Holy Crap my Frame is gone.

Rob241

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Hi I'm new here;
I own a 1998 Toyota 4Runner, love the truck hate the rust.

Does anyone know how much it would cost to have a new frame installed on my 4Runner, and also where someone could purchase a frame for this beautiful beast of mine. Thanks:fish:
 
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Get a new frame at the junkyard. Having a shop do the swap will likely be more than your truck is worth. Is your frame beyond repair?
 
The desert - where cars live forever

Seriously though, I bought a 2000 4Runner from Massachusetts with a little rust. It was nowhere near falling apart but it was such a nightmare to deal with.

Buy a CA frame and galvanize.... dip the whole sucker
 
Well if it were me...

1) Pay to have frame fixed if possible, seal well afterwards.
2) Buy a new 4runner if your not too insanely attached to that one.
3) Try to get a junker with a good frame or frame itself for cheap and then make it a huge personal project to rebuild from the ground up (Will need a second car for a few months! :D)

I watch those restoration car shows and if I was like retired or something, would love to do a complete rebuild like that. Though I'd have to REALLY love my old runner and have big plans for it. Maybe turn it into a real desert racer or something :)

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Well, I know Toyota pays the techs roughly 50 hours of labor to do the frame swaps for the vehicles covered under the recalls, and Toyota warranty pay is generally around 2/3 what customer pay would be. I would bet on at least 50-70 hours of labor cost at whatever their labor rate is. Probably in the realm of $6-7k honestly. That's just labor. Then add in the cost of the frame and any other components too messed up or seized to transfer. Unless you're so in love with your truck you never ever plan on getting rid of it, I wouldn't pay the dealer to do the frame swap. I'd just get another truck. I'm surprised the 4Runners aren't included in the recall campaigns, but then again, the rust on them, while significant on many, doesn't compare to the rust issues on the Tacomas, Tundras, and Sequoias. I still think it's something they should do something about though.
 
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Well, I know Toyota pays the techs roughly 50 hours of labor to do the frame swaps for the vehicles covered under the recalls, and Toyota warranty pay is generally around 2/3 what customer pay would be. I would bet on at least 50-70 hours of labor cost at whatever their labor rate is. Probably in the realm of $6-7k honestly. That's just labor. Then add in the cost of the frame and any other components too messed up or seized to transfer. Unless you're so in love with your truck you never ever plan on getting rid of it, I wouldn't pay the dealer to do the frame swap. I'd just get another truck. I'm surprised the 4Runners aren't included in the recall campaigns, but then again, the rust on them, while significant on many, doesn't compare to the rust issues on the Tacomas, Tundras, and Sequoias. I still think it's something they should do something about though.

I owned a body shop for a long time, we changed out frames on Chevys and Fords for about 2G. Of course we weren't working on a rusted out frame, but I'll do it for 3 thousand. Drive it on out to California!

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I owned a body shop for a long time, we changed out frames on Chevys and Fords for about 2G. Of course we weren't working on a rusted out frame, but I'll do it for 3 thousand. Drive it on out to California!

:popcorn:

Yeah, it's a doable thing. I'd replace one myself if I really loved my truck, but I don't see the dealer budging much. Any tech would likely quote at least the warranty rate, and likely a bit higher. For $3k it might be worth it to pull the trigger. That rust is the real pain though. The smell of burning rubber and metal, rust and dirt on everything in sight, and a cutting wheel graveyard are the usual scene.
 
Since 4runner frame has holes, and its a open frame where weather and water can get inside. Is there a way or is it smart to let's sat seal the frame as on weld up the openings so it doesn't rust from inside ?

I live in nj and my frame is clean. But I wash my car weekly almost and spray wd40 Herr and there. Can normal water create demage vs humidity or salt water or salty atmosphere?
 
Corrosion

Since 4runner frame has holes, and its a open frame where weather and water can get inside. Is there a way or is it smart to let's sat seal the frame as on weld up the openings so it doesn't rust from inside ?

I live in nj and my frame is clean. But I wash my car weekly almost and spray wd40 Herr and there. Can normal water create demage vs humidity or salt water or salty atmosphere?

Corrosion takes place where a metal meets water and oxygen. So water in-terms of liquid or vapor with atmospheric oxygen corrodes the metal. Salt water is a very good conductor of electricity than water, so this speeds up the movement of electrons from anode (where oxidation occurs: removal of electrons) to cathode (where reduction occurs: accept electrons). As a result corrosion is 5-10 times faster when salt water is present.

I too apply WD-40 once in a while (make sure the frame is dry). This makes an oil film between the metal and the environment preventing water and air to touch the metal. You can spray trans oil too but it smells bad but stays for years without getting washed out.
 

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So this 4runner had rust before ? Can u give more details about this product ? Is it paint ? How does it work ? What did u use ? Spray can ? Or..
. Where u get it
 
So this 4runner had rust before ? Can u give more details about this product ? Is it paint ? How does it work ? What did u use ? Spray can ? Or..
. Where u get it

It did not have any rust (which is why I bought it from AZ, all the ones locally are rusted out.) It will prevent rust from starting, and stop it from spreading.

Fluid-Film.com

The nice thing about it is that, compared to something like POR-15, it is much easier to apply. Get a gallon of it and a spray gun, get the truck in the air, and just blast away. Should be done once or twice per year to keep a nice coat on. I cover everything in Fluid Film, and any spots of rust that do show up, I treat with POR-15, which takes longer to apply, but it's permanent. So far, only had to do that on some parts of the driveshaft that were facing up the first time I sprayed the FF on.
 
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