Group buy : DC power Engineering 270amp alternator

[Okki]

Group buy : DC power Engineering 270amp alternator - (12 AUG: CLOSED)

How many people have an interest in doing a group buy on the xp270 alternator? The normal MSRP is $625 (including shipping) at the moment.
(model # is: 11139-270XP. This alternator IS the one that will fit your gen-5 4Runner!)

https://www.dcpowerinc.com/fit/Toyota~4Runner~2009~4.0L-V6-1GR-FE/11139-270-xp.html

For details as to why to perform this upgrade, please read the thread here: http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-g...wn-over-2-days-winch-cause-3.html#post2421227

UPDATE - DETAILS FROM DC ENGINEERING:
I received the below email from DC Engineering and the group buy will be with them directly and NOT via a dealer or distributor. Once I have the coupon code, I will PM the members on the list below with the code and ordering instructions. The list will be closed first thing in the AM on 12 AUG EST. The price offered is a 22% discount over MSRP!:first:olice::jump:

Thanks for taking the time to call me and discuss what was happening on your forum. We can move forward with this group buy and I have a few terms for the buy and a few things you need to be aware of.

I will be giving you a coupon code for the group buy, all you have to do is insert the coupon code and it will give you a good chunk of money off of your alternator. You'll be looking at $516.35 shipped which I think is super reasonable, if you're from California you'll be paying tax on top of that total. I do request that the coupon code not be posted directly on the thread but rather given to you which can then be given out to a list of people that you have on hand. I will make this coupon code active as soon as you agree on the terms and will be available until the 12th of August.

As far as a build time, we are a small company and we do high volume for regulator retail, military, and other wholesale companies. Our current lead time is about 2-3 weeks, any custom anodizing or powder coating will add to the lead time. Anodizing is rather quick and so is polishing, but powder coating has been known to take 2-3 months to complete so I would highly advise against it.

If you have any questions or concerns please let me know.

Thank you.

THE GROUP BUY IS FOR THE TOYOTA 4RUNNER 270XP ONLY.
PLEASE DO NOT SHARE OR POST THE COUPON CODE

3 AUG UPDATE - Order details sent to Batch 1 Participants

!!!! 4 AUG UPDATE: EVERYONE PLEASE READ: !!!!
For those of you who placed an order already please send Anthony an email referencing your order number (#120000XXXX) and please provide your Year/Make/Model/Liter Motor so we can make sure there are no errors when you receive your product. [email protected]. For details as to why: See this post: http://www.toyota-4runner.org/2432398-post127.html

8 Aug: IMPORTANT: 2015/2016 alternators have been confirmed!!

12 AUG : !!!GROUPBUY IS CLOSED!!!!:bluejump:

Thank you all who have helped make this a success for both the forum and for DC Engineering.
[MENTION=144561]DCPower_Anthony[/MENTION] is keeping the coupon code active through Sunday so anyone receiving their code tonight or those of you who have been waiting for the right moment to use the code; you have 48 more hours to get your order in with DC Engineering before they are no longer having to honor the coupon code.

Can't wait to start seeing the installation pics !

Thanks and have a great day!
Okki:AK47:

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BATCH 1 Members: CONTACTED

1. Okki
2. bittwiddler
3. zmgh1150 (indicated via PM)
4. Engineer (indicated via PM)
5. bimrunner
6. Maverik159
7. ColoradoFrosty
8. sekurt (indicated via PM)
9. Runamok
10. lionchops
11. Diver Deuce
12. pcho74
13. jrandom
14. justDave
15. 4fun-ar
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17. Taco04 (indicated via PM)
18. jbregar (tentative)
19. nglayton (tentative)
20. ADVnut(tentative ; indicated via PM)
21. coolhead64 (tentative)
22. KVA (tentative)

BATCH 2 Members: CONTACTED

1. meanbaby
2. mjacx (indicated via pm)
3. zidaro

BATCH 3 Members: CONTACTED

1. barryhiram

BATCH 4 Members: CONTACTED

1. deanyuan

2015/2016 BATCH CONTACTED

1. LawnDart
2. TitanPat57 (tentative)
3. carlos.elmotor
4. CrazyMike (tentative)
5. Ray Dunakin (tentative)
6. raptore
7. Zmartin19
8. Obi Wong Kenobi
9. Cytronus
10. COgreen
11. diddley.bo
12. Hump77

