When you get those headers installed, take some video of the engine/exhaust sounds! I bet it would sound super awesome, especially since it's supercharged! 
Group buy for Doug Thorley PREMIUM VERSION headers, need 20 people!
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4Running335i
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I haven't heard anything yet. Hoping they just show up on my doorstep. Headers, y pipe, and cel eliminator spacers.
Edit: NVM they're on the way this week. Appreciate the call. To be clear I haven't initiated contact since I paid in August either. I was aware of the statuses by reading updates in this thread. Thanks again Jason.
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Edit: NVM they're on the way this week. Appreciate the call. To be clear I haven't initiated contact since I paid in August either. I was aware of the statuses by reading updates in this thread. Thanks again Jason.
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doofenshmirtz
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Mine will be here Friday, but my Titanium studs likely will not be here by then. I’ve got tracking on my CEL eliminates, but that’s not as juicy...
I may end up running mini-cats or a simulator anyway.
November Sun
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Tracking # says I should have mine by Friday. WoooHoooo!!!!:bluejump:
Marfy
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Hi everyone,
I’ve spoken again directly with people at Doug Thorley as I wanted to better understand what went on here. For those interested, here are excerpts from my email conversation for visibility. And, yes, they were okay with me posting this here.
“Lastly, I really do appreciate your patience. The delay has been very disrupting for me and the challenges here have been….lets say interesting. The order (premium group buy) was put on hold at one point as I do sales across all platforms and products for DTH. This includes our International market. During the time of the premium group buy getting finished with orders and the final details being submitted with Burtman, I had also closed two very larger international orders. This through giant wrench into our production process and timing. Not to mention our own stock. But, we are only a few weeks away from being back at full steam and should be good their after. My intent in the spring is to revisit the CARB legal matters on these trucks. The challenge has been the cost. The test alone is $10K and we try to keep our prices low to assist customers.”
Also:
“I know that I am telling you a lot that has no or little concern to you but you showed that your voice on the forum had a pretty big impact. Besides appreciating that you brought a flaw that we had to my attention to make right you also gave us and me the opportunity to correct a mistake and learn with our customers.”
So, firstly, I appreciate that they took the time to explain this to me and us. I’m also glad with how they handled all of this after I raised the issue.
I do not know why Jason didn’t just tell everyone what was going on. I assume he knew. What happened makes a lot of business sense and I feel like people here can understand that. I think there has been a lot of frustration with how long this dragged out because no one knew what was going on.
Anyway, I’m interested in hearing everyone’s thoughts. I’m glad they are getting shipped out now, but the communication break down leaves something to be desired...
I’ve spoken again directly with people at Doug Thorley as I wanted to better understand what went on here. For those interested, here are excerpts from my email conversation for visibility. And, yes, they were okay with me posting this here.
“Lastly, I really do appreciate your patience. The delay has been very disrupting for me and the challenges here have been….lets say interesting. The order (premium group buy) was put on hold at one point as I do sales across all platforms and products for DTH. This includes our International market. During the time of the premium group buy getting finished with orders and the final details being submitted with Burtman, I had also closed two very larger international orders. This through giant wrench into our production process and timing. Not to mention our own stock. But, we are only a few weeks away from being back at full steam and should be good their after. My intent in the spring is to revisit the CARB legal matters on these trucks. The challenge has been the cost. The test alone is $10K and we try to keep our prices low to assist customers.”
Also:
“I know that I am telling you a lot that has no or little concern to you but you showed that your voice on the forum had a pretty big impact. Besides appreciating that you brought a flaw that we had to my attention to make right you also gave us and me the opportunity to correct a mistake and learn with our customers.”
So, firstly, I appreciate that they took the time to explain this to me and us. I’m also glad with how they handled all of this after I raised the issue.
I do not know why Jason didn’t just tell everyone what was going on. I assume he knew. What happened makes a lot of business sense and I feel like people here can understand that. I think there has been a lot of frustration with how long this dragged out because no one knew what was going on.
