GoodBye 4Runner (after 8 months)

SteadfastZach

SteadfastZach

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Made the switch to an 18 Tundra. Just couldn't pass up the lease specials right now! Went with a SR5 w/ XSP package, 15k a year.

Excited to have the TSS package now.
 

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SteadfastZach said:
Made the switch to an 18 Tundra. Just couldn't pass up the lease specials right now! Went with a SR5 w/ XSP package, 15k a year.

Excited to have the TSS package now.
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Do you tow a boat or camper? Do you lug a bunch of gear or materials around? It seems like a completely different kind of vehicle.
 
msp said:
Do you tow a boat or camper? Do you lug a bunch of gear or materials around? It seems like a completely different kind of vehicle.
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No, no, and No.

Just always wanted one! New house which means lots of supplies from Lowes, lol. Love the drive!
 
I had my house built so I could fit a Tundra into the garage. However, when the Camry was totaled the wife wouldn't let me pull the trigger on it :(. But, love the 4Runner and have wanted one since growing up in my dad's '90 with 5 speed!

Cheers to your new rig!!
 
Nice, new Tundra! Enjoy!

Since I have an ‘18 ORP that’s about 8 months old (not that I’m looking to get rid of it), can I ask you how much you got back for the 4Runner (either trade or sale)?
 
Along with a 13 4Runner SR5 we have a 2000 Tundra SR5 TRD 4WD with the 4.7 V8. We took a bit of a chance with 2000 being the Tundra's first year (it replaced the T100) but it's been a great truck with few issues this past 19 years. Good luck with yours OP.
 
I'm curious (because I genuinely don't know) -- except for the fact its a Toyota, why would anyone buy the Tundra, a truck that hasn't been redesigned in 10 years rather than a modern full-size pickup from the big three? They cost the same, but the domestics are going on their 2nd redesign since the last Tundra redesign.

I can usually reason why someone would prefer a Toyota that's "stuck in the past" over a modern alternative (clearly, because I own a 4Runner). But I'm at a loss on why the Tundra even sells at this point.
 
epjfsa said:
I'm curious (because I genuinely don't know) -- except for the fact its a Toyota, why would anyone buy the Tundra, a truck that hasn't been redesigned in 10 years rather than a modern full-size pickup from the big three? They cost the same, but the domestics are going on their 2nd redesign since the last Tundra redesign.

I can usually reason why someone would prefer a Toyota that's "stuck in the past" over a modern alternative (clearly, because I own a 4Runner). But I'm at a loss on why the Tundra even sells at this point.
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QDR. Quality, Dependability, Reliability. None of the other full size trucks come close. How the balance between being unreliable with the latest and greatest features compares to being an extremely reliable truck without the latest and greatest features is always a personal choice.

And if you do want to go off road - there's really only one choice. The tundra is still head and shoulders above everything including the Raptor as a base vehicle to build an overland truck out of. All the small stuff was done right. Shocks in the right spots. Extremely durable rear axle with a mid ring gear pinion (protected drive shaft). And a rear window that rolls all the way down so your sleeping platform can extend into the truck cabin. No other full size truck offers a package that would compare as an offroad truck - if you're serious about spending a lot of time in the dirt.

Also the Tundra is usually significantly less expensive for a comparable model. Tundra base price is higher, but it also has a lot more standard features than an F150 for example. And a loaded Tundra is about $50k. Loaded F150 is more like $70k. But the big 3 also play marketing games. Big price, then marked down to something to make it a "sale". So actual sale price is hard to judge. I believe typically the Tundra will have a lower cost to own even with higher fuel costs due to lower repair costs and lower purchase price. Plus is you factor in the cost of being without a truck for 1-2 weeks a year while your other truck is being repaired, that adds up too.
 
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Jetboy said:
QDR. Quality, Dependability, Reliability. None of the other full size trucks come close. How the balance between being unreliable with the latest and greatest features compares to being an extremely reliable truck without the latest and greatest features is always a personal choice.