BATCH 5 Members: CONTACTED

1. Friggin Idiot
2. Ohio Hawk

BATCH 6 Members: CONTACTED

1. Slavic
2. Askaltoy

BATCH 7 Members (Last Batch): CONTACTED

1. phx

 

[rigtec]

How many people have an interest in doing a group buy on the xp270 alternator? It's $625 (including shipping) at the moment.

https://www.dcpowerinc.com/13341-270-xp.html

If there are 5 or more people seriously interested, I'll call and find out if they are interested in offering a deal.

Okki
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Interested members:
- Okki

Hey Okki,

I'm so glad that you've decided to spearhead this (potentially) important undertaking! Just a short while back another forum member was interested in purchasing a 270-XP H.O. alternator. He explained to me what his trouble was (fitment issues) so I in turn called Nations Starter & Alternator and spoke with a sales rep. Holly; here's what happened in that exchange... http://www.toyota-4runner.org/2363229-post131.html

As a result of that 30 minute conversation that I had w/ Holly, and after explaining about the vast potential of this forum to start ordering at a high volume level, the owner, Adam, has decided to start building our alternators in bulk; where as previously they were made to order and took a month and a half to arrive once ordered! I know that you can negotiate a 20 to 25% off of their normal price when we buy in bulk! Thanks again for all of your efforts,

Best to you!

 

[rigtec]

Oh, I neglected to mention:

The fitment model# for the Gen-5 4Runner is: NSA-11517-270XP. This alternator is a Direct fit and requires no modification or cable rerouting!

Cheers!

 

[bittwiddler]

If it's a direct fit then I'm definitely interested. I've been considering doing this for a while

 

[Okki]

If it's a direct fit then I'm definitely interested. I've been considering doing this for a while

Added you to the list on the first post. :thanks:

 

[rigtec]

Added you to the list on the first post. :thanks:

Hey Okki'

If you have any trouble negotiating the bulk price and need help, shoot me a PM; negotiating contracts and sales is my business so I'll help you in anyway that I can! Rgds

 

[Titanpat57]

I guess my question would be...understanding this unit is direct bolt up...is does require an increase in the cable size to accommodate the higher output of power?

Thanks in advance

 

[Okki]

Updated first post with [MENTION=136621]zmgh1150[/MENTION].

[MENTION=47340]Titanpat57[/MENTION], I don't believe it's a requirement, and replacing the factory wiring is nearly impossible due to the construction of the OEM fuse box. I have a number of posts on my build thread about the topic. If you wanted to run a secondary (thicker) wire from the alternator to the battery, that's doable and would provide the most optimal performance of the entire upgrade.

Thanks
Okki

 

[bimrunner]

I need this in my life. The stock is not up to dual batteries and aftermarket stereo combo. I have to put mine on the charger periodically, especially when I go on long trips with the ARB.

 

[smkymntn]

Thanks to rigtec I got my 270xp from nations without incident. I also installed a 1000watt JL audio system with 3 sets of components and a 10" sub, a northstar group 31 battery and my engine screams to life when I start. In fact, just last night I threw my battery on the charger and it was in storage mode in less than half an hour.

I have absolutely zero power issues with everything on including led light bar, led hi beams, hid low beams and led fogs and stereo jamming.

I did add the big three wire upgrade as well. If you want a quality alternator that will ensure you always have a happy electrical system do not hesitate!!

 

[Okki]

I need this in my life. The stock is not up to dual batteries and aftermarket stereo combo. I have to put mine on the charger periodically, especially when I go on long trips with the ARB.

Is that a "Please add me to the list"? [MENTION=89562]bimrunner[/MENTION]

Added [MENTION=96008]Engineer[/MENTION] based on his PM.

 

[bimrunner]

Is that a "Please add me to the list"? [MENTION=89562]bimrunner[/MENTION]

Added [MENTION=96008]Engineer[/MENTION] based on his PM.

