TxRig13
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And what are those suggested precautions? I'm seriously interested to know. As I am wanting to go with the Relentless bumper which has a similar design.
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And what are those suggested precautions? I'm seriously interested to know. As I am wanting to go with the Relentless bumper which has a similar design.
BlackWorksInc
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[MENTION=114375]TxRig13[/MENTION]
I mentioned that he could install a flap/plate that protects the inlet/deflects the water more outward if it's getting thrown into the wheel wheel.
If I remember right, I think the some of the V6 Intakes on the newer FJs have a cone like intake that is cut open on the backside, so the side facing the front of the vehicle is more protected.
The idea here is to divert water away from the intake opening in the event of a water cross if you don't want to run a snorkel, because if you're just sitting in standing water you're gonna have more issues than just a blown motor anyways.
Oh, I think there was an "internal snorkel" mod someone did also; though I wouldn't recommend it.
I mentioned that he could install a flap/plate that protects the inlet/deflects the water more outward if it's getting thrown into the wheel wheel.
If I remember right, I think the some of the V6 Intakes on the newer FJs have a cone like intake that is cut open on the backside, so the side facing the front of the vehicle is more protected.
The idea here is to divert water away from the intake opening in the event of a water cross if you don't want to run a snorkel, because if you're just sitting in standing water you're gonna have more issues than just a blown motor anyways.
Oh, I think there was an "internal snorkel" mod someone did also; though I wouldn't recommend it.
chmura
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I would not quickly blame your aftermarket bumper at all, your speed was to blame and not your bumper. 15 mph is way to fast to ford 2+ feet of water.
Here is me fording 2.5 feet of water with an aftermarket bumper and stock intake. No issues at all.
When it comes to fording water the correct speed is the key. You do not want to go too slow or too fast. You want to create small bow wave in front of you when crossing something deep.
Here is me fording 2.5 feet of water with an aftermarket bumper and stock intake. No issues at all.
When it comes to fording water the correct speed is the key. You do not want to go too slow or too fast. You want to create small bow wave in front of you when crossing something deep.
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gm350reratliff
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First time: old 390 v8 ford. Probably 300k on it. Already smoking and knocking. Maybe 90 hp. Was revving kind of high going up a hill. I knew it was coming.
Second time: 302 v8 ford with a very loopy, high lift cam, hi-rise intake and a big 4-barrel carb. Not much money spent on the bottom end. The top end liked to rev, the bottom end didn't. I'm guessing around 400 hp.
Last time: built 383 GM with a pro charger. Ran like a dream. Had about 10k on it. Was merging onto a freeway one day and it just blew. Not sure what happened. Was about 435 hp. I really miss the pull that engine had.
OP- if it makes you feel any better, there have also been people who have hydrolocked with a stock bumper as well. Unfortunately, the fender well and intake just isn't designed for fast and deep water crossings. I think a sheild of some type would help prevent stuff like this, especially with an aftermarket bumper. Of course, slowing down will help the most though. I've taken my 4th gen through some really high water before with no water ingestion issues. The rear wheel bearings didn't like the deep water though.
I would not quickly blame your aftermarket bumper at all, your speed was to blame and not your bumper. 15 mph is way to fast to ford 2+ feet of water.
Here is me fording 2.5 feet of water with an aftermarket bumper and stock intake. No issues at all.
When it comes to fording water the correct speed is the key. You do not want to go too slow or too fast. You want to create small bow wave in front of you when crossing something deep.
I hear ya, but that particular bumper left me with a bad taste even though I have only myself to blame for what happened.
I have other things to look forward to after getting rid of the bumper, i.e. Better gas mileage, lighter steering wheel.
This same thing happened to me last week. Currently waiting for new engine to be installed.
I am now a huge advocate for snorkels if you have a front bumper. Yes speed would have helped in OPs situation and mine but nonetheless I realized how exposed and vulnerable the intake is...
I am now a huge advocate for snorkels if you have a front bumper. Yes speed would have helped in OPs situation and mine but nonetheless I realized how exposed and vulnerable the intake is...
If you need any tips on how to pull it, first things first: I could not pull the motor without removing the transfer case from the transmission and then removing the transmission and engine together. The top transmission to engine bolts (bell housing bolts) proved impossible to get to until lifting both engine and transmission at least half way out.
Pulling the motor and transmission out pulled the firewall insulation out of place and stretched it from its seams. Putting the new motor and original transmission in tore the firewall insualtion off. If you haven't done so already, remove the firewall insulation (4+ plastic nuts on firewall imbedded bolts), then attempt to reinstall right before the engine and transmission sits in place. I dont have that opportunity and have to figure out a way install OEM insulation or patch where I can reach...
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BlackWorksInc
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So, I was poking my head in my fender well the other day and noticed that on my '04 the Intake opening is pointing towards the rear of the vehicle (it's a sort of 90* elbow) like I mentioned earlier.
You'd have to funnel a significant amount of water into the fender well to get it sucked up with how it's designed. Just something I figured I'd mention.
You'd have to funnel a significant amount of water into the fender well to get it sucked up with how it's designed. Just something I figured I'd mention.
