Hope for the best prepare for the worst.How are you prepping for the covid-19 virus.

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The state of Colorado declared a health emergency and cancelled the St Patrick's day parade. Got me thinking.I went to Costco on my lunch, they were out of paper towels, toilet paper, water, hydrogen peroxide and some canned goods. What would you do?.
Had to go back to post #1 to see what this thread was about.
I have always tried to stock up on essentials and things we always use. Preferably when on sale.
The Wife and kids were content to run to the store all the time.
Now we live rural. Quite rural. So the family has gotten a little better at buying in bulk when we go in to town.
Fortunately I had just gotten my quarterly bonus check and we had stocked up.
Now with the low stock at stores the family has come around even more.
We are also moving to become a bit more self-sufficient with a chicken coop and a greenhouse.
Our Achilles heel is water. I'm trying to save for a well but the water table is deep (expensive).
A work in progress.

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Im not going to jump on you.

My problem is that incompetent bureaucrats shut down the DMV "to prevent the spread..blah blah blah " without any kind of plan to provide all services. I would also like to point out that they were passing a law to let illegals get licenses in December. They should have been of preparing for the this mess.

The market is another story. Im not very concerned about it. It will come back.

Since we’re living in dangerous times, why not drive your new 4R anyway? It needs to have all its fluids heated and circulated, brakes scrubbed of rust, and battery recharged. If you get pulled over explain to the cop your dilemma. If you get a ticket you’re gonna have a long time to deal with it. I bet the traffic courts in your state are closed also. If and when you do go to court explain it to the judge, who would probably be reasonable and dismiss it. If not, think of a fine as a user fee. Pay it and be happy for all the time you’ve had driving your great new vehicle on empty roads. Go for it!
 
No one is forcing you... Cigs, booze, and junk food may be far deadlier but those are all things we can controlÂ… ItÂ’s when canÂ’t control things, it becomes a problem.

That said, I could really use a burger, beer, and a cigarette right about now. And just because I want that doesnÂ’t means I want Coronavirus.

In all seriousnessÂ… Trying to work from home at a limited capacity blows and I canÂ’t wait to get back to the office, I canÂ’t wait to get my staff back into full productivity. All of this is effecting EVERYONE and causing a bunch of turmoil; BUT I understand that itÂ’s necessary even from my perspective as a business owner. I rather have a struggling team than a dead team. I donÂ’t like it, but the consequences of not following thru could be too great.

I really try NOT to clutter my mind with all the overload of Covid coverage in the news, but I have a bunch of friends and family in healthcare, and I get unfiltered commentary from them and itÂ’s pretty bad. Sometimes it sound like people might be blowing things out of proportion, but when people you love (who work in infectious diseases and are responsible for ICU patient care) are telling you the hospital they work at went from one N95 per day to 1 per week, it a cause for alarm. They tell me about people who they had in their ICU that died. I can see its effecting them, yet they keep going in and working. I feel for them, and if my part is to stay home and help flatten the curve, IÂ’ll do it, because I really donÂ’t want to be them right now.

Truth be told, election year or not, we ****ed up our early response to this. If I had this information well ahead of time, you better believe the US Gov did as well. I have been dealing with concerned customers since this all started as a large portion of my business supply chain is global (China and Italy), and our organization was already in soft quarantine a week before the US even announced the first shelter in place. It really didn’t take much to convince me that this was serious, and should be taken seriously, and I’m in the “let’s get back to work ASAP” camp.

On top of all that, my bank still hasnÂ’t been able to process my SBA loan application. I had my paperwork together was ready to move on this Friday of last week.

It's going to be a slow climb out of this hole, and we all have to work together to do it. The only way do it it faster is to stack the dead bodies and use them as stairs.

Take away the junk food, booze, vapors, and cigs, all things that directly contribute to hypertension, diabetes, COPD and you have over a 99% survival rate. But what you are saying is that its NOT OK for the government to tell you what to eat and drink or smoke but its OK for the government to tell you how you should operate your business, if you should be open or closed, or where you can or cant go. Sorry cant have your cake and eat it too.

