below average for rolling resistance, which is disconcerting since they don't seem to be heavy or aggressive tires and it's a worse rating than my current Scorpion ATRs (the Michelin LTX A/T 2 scored the best for rolling resistance but below average for noise).

I'm never sure how much credence to give Consumer Reports, but I'm curious if the Geolandar really does impact fuel economy.

Still, the Geolandar came in at number 4 and the top six tires were all "recommended" by CR:

1. Continental TerrainContact A/T (overall score 72)
2. Michelin LTX A/T 2 (72)
3. Goodyear Wrangler Trailrunner AT (68)
4. Geolandar G015 (68)
5. Nexen Roadian AT Pro (68)
6. Falken Wildpeak AT3W (68)

The Dynapro came in at number 9 and the BFG KO2 wasn't in the test, I guess because it's a more aggressive off-road tire. The Goodyears look interesting, but are not yet rated on Tirerack and my past experience with GYs was not great (I had the Wrangler AT/S on my jeep and they kinda sucked).

 

[Scorpion3510]

I've heard and read great things about the Falken AT/3 Wikdpeaks. It seems like they are fantastic in snow and rain plus give good on road and off road performance. Anyone hear anything negative?

 

[TeryT]

I was just looking at the Nov 2017 Consumer Reports test results for all-terrain tires. It rates the Geolandar G015 good for noise, but gives it below average for rolling resistance, which is disconcerting since they don't seem to be heavy or aggressive tires and it's a worse rating than my current Scorpion ATRs (the Michelin LTX A/T 2 scored the best for rolling resistance but below average for noise).

I'm never sure how much credence to give Consumer Reports, but I'm curious if the Geolandar really does impact fuel economy.

Still, the Geolandar came in at number 4 and the top six tires were all "recommended" by CR:

1. Continental TerrainContact A/T (overall score 72)
2. Michelin LTX A/T 2 (72)
3. Goodyear Wrangler Trailrunner AT (68)
4. Geolandar G015 (68)
5. Nexen Roadian AT Pro (68)
6. Falken Wildpeak AT3W (68)

The Dynapro came in at number 9 and the BFG KO2 wasn't in the test, I guess because it's a more aggressive off-road tire. The Goodyears look interesting, but are not yet rated on Tirerack and my past experience with GYs was not great (I had the Wrangler AT/S on my jeep and they kinda sucked).

Thanks! I too looked at CR and saw that. The last four all got a "68" with the Michelin & Continental getting a 72 score overall. I'm not too impressed with the Michelin as it doesn't get that good a composite review on TireRack. It's also pricey. There are a few issue with the Continental: 1) They were recently introduced and there just isn't much out there about them (including this forum - also Continental's 1st try at an AT); 2) I don't see them in my stock size (65/265-17) other than LT; 3) Discount Tire doesn't seem to even carry them!

Also, I don't think it carries the snowflake symbol, which is nice to have.

However, this online review speaks highly of them and gives them a 9 out of 10 https://bustedwallet.com/continental-terraincontact-at-review/ Other professionals rate the new Continental AT quite highly as well, but for the reasons cited I don't think I can consider it much . . .

 

[TeryT]

I've heard and read great things about the Falken AT/3 Wikdpeaks. It seems like they are fantastic in snow and rain plus give good on road and off road performance. Anyone hear anything negative?

I've heard many good things about them too! It was the top of the list along with the Geolandar to see in person. After seeing it I decided it was more aggressive than I need now, but if I was doing more off-road I'd probably go for it!

 

[drei4runner29]

Thanks for this post. Helps me decide on what tires to buy in the near future. I used to own 2 sets of the Yokohama AT/S before I went w/ the Revos and now the on a set of BFG KOs. Out of all the tires I've owned, the Yokohamas were favorite. It gave me great gas mileage and quiet on the pavement and great handling during dry or rainy weather.

I was looking at the new Falken Wildpeaks too. Love the aggresive styling of the Falkens. But I probably won't be purchasing a new set of tires probably until the end of this year or beginning of next year but the top two contenders as of right now after reading this post are 1. the Falken Wildpeaks and 2. the Yokohama A/T GO15s.

And I like to purchase my tires from Discount/America's Tire stores. I've purchased pretty much all my tires from America's Tire.

