Hope for the best prepare for the worst.How are you prepping for the covid-19 virus.

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Where you getting this 98% survival rate from?

It's not exactly been a secret that 1% to 2% of people die from the coronavirus.

But in response to Dan.3, yes it is worth it. SARS wasn't as infectious. The coronavirus is very infectious. SARS also wasn't overrunning hospitals.

1% of not many people is not many people, but 1% of everyone is huge.
 
Yes if you catch it early and not let it spread for 3 months.

But is it really necessary for a virus with a 98% survival rate???? SARS had much higher death rate and nothing shut down. But it wasn't an election year for the Democrats either. Coincidence?

Cigarettes, alcohol, and junk food are far more deadlier than this virus. Just saying.

Edit: Is it really necessary for everyone for a virus with a 98% survival rate.

No one is forcing you... Cigs, booze, and junk food may be far deadlier but those are all things we can control… It’s when can’t control things, it becomes a problem.

That said, I could really use a burger, beer, and a cigarette right about now. And just because I want that doesn’t means I want Coronavirus.

In all seriousness… Trying to work from home at a limited capacity blows and I can’t wait to get back to the office, I can’t wait to get my staff back into full productivity. All of this is effecting EVERYONE and causing a bunch of turmoil; BUT I understand that it’s necessary even from my perspective as a business owner. I rather have a struggling team than a dead team. I don’t like it, but the consequences of not following thru could be too great.

I really try NOT to clutter my mind with all the overload of Covid coverage in the news, but I have a bunch of friends and family in healthcare, and I get unfiltered commentary from them and it’s pretty bad. Sometimes it sound like people might be blowing things out of proportion, but when people you love (who work in infectious diseases and are responsible for ICU patient care) are telling you the hospital they work at went from one N95 per day to 1 per week, it a cause for alarm. They tell me about people who they had in their ICU that died. I can see its effecting them, yet they keep going in and working. I feel for them, and if my part is to stay home and help flatten the curve, I’ll do it, because I really don’t want to be them right now.

Truth be told, election year or not, we ****ed up our early response to this. If I had this information well ahead of time, you better believe the US Gov did as well. I have been dealing with concerned customers since this all started as a large portion of my business supply chain is global (China and Italy), and our organization was already in soft quarantine a week before the US even announced the first shelter in place. It really didn’t take much to convince me that this was serious, and should be taken seriously, and I’m in the “let’s get back to work ASAP” camp.

On top of all that, my bank still hasn’t been able to process my SBA loan application. I had my paperwork together was ready to move on this Friday of last week.

It's going to be a slow climb out of this hole, and we all have to work together to do it. The only way do it it faster is to stack the dead bodies and use them as stairs.
 
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It's not exactly been a secret that 1% to 2% of people die from the coronavirus.

But in response to Dan.3, yes it is worth it. SARS wasn't as infectious. The coronavirus is very infectious. SARS also wasn't overrunning hospitals.

1% of not many people is not many people, but 1% of everyone is huge.

Can't claim anything is "worth it" just yet. Still have to build the economy. Then there's all that pesky debt to deal with.
 
If this is a half assed attempt at an economic shutdown, would hate to see a full assed attempt.

Did I see somewhere in this thread that the full assed attempt in China was 76 days in length?

If it took China 76 days to get things under control with full totalitarian lockdown, how long will it take us to get to the same point?

In driving around Denver metro this past weekend, because it was 70 degrees out, it looked like a regular day in some areas. People hanging out like a normal day, no masks, and not abiding by social distancing guidelines. I would like to think half assed is all we need but that is not confidence inspiring.
 
I am beyond ill with these bureaucratic communist liberals telling us what we can do and when we can do it.
For the past several years beyond "Occupy Wall Street" I have tried to be a centrist. It's not working. This fiasco is the end of me trying. I'm going back to my Reagan Era, full boat, conservative roots.
 
It's not exactly been a secret that 1% to 2% of people die from the coronavirus.

But in response to Dan.3, yes it is worth it. SARS wasn't as infectious. The coronavirus is very infectious. SARS also wasn't overrunning hospitals.

1% of not many people is not many people, but 1% of everyone is huge.

Do you know the population of this country today? It’s around 331 million people. One % death rate over several months would be catastrophic.
 