And if you do want to go off road - there's really only one choice. The tundra is still head and shoulders above everything including the Raptor as a base vehicle to build an overland truck out of. All the small stuff was done right. Shocks in the right spots. Extremely durable rear axle with a mid ring gear pinion (protected drive shaft). And a rear window that rolls all the way down so your sleeping platform can extend into the truck cabin. No other full size truck offers a package that would compare as an offroad truck - if you're serious about spending a lot of time in the dirt.

Also the Tundra is usually significantly less expensive for a comparable model. Tundra base price is higher, but it also has a lot more standard features than an F150 for example. And a loaded Tundra is about $50k. Loaded F150 is more like $70k. But the big 3 also play marketing games. Big price, then marked down to something to make it a "sale". So actual sale price is hard to judge. I believe typically the Tundra will have a lower cost to own even with higher fuel costs due to lower repair costs and lower purchase price. Plus is you factor in the cost of being without a truck for 1-2 weeks a year while your other truck is being repaired, that adds up too.
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Dated technology sometimes may mean tried and true technology. Like the 5th 4runners, it has been around while and gives you a history of any issues and if they've been fixed or not.
 
Thermal said:
Dated technology sometimes may mean tried and true technology. Like the 5th 4runners, it has been around while and gives you a history of any issues and if they've been fixed or not.
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yes tundra is dated, my wife loves her 4runner and I as well. As for a crewcab truck I'm looking to purchase one in the next few years. Would like to see a new gen tundra. The 4runner we will keep for awhile hopefully 5-10 years but may trade it pending residual value since my wife barely drives 8k miles a year.
 
epjfsa said:
I'm curious (because I genuinely don't know) -- except for the fact its a Toyota, why would anyone buy the Tundra, a truck that hasn't been redesigned in 10 years rather than a modern full-size pickup from the big three? They cost the same, but the domestics are going on their 2nd redesign since the last Tundra redesign.

I can usually reason why someone would prefer a Toyota that's "stuck in the past" over a modern alternative (clearly, because I own a 4Runner). But I'm at a loss on why the Tundra even sells at this point.
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Wait, are you describing the 4Runner or Tundra?
:snacker:
 
Jetboy said:
QDR. Quality, Dependability, Reliability. None of the other full size trucks come close. How the balance between being unreliable with the latest and greatest features compares to being an extremely reliable truck without the latest and greatest features is always a personal choice.

And if you do want to go off road - there's really only one choice. The tundra is still head and shoulders above everything including the Raptor as a base vehicle to build an overland truck out of. All the small stuff was done right. Shocks in the right spots. Extremely durable rear axle with a mid ring gear pinion (protected drive shaft). And a rear window that rolls all the way down so your sleeping platform can extend into the truck cabin. No other full size truck offers a package that would compare as an offroad truck - if you're serious about spending a lot of time in the dirt.

Also the Tundra is usually significantly less expensive for a comparable model. Tundra base price is higher, but it also has a lot more standard features than an F150 for example. And a loaded Tundra is about $50k. Loaded F150 is more like $70k. But the big 3 also play marketing games. Big price, then marked down to something to make it a "sale". So actual sale price is hard to judge. I believe typically the Tundra will have a lower cost to own even with higher fuel costs due to lower repair costs and lower purchase price. Plus is you factor in the cost of being without a truck for 1-2 weeks a year while your other truck is being repaired, that adds up too.
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Makes sense. I'm not sure the quality/reliability issue is entirely true for the big three's full size trucks like it could be for their other products, but I wouldn't claim to know that as fact. At the end of the day, nearly all modern vehicles are reliable and will work fine for the majority of owners. The rest are quite valid points.

And yea, this increasing use of the "JC Penny pricing" is out of hand. RAM had a $13,000 rebate last month... give me a break :lmao:
 
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CalicoSR5 said:
Seeing how it is a lease I am sure it is going to stay on the highway anyways so good shot getting what you really want.
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That's really what it came down to. I just walked through service at my dealership and saw the T4R getting all prepped for CPO inventory. Didn't even look back. Might do a small front leveling kit on the Tundra, going to pop my old LED H11 4Runner Fogs in the Tundra's Headlights and call it gravy!

Thanks for all the props guys.
 
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