Yes sir.

 

[borfoo3]

noob questions

whats the downside of a H.O alternater? Hotter running wires? Higher engine load/ more parasitic power loss?

Any chance I'll find the 4runner in ashes with this working in dusty +55C (+131F) weather?

Any chance I can improve A/C performance with this upgrade somehow? :biggrin2:

 

[Okki]

noob questions

whats the downside of a H.O alternater? Hotter running wires? Higher engine load/ more parasitic power loss?

Any chance I'll find the 4runner in ashes with this working in dusty +55C (+131F) weather?

Any chance I can improve A/C performance with this upgrade somehow? :biggrin2:

All great questions and tagging [MENTION=83083]rigtec[/MENTION] for the detailed response :eyebrows:

- If properly installed, you will not be burning down the vehicle.
- It will not improve the AC, but it will give the AC plenty of power to not run in a starved condition when you also run big light bars in the desert at the same time .

Everything else rigtec will have to provide the detailed electrical explanation for.

Okki

 

[Titanpat57]

Updated first post with [MENTION=136621]zmgh1150[/MENTION].

[MENTION=47340]Titanpat57[/MENTION], I don't believe it's a requirement, and replacing the factory wiring is nearly impossible due to the construction of the OEM fuse box. I have a number of posts on my build thread about the topic. If you wanted to run a secondary (thicker) wire from the alternator to the battery, that's doable and would provide the most optimal performance of the entire upgrade.

Thanks
Okki

[MENTION=55815]Okki[/MENTION] Thanks for the clarification.

 

[rigtec]

noob questions

whats the downside of a H.O alternater? Hotter running wires? Higher engine load/ more parasitic power loss?

Any chance I'll find the 4runner in ashes with this working in dusty +55C (+131F) weather?

Any chance I can improve A/C performance with this upgrade somehow? :biggrin2:

Hi borfoo3,

No downside to a high quality H.O. alternator upgrade... please read this thread so that you'll be well informed to make an educated decision 'before you buy': http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/172070-4runner-alternator-upgrade-gen-5-a.html

Best!

 

[Okki]

[MENTION=55815]Okki[/MENTION] Thanks for the clarification.

Am I adding you to the list Pat? :boink:

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Since we reached 5 members with serious interest I'll aim to get the conversation started with Nations Starter & Alternator tomorrow afternoon. I'll keep everyone posted here.

Okki

 

[rigtec]

I guess my question would be...understanding this unit is direct bolt up...is does require an increase in the cable size to accommodate the higher output of power?

Thanks in advance

Hi Patrick,

You're not the first person that has inquired about that! Truth is: Even electricity has rules to follow. As a result, we can predict exactly where it will go, how it will get there and why it has to do that! And yes(!), if you plan to use a H.O. alternator then you need to create a path for the higher volume of current (amperage) to travel through. But you never need to beef up the factory wiring that comes from either of the stock fuseboxes... they'll never see one milliAMP more than the Toyota electrical engineers had not planned for them to carry! However, all of our aftermarket accessories are sourcing their power supply directly from the battery; which will be fed directly from the much larger alternator that we've installed!

So the larger cables (4ga) will provide a new path for the higher volume of current to flow 'DIRECTLY' to and from the positive and negative battery terminals and never affecting the factory wiring, fuses, relays, switches, electronics...etc! So just to be clear: "We are NOT going to alter any of the truck's factory electrical system". We are simply creating a new Auxillary electrical system for our high power consuming accessories to be managed and fed by! Also the CAN-bus (Controller Area Network-bus) system will not be adversely affected by the new alternator, it's slightly higher voltage output (@14.05), it's higher amperage output, or your aftermarket equipment... they have been kept separate by the wiring!

I'd also like to advise everyone NOT to remove or replace any of the existing factory wiring; if you do that you are opening pandora's box and have no idea what future modular (ECU) problems you are creating for your prized 4Runner! :doh: So don't even think about doing that; I researched the subject long before I replaced my factory 130A alternator some two and a half years ago and I've had ZERO trouble regarding the new DC Power Engineering 270XP alternator or "The BIG Three" install since! So when you install your new alternator and the 4ga partner cables, 130 amps will still be available to the two stock fuseboxes (as the factory alternator had provided), and 140 additional amps will be available to the battery directly through the new 4ga cables, which in turn will keep the battery charged, and feed your aftermarket 'Add-on' loads.