I am beyond ill with these bureaucratic communist liberals telling us what we can do and when we can do it.
For the past several years beyond "Occupy Wall Street" I have tried to be a centrist. It's not working. This fiasco is the end of me trying. I'm going back to my Reagan Era, full boat, conservative roots.

Your in Jersey, thought you would be used to it. (NY refuge, myself)
 
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Your in Jersey, thought you would be used to it. (NY refuge, myself)


My business has been directly influenced by these butt smooching liberal know it all Obama leftovers. I have a $38K 4 Runner sitting in my driveway that I cannot use because I cannot get a god damn license plate
 
I don't think its a question of "social distancing" working, i mean sacrificing 8 out of ten individuals to a volcano god will work. The question, is it worth it? In the end the answer will be "yes", because it has to be. What ever spin they will put on this plandemic to make everyone feel warm and fuzzy and lets the political overlords pretend they did a good job while enriching themselves more at the expense if their subjects.

How about for the time being we make a ground rule wherein we all agree to not reference conspiracy theories or questionable source material.

Agreed?


Man for someone in the Army you sure are defeatist. Wait didn't you way you were in Louisiana? An assignment like that would distort my viewpoint on life quite a bit I'd imagine.
 
How about for the time being we make a ground rule wherein we all agree to not reference conspiracy theories or questionable source material.

Agreed?


Man for someone in the Army you sure are defeatist. Wait didn't you way you were in Louisiana? An assignment like that would distort my viewpoint on life quite a bit I'd imagine.


Like we used to say at Ford Testing in Dearborn.. "go piss up a rope"
Talk shit. Get called out.
And especially here we dont need any bureaucrat telling us how to post.
 
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How about for the time being we make a ground rule wherein we all agree to not reference conspiracy theories or questionable source material.

Agreed?


Man for someone in the Army you sure are defeatist. Wait didn't you way you were in Louisiana? An assignment like that would distort my viewpoint on life quite a bit I'd imagine.

I just like keeping it real. Calling it as i see it. Never enjoyed someone pissing on my head and telling me its raining. Congress has already shown, they will not let this crisis go to waste. Two trillion and the money for the business bail out is already running out?
 
Utah Gov Gary Herbert issued an executive order for all adults entering the state to register their travel plans with the state regardless off how they cone into the state.
 
Did I see somewhere in this thread that the full assed attempt in China was 76 days in length?

If it took China 76 days to get things under control with full totalitarian lockdown, how long will it take us to get to the same point?

In driving around Denver metro this past weekend, because it was 70 degrees out, it looked like a regular day in some areas. People hanging out like a normal day, no masks, and not abiding by social distancing guidelines. I would like to think half assed is all we need but that is not confidence inspiring.

Are you serious? You believe the #s China states along with their market messages?

Wow.

Plus, we can’t even believe the #s coming from the US. They’re just made up at this point.
 
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How about for the time being we make a ground rule wherein we all agree to not reference conspiracy theories or questionable source material.

Agreed?.

Sure, because we’d have to ignore cnn, msnbc, cbs, nbc, abc, pbs, NY times, Washington post, yahoo news, ap, Reuters, and Bloomberg for starters.

All of them had multiple “reporters” outed by Wikileaks for taking orders from and vetting stories with D politicians.
 
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People, this is NOT a red v blue thing. I'm so tired of that arguement. It's ALL OF THEM. Let's go over some things:

2008, banks F-up in housing. Market crashes. Pensions vanish. $900,000,000,000 taxpayer bailout. Nice.

2020, covid shows up. Market crashes. Pensions vanish. $2,000,000,000,000 phase one bailout.
$500,000,000,000 to "corporations"
$600,000,000,000 to the citizens... Who will spend the money on Amazon, or Walmart or with a bank to pay mortgage... So the big guys get the money AGAIN, this time 2 different ways!

And people want to bicker whether it's a D vs R? The color of one's f*cking tie is meaningless. They're all paid for. That being said, you can't pay taxes if you're dead so it behooves the "leaders" to save lives and therefore save their own checkbooks.

Edit: just realized a great observation for those hard core right wingers: what party politician was in office in 2008 and 2020? Hmmm
 
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