Anyway, I’m interested in hearing everyone’s thoughts. I’m glad they are getting shipped out now, but the communication break down leaves something to be desired...
4RunnerAquasport
Senior Member
Good deal! Glad they put it out there. It's exactly how the first few days of the rust issues on the forum were. Jason was pretty quiet through it all and let DT make the first move. I think he has to tread lightly when situations like this arise and he has a good thing with DT he doesn't want to be soured. I definitely don't think Jason has any wrong intent and he needs to get some help for the communication aspect of this online instantaneous world we live in. But all that aside? I dig his enthusiasm and love for what us car guys do on a daily basis. [MENTION=9]Jason B[/MENTION] hire somebody bro! Lol you probably could use some sleep. 160 text msgs? Your killing your self lol!! Thanks again for helping us get this done! [MENTION=116567]Marfy[/MENTION] Thank You! You were a major player in this premium set getting done.
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I still haven't received an email or phone call with the tracking information or delivery times. I can work from home and would rather have the heads up on which day to do so to intercept the package. It seems that people are receiving their packages and have even gotten notification / tracking ahead of time.
Just wondering about mine. Thanks!
EDIT: Less than 5 minutes after I post this I get a text from Jason saying I'll have shipping info tomorrow!
Just wondering about mine. Thanks!
EDIT: Less than 5 minutes after I post this I get a text from Jason saying I'll have shipping info tomorrow!
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AuSeeker
Elite Member
[MENTION=116567]Marfy[/MENTION] could you possibly reach out to them again and ask if they plan on making any changes to the original design because of this to solve the rusting issues, or at the very least offer the modified sets as a future option?
This is question asked of Jason a few times with no answers from him.
doofenshmirtz
New member
The normal versions moving forward will be all stainless except for the 3/8” thick mounting flange. That’s the only unique aspect of the premium version. The air tubes were not stainless, then a couple of them rusted, and now they will all be stainless. Most of the documentation for this is in Marfy’s thread and not this one.
It’s also worth noting that DT does have a warranty that’ll replace the headers if they fail from rust at the flange. You’d still have to remove them and reinstall on your own dime though.
Going from memory here, so please correct me if I’ve gotten anything wrong here
JVC8790
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Got a voicemail from Jason letting me know mine were ready to ship via FedEx and that the o2 spacers would be shipping USPS separately. He was not able to advise on the shipping timeframe for the titanium stud kit I ordered but hopefully I won't get to the point where I'm waiting on the hardware to show up to install them. Still haven't seen any tracking information in my FedEx app yet, but fingers crossed I see them next week.
doofenshmirtz
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From my conversation with Jason, if you haven't already received tracking or delivery of the Titanium studs, then your studs are still in manufacturing. I think (speculation) we may have shocked the manufacturer with the sudden spike in orders for that specific set of parts.
I know for certain that I will have headers without studs for at least a few days.
Jason B
Official Vendor
Starting to feel like Christmas again I see. Love the photos.
If anyone wasn't sure, the SS flanges, which I have mentioned before, was the reason I was told the this buy took longer. Longer due to supplier being behind on the producing and shipping those SS flanges. If doug Thorley had some other reasons they may have given as to what contributed to the wait, then cool and I'm glad they shared those for whoever may have asked, as I didn't know of any other reasons. The reason these took longer - was because the SS flanges were late to come in and producing them from their supplier took way longer, which slowed stuff down.