Social distancing in mid March is like going down to the bottom of the ocean to plug the holes in the Titanic and the Democrats saying "Its ok!! We fixed the problem and are saving lives". The public was well informed of this issues with the virus in January. As soon as South Korea start distancing is when the US should but the Democrats have had other plans in the works and decided to wait.
 
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Had to go back to post #1 to see what this thread was about.
I have always tried to stock up on essentials and things we always use. Preferably when on sale.
The Wife and kids were content to run to the store all the time.
Now we live rural. Quite rural. So the family has gotten a little better at buying in bulk when we go in to town.
Fortunately I had just gotten my quarterly bonus check and we had stocked up.
Now with the low stock at stores the family has come around even more.
We are also moving to become a bit more self-sufficient with a chicken coop and a greenhouse.
Our Achilles heel is water. I'm trying to save for a well but the water table is deep (expensive).
A work in progress.

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We want to do what you are doing. I've been looking at rural properties online. It's easy to go on in life and loose sight of forseeable risk because of the comfort of routine. I think my family and others will have a different mind set going forward. We managed to beat the curve and stocked up just before the rush.
 
Since we’re living in dangerous times, why not drive your new 4R anyway? It needs to have all its fluids heated and circulated, brakes scrubbed of rust, and battery recharged. If you get pulled over explain to the cop your dilemma. If you get a ticket you’re gonna have a long time to deal with it. I bet the traffic courts in your state are closed also. If and when you do go to court explain it to the judge, who would probably be reasonable and dismiss it. If not, think of a fine as a user fee. Pay it and be happy for all the time you’ve had driving your great new vehicle on empty roads. Go for it!


I drive it up and down the drive way accelerating and braking for 10-15 minutes until the temp gauge gets to normal operating temperature every few days or after it stops raining.

See up here Northern New Jersey they will tow your car if you don't have the correct registration. They set up fish traps on the roads, they sit at lights in teams etc. real crazy about this here - Seig Heil! Papers! Show me your papers! .

If (when) they caught me the car would probably go to impound until I got registration and during which time I would be getting a storage fee, the truck would be getting bumped up and scratched etc. It would probably cost $3000 in tickets and fees when it was all over with.

I had a lapse on my window sticker one time in my own borough, 5 blocks from my house. They made me park the car in a lot (it was a fish trap) with a bunch of other offenders and I had to walk home with all of the groceries I had and find the thing they mailed me and register my car on line. I walked back and there was a cop at the end of lot making sure the cars were registered before they were driven away. I would imagine many were towed.

You can get "New Jersey temp plates" in New York if you check on line. I doubt they are real but they will get you around in New York. I don't need to get involved with that.
 
Take away the junk food, booze, vapors, and cigs, all things that directly contribute to hypertension, diabetes, COPD and you have over a 99% survival rate. But what you are saying is that its NOT OK for the government to tell you what to eat and drink or smoke what its OK for the government to tell you how you should operate your business, if you should be open or closed, or where you can or cant go. Sorry cant have your cake and eat it too.

Social distancing in mid March is like going down to the bottom of the ocean to plug the holes in the Titanic and the Democrats saying "Its ok!! We fixed the problem is fixed and are saving lives". The public was well informed of this issues with the virus in January. As soon as South Korea start distancing is when the US should but the Democrats have had other plans in the works and decided to wait.

Please go back and re-read my post in full. You are putting words in my mouth and taking things of out context. I never said I was OK with any of this.

I already addressed how I feel regarding "the response" to this and how we as an organization prepared ourselves for this well ahead of any "official" recommendations from the state or federal authorities.

Upon first whiff of this situation I starting taking the appropriate actions to exercise some risk management strategies, both personally and for my business.