Here's a sketch of the wiring build-up to give an idea of exactly what is to be done:

...and I'm adding a alternator upgrade link for those of you who may not have ever seen or read it; this thread explains exactly how the upgrade works... http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/172070-4runner-alternator-upgrade-gen-5-a.html Enjoy doing your electrical upgrade folks, it has much to offer you; higher capacity to run more equipment, you'll have more electrical current available at curbside idle (200A) than your 4Runner ever had at top speed (130A), and not one thing to be afraid of! If anyone has any trouble with any part of the upgrade or questions I'll be following this thread to advise or to do any needed research. If you don't want to ask certain questions on forum but would prefer a more... discrete exchange, feel free to PM me and we'll get it done that way. I'm not here to embarrass or to judge anyone, but rather to help in any way that I can so don't be a stranger folks, okay?

Looking fwd to helping as much as I can, so have fun!

rig

 

[Maverik159]

Please add my name to the list, I was just going to start the search for a direct replacement. I'm in and have funds now.

Thanks for posting this!

 

[Titanpat57]

Hi Patrick,

You're not the first person that has inquired about that! Truth is: Even electricity has rules to follow. As a result, we can predict exactly where it will go, how it will get there and why it has to do that! And yes(!), if you plan to use a H.O. alternator then you need to create a path for the higher volume of current (amperage) to travel through. But you never need to beef up the factory wiring that goes to either of the stock fuseboxes... they'll never see one milliAMP more than the Toyota electrical engineers had not planned for them to carry! However, all of our aftermarket accessories are sourcing their power supply directly from the battery; which will be fed directly from the much larger alternator that we've installed!

So the larger cables (4ga) will provide a new path for the higher volume of current to flow 'DIRECTLYT' to and from the positive and negative battery terminals and never affecting the factory wiring, fuses, relays, switches, electronics...etc! So just to be clear: "We are NOT going to alter any of the truck's factory electrical system. We are simply creating a new Auxillary electrical system for our high power consuming accessories to be managed and fed by! Also the CAN-bus (Controller Area Network-bus) system will not be adversely affected by the new alternator, it's slightly higher voltage output (@14.05), it's higher amperage output, or your aftermarket equipment... they have been kept separate by the wiring!

I'd also like to advise everyone NOT to remove or replace any of the existing factory wiring; if you do that you are opening pandora's box and have no idea what future modular (ECU) problems you are creating for your prized 4Runner! :doh: So don't even think about doing that; I researched the subject long before I replaced my factory 130A alternator some two and a half years ago and I've had ZERO trouble regarding the new DC Power Engineering 270XP alternator or "The BIG Three" install since! So when you install your new alternator and the 4ga partner cables, 130 amps will still be available to the two stock fuseboxes (as the factory alternator had been), and 140 additional amps will be available to the battery directly through a 4ga cables, which in turn will keep the battery charged, and feed you aftermarket 'Add-on' loads.

Here's a sketch of the wiring build-up to give an idea of exactly what is to be done:

...and I'm adding a alternator upgrade link for those of you who may not have ever seen or read it; this thread explains exactly how the upgrade works... http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/172070-4runner-alternator-upgrade-gen-5-a.html Enjoy doing your electrical upgrade folks, it has much to offer you; higher capacity to run more equipment, you'll have more electrical current available at curbside idle (200A) than your 4Runner ever had at top speed (130A), and not one thing to be afraid of! If anyone has any trouble with any part of the upgrade or questions I'll be following this thread to advise or to do any needed research needed. If you don't want to ask certain questions on forum but would prefer a more... discrete exchange, feel free to PM me and we'll get it done that way. I'm not here to embarrass or to judge anyone, but rather to help in any way that I can so don't be a stranger folks, okay?

Looking fwd to helping as much as I can, so have fun!

rig

[MENTION=83083]rigtec[/MENTION]

Thanks for the clarity there as well!