GX460 Motor in our 5th Gen?
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Jetboy
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I think the real world hit is a lot more. Both from what I've read and what the dealer said they generally see.
We also own an RX350 - and I rarely break 20mpg with it. It's maybe 1mpg better than the 4runner with my typical driving.
Just my experience. If I were going to ignore the MPG I'd probably just buy a 200 series.
philsey
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The motor has gotten me to look at the GX twice. And both times I just can't get past the barn door. Stupid stupid design. Well, and the fluff too.
Bevo
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I had an FJ and the barn door isn't all that bad. As a matter of fact sometimes it was more convenient than a hatch.
DesertCanyons
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GX460 vs T4R
The power of the GX460 is tempting. And it's only $12,000 more than a T4R TE. The tow hitch is $600 extra. It weighs 400# more, probably due to the bigger engine and rear axle, the mandatory 3rd row seat and some of that interior fluff.
The higher torque occurs at a much lower RPM (3500 vs. 4700), which is better for power at low range in 4WD. The transfer case is more like the T4R Limited, with a TORSEN limited-slip center differential with electronic differential lock. From that I gather it can lock the front and rear axles but I can't tell if it's got a locking rear differential (not likely). It's got full time 4WD hi and low.
My friend who has a GX460 bought a 2 or 3 year old used model. I see the 2015 GX460 have KDSS so not sure why he needed to add a sway bar disconnect? He did rip off his running boards on a tough trail and had to rebuild them with a rock slider he made from tube. He's still got the running boards in about the same place.
Not sure if you can even remove the running boards and low body fender/mud flap behind the front wheel? But if you could, who sells a rock slider for the GX460?
The wheels are 18x7.5 so the tire choices may be more limited than the 17x7.5 wheels on the T4R.
If we could put that V8 and 6-speed in front of the Trail Edition transfer case, now that would be a fun car. But at what cost $$$? Not sure if you'd need a bigger rear axle for the 6500 # towing capacity?
I'll take the T4R TE.
The power of the GX460 is tempting. And it's only $12,000 more than a T4R TE. The tow hitch is $600 extra. It weighs 400# more, probably due to the bigger engine and rear axle, the mandatory 3rd row seat and some of that interior fluff.
The higher torque occurs at a much lower RPM (3500 vs. 4700), which is better for power at low range in 4WD. The transfer case is more like the T4R Limited, with a TORSEN limited-slip center differential with electronic differential lock. From that I gather it can lock the front and rear axles but I can't tell if it's got a locking rear differential (not likely). It's got full time 4WD hi and low.
My friend who has a GX460 bought a 2 or 3 year old used model. I see the 2015 GX460 have KDSS so not sure why he needed to add a sway bar disconnect? He did rip off his running boards on a tough trail and had to rebuild them with a rock slider he made from tube. He's still got the running boards in about the same place.
Not sure if you can even remove the running boards and low body fender/mud flap behind the front wheel? But if you could, who sells a rock slider for the GX460?
The wheels are 18x7.5 so the tire choices may be more limited than the 17x7.5 wheels on the T4R.
If we could put that V8 and 6-speed in front of the Trail Edition transfer case, now that would be a fun car. But at what cost $$$? Not sure if you'd need a bigger rear axle for the 6500 # towing capacity?
I'll take the T4R TE.
chmura
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GX460 does not have rear locking differential.
Off road capability the 4runner TE wins because of the rear e-locker.
Jetboy
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Everything for a Land Cruiser Prado will fit the GX460. Including the rocker trim. There's a few write ups on IH8MUD regarding this swap over of parts. So you can get all the offroad goodies you want if you have the $ to buy all the parts and have em shipped from a more land cruiser friendly market.
What's kinda funny is that almost every other market has a Prado with the 4.0L v6. Even the LC70 is usually a 4.0L when it has a gas engine.
TheWraith
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yeah I thought I post "4.6Liter V8 w/ the ecu " ...
DesertCanyons
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Use trans from GX460
I'd prefer to use the 6-speed trans from the GX460 with that V8. Why not use the ECU from the Lexus and then hook the T4R differential connectors into that ECU? I have to admit, I am clueless about the ECU and interrelated connections to it.
And at what cost $$$? Replace the engine and trans from a perfectly good T4R? You'd be trying to sell the 4.0L to recoup some of your costs.
I'd prefer to use the 6-speed trans from the GX460 with that V8. Why not use the ECU from the Lexus and then hook the T4R differential connectors into that ECU? I have to admit, I am clueless about the ECU and interrelated connections to it.
And at what cost $$$? Replace the engine and trans from a perfectly good T4R? You'd be trying to sell the 4.0L to recoup some of your costs.
TheWraith
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Dr. Tweak use to do custom harnesses back in the day ... I wonder if he would do this ????
Tweakd Performance Online Store
blackpearl2007
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Isn't there some speculation that the next gen 4Runner will have a V8? I haven't done much research but thought that was the case.
wfo9
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I seriously doubt it. I would expect a smaller v6 with similar power numbers.
blackpearl2007
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Yeah, I agree unfortunately. Should have kept my 2007 V8 4Runner as well....
Hellamatic
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I'll go out on a limb and say it's never going to happen. V6s are becoming so efficient and powerful now that the 2 extra cylinders aren't even worth it (although 8s are generally torquier.) The times, they are a-changing.
For example, my 96 Ram I used to have was a 5.9L V8 with 235hp. Granted, that was 20 years ago, but we're spoiled with our 400hp V8s these days, haha.
I'd even go as far as speculating that the V8 is going to be a distant memory of the past (aside from niche performance vehicles) in 20 years. It sucks, but that's how the world is starting to turn.
Buying a GX and adding a locker would be a lot easier and would maintain resale. The 4.6 is not a monster. Mated with the 6 speed it is only adequate for the 460. The 4.7 felt better but had lower mpg apparently. 5.7 swap or don't bother. Or SC if you have those kind of retrofit dollars.
kapp_badbloodz
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Just LS(x) swap it... every other vehicle has been LS swapped.
If you need to ask why.... because racecar that's why
If you need to ask why.... because racecar that's why