I didn't have to be told what to do because I used my brain and could see that a fumble was coming. What I am currently doing in this situation, including social distancing is by choice. I am accountable for my actions, and feel I am making the right moves based on the information I have.

Fact of the matter is the situation is what it is, this is the hand we are dealt. How you choose to play it, will define how you come out of the other end.
 
I drive it up and down the drive way accelerating and braking for 10-15 minutes until the temp gauge gets to normal operating temperature every few days or after it stops raining.

See up here Northern New Jersey they will tow your car if you don't have the correct registration. They set up fish traps on the roads, they sit at lights in teams etc. real crazy about this here - Seig Heil! Papers! Show me your papers! .

If (when) they caught me the car would probably go to impound until I got registration and during which time I would be getting a storage fee, the truck would be getting bumped up and scratched etc. It would probably cost $3000 in tickets and fees when it was all over with.

I had a lapse on my window sticker one time in my own borough, 5 blocks from my house. They made me park the car in a lot (it was a fish trap) with a bunch of other offenders and I had to walk home with all of the groceries I had and find the thing they mailed me and register my car on line. I walked back and there was a cop at the end of lot making sure the cars were registered before they were driven away. I would imagine many were towed.

You can get "New Jersey temp plates" in New York if you check on line. I doubt they are real but they will get you around in New York. I don't need to get involved with that.

That’s awful. My condolences.
 
The reason I ask is because you posted a list of agencies you have a problem with yet the only other options after that are...... conservative.

I think you don't realize how far right you are.

Your mind reading and phycological profiling capabilities are impressive LOL

Please reread the posts. I posted a fact, not some rumor or far right spin or my opinion. I’m not in favor of self censorship.

Perhaps to you I appear far right because you’re so far left but are under the illusion of being in the center?
 
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I drive it up and down the drive way accelerating and braking for 10-15 minutes until the temp gauge gets to normal operating temperature every few days or after it stops raining.

See up here Northern New Jersey they will tow your car if you don't have the correct registration. They set up fish traps on the roads, they sit at lights in teams etc. real crazy about this here - Seig Heil! Papers! Show me your papers! .

If (when) they caught me the car would probably go to impound until I got registration and during which time I would be getting a storage fee, the truck would be getting bumped up and scratched etc. It would probably cost $3000 in tickets and fees when it was all over with.

I had a lapse on my window sticker one time in my own borough, 5 blocks from my house. They made me park the car in a lot (it was a fish trap) with a bunch of other offenders and I had to walk home with all of the groceries I had and find the thing they mailed me and register my car on line. I walked back and there was a cop at the end of lot making sure the cars were registered before they were driven away. I would imagine many were towed.

You can get "New Jersey temp plates" in New York if you check on line. I doubt they are real but they will get you around in New York. I don't need to get involved with that.

Yep Neo Na2i state. I worked for NJSP Aviation unit for 10 yrs out of KTTN.
 
I drive it up and down the drive way accelerating and braking for 10-15 minutes until the temp gauge gets to normal operating temperature every few days or after it stops raining.

See up here Northern New Jersey they will tow your car if you don't have the correct registration. They set up fish traps on the roads, they sit at lights in teams etc. real crazy about this here - Seig Heil! Papers! Show me your papers! .

If (when) they caught me the car would probably go to impound until I got registration and during which time I would be getting a storage fee, the truck would be getting bumped up and scratched etc. It would probably cost $3000 in tickets and fees when it was all over with.

I had a lapse on my window sticker one time in my own borough, 5 blocks from my house. They made me park the car in a lot (it was a fish trap) with a bunch of other offenders and I had to walk home with all of the groceries I had and find the thing they mailed me and register my car on line. I walked back and there was a cop at the end of lot making sure the cars were registered before they were driven away. I would imagine many were towed.

You can get "New Jersey temp plates" in New York if you check on line. I doubt they are real but they will get you around in New York. I don't need to get involved with that.