If anyone wants an update that haven't gotten an email or a text from me, you can call or text me at 717-319-2100 all day today, tomorrow and friday
Originally, I told a lot of you that ordered more than one part, (high flow cats, Cel eliminators, Titanium Studs, Gibson Exhausts, etc that I was hoping to have all those type items ship together in one shipment. Meaning the cats, and or studs/cel eliminators all in one box at Doug Thorley. That didn't work out, so that means those other items are shipping separately as to not hold up the header orders. I'm fronting those costs on all those extra shipments and that's fine as I just want everyone to get all the items and it will be quicker this way. On the Titanium studs more are being made as we speak so, those that didn't get studs yet, will by next week, or shortly after. Still waiting for final eta on those. My cost on the studs has gone up quite a bit also, and the current price on the site is going to go up in probably a few days from now, when I get time to change it, so for those that haven't ordered Titanium studs/nuts, you'll save a little ordering sooner than later.
I spent a crap load of time petitioning with Doug Thorley to get these Premium Headers made. They didn't want to do it originally, as they rarely change from their normal methods of manufacturing. Finally after a lot of coaxing and pressure and me also telling customers to call them they agreed if I was able to get at least 20 people, they would do it. I have to say again it's very rare that any manufacture does this. Most are stubborn and just don't care, especially about a Toyota 4Runner where only 100k a year were made, vs say a ford explorer 500k a year made. I've dealt with many factories for a very long time and still can't believe they did it! I of course did also explain how Toyota 4Runner owners in particular, love their vehicles and hold to to them, for LIFE and made them see eye to eye and understand the culture there is with these vehicles. I still have my 1997 3rd gen 4Runner which I also will never sell. It's like an old shoe that fits perfect, wears well, never breaks, just like the 4th gen. But that 4th gen will now have bulletproof headers and aircraft titanium hardware for those that chose it
If anyone wasn't sure, the SS flanges, which I have mentioned before, was the reason I was told the this buy took longer. Longer due to supplier being behind on the producing and shipping those SS flanges. If doug Thorley had some other reasons they may have given as to what contributed to the wait, then cool and I'm glad they shared those for whoever may have asked, as I didn't know of any other reasons. The reason these took longer - was because the SS flanges were late to come in and producing them from their supplier took way longer, which slowed stuff down.
If anyone wants an update that haven't gotten an email or a text from me, you can call or text me at 717-319-2100 all day today, tomorrow and friday
Originally, I told a lot of you that ordered more than one part, (high flow cats, Cel eliminators, Titanium Studs, Gibson Exhausts, etc that I was hoping to have all those type items ship together in one shipment. Meaning the cats, and or studs/cel eliminators all in one box at Doug Thorley. That didn't work out, so that means those other items are shipping separately as to not hold up the header orders. I'm fronting those costs on all those extra shipments and that's fine as I just want everyone to get all the items and it will be quicker this way. On the Titanium studs more are being made as we speak so, those that didn't get studs yet, will by next week, or shortly after. Still waiting for final eta on those. My cost on the studs has gone up quite a bit also, and the current price on the site is going to go up in probably a few days from now, when I get time to change it, so for those that haven't ordered Titanium studs/nuts, you'll save a little ordering sooner than later.
I spent a crap load of time petitioning with Doug Thorley to get these Premium Headers made. They didn't want to do it originally, as they rarely change from their normal methods of manufacturing. Finally after a lot of coaxing and pressure and me also telling customers to call them they agreed if I was able to get at least 20 people, they would do it. I have to say again it's very rare that any manufacture does this. Most are stubborn and just don't care, especially about a Toyota 4Runner where only 100k a year were made, vs say a ford explorer 500k a year made. I've dealt with many factories for a very long time and still can't believe they did it! I of course did also explain how Toyota 4Runner owners in particular, love their vehicles and hold to to them, for LIFE and made them see eye to eye and understand the culture there is with these vehicles. I still have my 1997 3rd gen 4Runner which I also will never sell. It's like an old shoe that fits perfect, wears well, never breaks, just like the 4th gen. But that 4th gen will now have bulletproof headers and aircraft titanium hardware for those that chose it
LT1coupe
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kyle_pc_75
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Got mine today
doofenshmirtz
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Previous sets of instructions mention unbolting the engine mount on the side you’re installing and using a 2x4 to raise that side enough to fit, then reattach the engine mount.
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