On a side note, I've also used a set of Continentals, granted they were street tires, and I wasn't fond of them. I hydroplaned a few times w/ those tires and after hydroplaning making a left turn from a complete stop on a 3 way stop sign, that's when I decided to switch it out for the Yokohamas.

 

[TeryT]

Thanks for this post. Helps me decide on what tires to buy in the near future. I used to own 2 sets of the Yokohama AT/S before I went w/ the Revos and now the on a set of BFG KOs. Out of all the tires I've owned, the Yokohamas were favorite. It gave me great gas mileage and quiet on the pavement and great handling during dry or rainy weather.

I was looking at the new Falken Wildpeaks too. Love the aggresive styling of the Falkens. But I probably won't be purchasing a new set of tires probably until the end of this year or beginning of next year but the top two contenders as of right now after reading this post are 1. the Falken Wildpeaks and 2. the Yokohama A/T GO15s.

And I like to purchase my tires from Discount/America's Tire stores. I've purchased pretty much all my tires from America's Tire.

On a side note, I've also used a set of Continentals, granted they were street tires, and I wasn't fond of them. I hydroplaned a few times w/ those tires and after hydroplaning making a left turn from a complete stop on a 3 way stop sign, that's when I decided to switch it out for the Yokohamas.

Thanks for your input! We are in agreement with Discount Tire, as they have become my preferred tire store for a number of reasons - they really think tires and strive to provide a great overall service!

I must say I love these kids of discussions from real users. We all have our own specific set of requirements for tires, and this is a great way to communicate ideas and experience.

So why are you thinking the Falkens? Do you like the look or the perceived improved off-road ability? If I thought I would do more off-road, I might be persuaded toward them instead of the Geolandar, as they are also in my top consideration list.

And I have to admit that after hearing about CR putting the new Continental AT at the very top, and reading the very glowing online reviews from professionals about this AT, I'm thinking of taking a harder look at those (even though they might not be in my exact stock size).

Ain't this not fun!!??:rofl:

 

[pipspeak]

Ain't this not fun!!??:rofl:

Tell me about it. I was hoping to avoid this malarkey and just throw on a new set of my current tire, until I learned it had been discontinued :sobbing:

My only concern with both the Yokohama G015 and the Continentals is their poor rolling resistance rating from CR. Last thing I want is to lose 1-2 mpg.

I’m actually also considering the Michelin Defender, which is not an AT tire but reportedly does fine in moderate off-road stuff and sounds like a great all-season highway tire.

 

[Discount Tire]

And I like to purchase my tires from Discount/America's Tire stores. I've purchased pretty much all my tires from America's Tire.

Thanks for your input! We are in agreement with Discount Tire, as they have become my preferred tire store for a number of reasons - they really think tires and strive to provide a great overall service!

Thank you both for the kind words - we do our best to treat our customers the way we expect to be treated :thumb3:

 

[TeryT]

Tell me about it. I was hoping to avoid this malarkey and just throw on a new set of my current tire, until I learned it had been discontinued :sobbing:

My only concern with both the Yokohama G015 and the Continentals is their poor rolling resistance rating from CR. Last thing I want is to lose 1-2 mpg.

I’m actually also considering the Michelin Defender, which is not an AT tire but reportedly does fine in moderate off-road stuff and sounds like a great all-season highway tire.

Yeah, I sure don't like sacrificing rolling resistance either!

Well on another T4R thread, someone turned me on to this test where the Cooper AT3 blew six others out of the water in both on & off road tests: https://expeditionportal.com/where-the-rubber-meets-the-road/ I was originally put off by TireRack.com info which showed a little lower "would you recommend?" numbers on the Cooper, but I think I may need to reconsider this tire!

And they also liked the Falken, but they said the rubber was too soft and wouldn't wear well.

 

[TeryT]

Decision: Cooper AT3 or Geolandar

I'm now reading review after review of the Cooper AT3. They all say the same thing - everyone was surprised at the excellent abilities of this tire, both off road and on!

Here's a short one some Brits did Cooper Discoverer AT3 review. The ultimate all terrain tire for the real world? - Explore More

Looking at TireRack side by side comparison of the the Cooper & Geolandar, they have very similar specs and review ratings - very similar! The Cooper is rated #3 (out of 17) and the Geo #5 overall. (It appears the Geo has now moved ahead of the General Grabber for the number 5 spot.)