This is the type of stuff my neighbors used to talk about, plus extreme taxation on everything, that led them to flee NJ over 40 years ago (and they grew up there). I dunno, makes me wonder why anyone would live there... but I once said the same about Houston, yet here I am. :wacko: Still not as bad as NJ - from what I'm told. :madgrin:
 
We want to do what you are doing. I've been looking at rural properties online. It's easy to go on in life and loose sight of forseeable risk because of the comfort of routine. I think my family and others will have a different mind set going forward. We managed to beat the curve and stocked up just before the rush.
I also bought a bidet to solve the TP issue. Easier on the septic tank too.
Here's the coop/henhouse.
Horse stable & barn we built last year in the background
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I also bought a bidet to solve the TP issue. Easier on the septic tank too.
Here's the coop/henhouse.
Horse stable & barn we built last year in the background
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That all looks amazing. you got some skillz. That kind of property would be a dream. I also bought the bidet attachments for existing toilets they are okay not as good as a fully functional bidet. The kids refuse to use them and the wife wants one that is temp control which will require some demolition work.
 
That all looks amazing. you got some skillz. That kind of property would be a dream. I also bought the bidet attachments for existing toilets they are okay not as good as a fully functional bidet. The kids refuse to use them and the wife wants one that is temp control which will require some demolition work.

Do you have electrical nearby or on the other (back) side of the wall?
 
This is the type of stuff my neighbors used to talk about, plus extreme taxation on everything, that led them to flee NJ over 40 years ago (and they grew up there). I dunno, makes me wonder why anyone would live there... but I once said the same about Houston, yet here I am. :wacko: Still not as bad as NJ - from what I'm told. :madgrin:

Yeah, NJ. Especially NYC area NJ. This ish is for the birds. I'm getting out of here once this virus blows over. It's just one big, dense bullseye that you've got to pay way too much to pray you don't get screwed one way or the other. I've had in my lifetime Timothy McVeigh the first World Trade Center bombing, 9/11, the bomber from a few years ago, and now this coronavirus. I'm not sticking around for a terrorist's nuke. I'm going to go somewhere far away, far less dense, and hopefully drag my dad with me. I wonder what Arizona is like...

(I could have gotten blown up twice that day with the other bomber from a few years ago. I wasn't at Seaside, but I was in NYC the day the bomb went off there, and I was probably within a few hundred feet of the bomb that was near the Elizabeth train station that didn't go off.)
 
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Yeah, NJ. Especially NYC area NJ. This ish is for the birds. I'm getting out of here once this virus blows over. It's just one big, dense bullseye that you've got to pay way too much to pray you don't get screwed one way or the other. I've had in my lifetime Timothy McVeigh, 9/11, the bomber from a few years ago, and now this coronavirus. I'm not sticking around for a terrorist's nuke. I'm going to go somewhere far away, far less dense, and hopefully drag my dad with me. I wonder what Arizona is like...

(I could have gotten blown up twice that day with the other bomber from a few years ago. I wasn't at Seaside, but I was in NYC the day the bomb went off there, and I was probably within a few hundred feet of the bomb that was near the Elizabeth train station that didn't go off.)

You forgot all of this recent fun we've had here...

August 27–28, 2011 – Tropical Storm Irene made landfall in Brigantine as a strong tropical storm. The storm caused beach erosion, flooding, and sustained winds of 59 mph (94 km/h) in Cape May, where hurricane-force gusts were also recorded.[92] Numerous reports of major flooding, downed trees, and power outages were reported. The storm caused just the third ever shutdown of Atlantic City casinos and also prompted residents of coastal communities to evacuate in advance of the storm. The storm kills a total of ten people in the state.

September 7–9, 2011 – The remnants of Tropical Storm Lee causes heavy rain across all of the state. In Phillipsburg, 9.55 Inches of rain fell. Moderate to severe flooding occurred in Western portions of the state.

October 29–30, 2012 – Hurricane Sandy reaches within 50 miles of the coastline before moving ashore in Brigantine as an extratropical cyclone. The storm brings hurricane-force winds, record low pressure, and a momentous storm surge along areas of the coast. The storm becomes the worst hurricane to affect the state on record, killing 37 and causing nearly $30 billion in damages. Widespread devastation is noted, particularly on Long Beach Island and the Barnegat Peninsula, where the Seaside Heights boardwalk collapses into the ocean. Further north, storm surge flooding causes massive destruction along the Raritan Bay and traps thousands in Hoboken. All of New Jersey Transit's commuter rail operations are affected, with some lines out of service for over a month, and inundation of rolling stock stored in NJ Transit's Meadowlands yard. Sandy also causes the worst power outage in state history, blacking out over 2 million households.

They actually have a wiki page on "Hurricanes in New Jersey"

List of New Jersey hurricanes - Wikipedia
 
I guess I expected too much competence out of the NJ DMV.

Im not so sure about these fabulous sales people are expecting. There are a lot of people out of work, what cars they have now they are selling, Many of the auto plants are shut down therefore supply is dwindling. Someone posted on this in this thread awhile back.

I'd rather have the truck in the driveway ready to go, when the numbskulls at the DMV come back from vacation, than no truck after all I went through to get it.
Yeah, I may be wrong about the car prices going down. Heck, maybe people will be so eager to buy that they'll go up. I'm no economics expert.
 
I have not seen my wife in two weeks (except through a glass door) because she works in a lab that does thousands of Covid-19 samples a day. The risk of cross-contamination is too great. It sucks, but life is more important than stuff. People complaining about not be able to golf or whatnot have different priorities I guess.
I thank you and your wife and appreciate the sacrifices you're making. Hopefully this thing gets over with much more quickly than predicted. God bless!
 
You forgot all of this recent fun we've had here...

August 27–28, 2011 – Tropical Storm Irene made landfall in Brigantine as a strong tropical storm. The storm caused beach erosion, flooding, and sustained winds of 59 mph (94 km/h) in Cape May, where hurricane-force gusts were also recorded.[92] Numerous reports of major flooding, downed trees, and power outages were reported. The storm caused just the third ever shutdown of Atlantic City casinos and also prompted residents of coastal communities to evacuate in advance of the storm. The storm kills a total of ten people in the state.

September 7–9, 2011 – The remnants of Tropical Storm Lee causes heavy rain across all of the state. In Phillipsburg, 9.55 Inches of rain fell. Moderate to severe flooding occurred in Western portions of the state.

October 29–30, 2012 – Hurricane Sandy reaches within 50 miles of the coastline before moving ashore in Brigantine as an extratropical cyclone. The storm brings hurricane-force winds, record low pressure, and a momentous storm surge along areas of the coast. The storm becomes the worst hurricane to affect the state on record, killing 37 and causing nearly $30 billion in damages. Widespread devastation is noted, particularly on Long Beach Island and the Barnegat Peninsula, where the Seaside Heights boardwalk collapses into the ocean. Further north, storm surge flooding causes massive destruction along the Raritan Bay and traps thousands in Hoboken. All of New Jersey Transit's commuter rail operations are affected, with some lines out of service for over a month, and inundation of rolling stock stored in NJ Transit's Meadowlands yard. Sandy also causes the worst power outage in state history, blacking out over 2 million households.

They actually have a wiki page on "Hurricanes in New Jersey"

List of New Jersey hurricanes - Wikipedia

Yeah, but the hurricanes aren't so much a product of the NYC area's density and importance. They have hurricanes in Florida, too. Still, those two were a pain for a lot of people. Irene mostly missed me, but Sandy wrecked a lot and knocked out power for nearly a week. For an ex-girlfriend, it was pretty much the inverse.

And I had to edit my previous post. I always get McVeigh mixed up with the first World Trade Center bombing. I was young enough that I don't really remember either of them.
 
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