The one thing the Geo has that the Cooper doesn't is the little snowflake symbol. This was mentioned in the article above. The Geo does have this. The Cooper is clearly the better off road, but from actual owners the Geo appears better in winter & snow. Plus the Cooper has a lower "would you recommend?" number (7.8) than the Geo (8.2) - not huge, but makes me wonder . . .

So the horse race is now between these two I think. I could probably flip a coin and not loose between these two!:thumb::thumb:

 

[pipspeak]

Interesting. Cooper advertises the AT3 as a "60/40 tire", although I'm looking for more of a 95/5 tire so I'm not sure it'll be ideal. But I shall investigate further. CR ranks the Cooper down at number 11.

 

[TeryT]

Interesting. Cooper advertises the AT3 as a "60/40 tire", although I'm looking for more of a 95/5 tire so I'm not sure it'll be ideal. But I shall investigate further. CR ranks the Cooper down at number 11.

Good points! For many reasons I just keep coming back to the Geo!

 

[TeryT]

I've Got a Good Solution!

After reading reviews until I'm the proverbial "blue in the face!" :sleepy: I may have the solution.

I think I will buy one each of these A/T tires:

Geolandar
Cooper
Falken
Revo3
Continental

So I'll have Discount Tire put one on each of the rims (including spare) and see how well each do! I'll report back here from time to time . . .

How does that sound? :clap2:

 

[MSU_Spartan]

Boy I would not rule out the Revo 3’s yet. After driving in some real crap Friday night I’m impressed. They handled the rain, sleet and slush snow superbly. These are definitely better than the Revo 2’s. Better handling and less road noise as well. Time will tell on mileage, but so far I’m impressed.

 

[drei4runner29]

Thanks for your input! We are in agreement with Discount Tire, as they have become my preferred tire store for a number of reasons - they really think tires and strive to provide a great overall service!

I must say I love these kids of discussions from real users. We all have our own specific set of requirements for tires, and this is a great way to communicate ideas and experience.

So why are you thinking the Falkens? Do you like the look or the perceived improved off-road ability? If I thought I would do more off-road, I might be persuaded toward them instead of the Geolandar, as they are also in my top consideration list.

And I have to admit that after hearing about CR putting the new Continental AT at the very top, and reading the very glowing online reviews from professionals about this AT, I'm thinking of taking a harder look at those (even though they might not be in my exact stock size).

Ain't this not fun!!??:rofl:

Lol. One of the reasons I’m swaying towards the Falkens are 1) the looks of the tire and 2) the price.

The Falkens look aggressive enough like the BFGs but won’t make my wallet or myself cry lol.

I only wish that the Yokohama’s looked more aggressive style wise and if not for that, I would definitely still buy the Yokohamas. But who knows, after driving around with the BFGs for awhile, I might just end up going with the Yokos.

I still can’t go with the Continentals. Even if they might have changed, just having the bad experiences with those tires, I’ll never go back to them again. But that’s just personal preference.


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[pipspeak]

So I decided to go for the Michelin Defender LTX after thinking about all the driving I've done in the last few years and determining that I probably do not need an A/T tire (and after research suggests the Defenders seem to do fine with light offroading and in snow). TBH ride quality and fuel economy are probably more important, and I think the Michelins will beat my current tires on both those counts.

Anyone in the market for tires should also check their local Toyota dealer because many seem to have a "buy 3 tires and get 4th for $1" deal through April, which made a set of Michelins only $760 installed, including Toyota's 24-month road hazard protection -- by far the cheapest price I found. The Geolandars would have been $650 installed

 

[Scorpion3510]

I pulled the trigger and ordered a set of the Falken Wildpeak A/T3W the other day. They should arrive tomorrow and I'll have them installed next week.

I'll post back here with how they perform later on. For reference, I have a 2005 SR5 4WD running Nitto Terras 275/55R/20. Ordered the same size for the Falkens.

 

[TeryT]

Boy I would not rule out the Revo 3’s yet. After driving in some real crap Friday night I’m impressed. They handled the rain, sleet and slush snow superbly. These are definitely better than the Revo 2’s. Better handling and less road noise as well. Time will tell on mileage, but so far I’m impressed.

Good to hear that! And ain't it wonderful living in America where we have so many good choices! :reddance: Well I'll hafta make my mind up soon, because everyone is running their specials in April!

So did you have the Revo 2s, and if so, how well did they perform for you and what was the longevity?