Hope for the best prepare for the worst.How are you prepping for the covid-19 virus.

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ElectroBoy said:
Yes, but once again, consider the news source.
She’s the darling of the anti-vaccination crowd. Check out her entry in Wikipedia. Judy Mikovits. And the article below, among others out there. Her highly questionable research conclusions have been debunked. Now she’s promoting a movie about her side of the story. There’s a lot written about this. Read up and decide for yourself, if you have the energy.
Whittemore Peterson Institute - Wikipedia

Also, here’s the big picture from Snopes.com.
Was a Scientist Jailed After Discovering a Deadly Virus Delivered Through Vaccines?
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Your warning to consider the source applies to Wikipedia and to Snopes.

And, there was a time when people admired actual whistleblowers (e.g., Jeff Wigand). I wonder what changed. . .
 
ElectroBoy said:
I’m afraid there will *never* be enough testing capability for the ideal scenario where every worker is tested once a day to be sure they don’t bring it to work. Or catch the virus at work and bring it home to the family. We’re going to have to measure progress with hospital admissions and death statistics, despite the reporting delays and perceived inaccuracies.

As NYC is ramping down, other parts of the country are ramping up in places where there are people crowded together: nursing homes, group homes, prisons, assembly line manufacturing, meat processing plants. A lot of these are in rural parts of the country where there are small hospital facilities. Look out if those get overrun.
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Yeah, I was just making an observation that the "Rest of the United States" part of that chart depicting new cases seems to trend right along with the CDC's depiction of tests. Which it would, I expect.
 
I'm still amazed how the spread of the virus either depends on the population density, the population density, or the actual intelligence of the virus.

If you believe how contagious and deadly it is, we should be seeing sky high morbidity rates among the homeless in NY, SF, and LA, and retail store employees - Target, Walmart, Home Depot, Lowes, grocery chains, etc. It's incredible how the virus avoids killing people in these areas but will kill you for sure if you work in a small business.
 
Rapid_Amble said:
I'm still amazed how the spread of the virus either depends on the population density, the population density, or the actual intelligence of the virus.

If you believe how contagious and deadly it is, we should be seeing sky high morbidity rates among the homeless in NY, SF, and LA, and retail store employees - Target, Walmart, Home Depot, Lowes, grocery chains, etc. It's incredible how the virus avoids killing people in these areas but will kill you for sure if you work in a small business.
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Covid-19 *is* spreading among the homeless. Whenever any people are packed close together.
As Covid-19 surges among San Francisco’s homeless, doctors face difficult choices.

As Covid-19 surges among homeless, doctors face difficult choices - STAT

In all of the kind of stores you mention I’ve seen them masked up and distancing and sanitizing carts, keypads, using spit shields at the cashier, etc for weeks. Maybe that system works. But yeah I think you’re right, dense packing of people is the problem.
 
RichinRidgewood said:
Propaganda and scare tactics.

You need to be very sick and old or very very unlucky to die from this bug.
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Not true.
An acquaintance of mine died from it. She was a Registered Nurse (so she was well aware of handwashing, etc) and definitely NOT as you said " very sick and old" . As for what you call "very very unlucky " I don't think that's something that can be quantified.
 
bugkillr said:
Not true.
An acquaintance of mine died from it. She was a Registered Nurse (so she was well aware of handwashing, etc) and definitely NOT as you said " very sick and old" . As for what you call "very very unlucky " I don't think that's something that can be quantified.
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Sorry to hear about your acquaintance.

Healthcare workers treating covid 19 patients have front row seats with sick people carrying high viral loads. Same goes for people stuck in crowded subway trains or confined to nursing homes.

In contrast, people outside with some carrying the virus would see much lower viral loads, and they should have better chances of fighting off the virus.
 
That makes sense.
I just take exception to statements like the one I quoted. Blanket, sweeping and uninformed statements tend to be wrong...that one was a prime example.
 
Rapid_Amble said:
Your warning to consider the source applies to Wikipedia and to Snopes.

And, there was a time when people admired actual whistleblowers (e.g., Jeff Wigand). I wonder what changed. . .
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Follow the Money. Does USA Today have an agenda?

Fact check: Medicare pays hospitals more money for COVID-19 patients

According to their fact-checking, a COVID-19 diagnosis pays more than an influenza diagnosis, and the use of ventilators ups that pay by ~300%. If true, that's just one part of how our medical system is "broken" by those that have an agenda.
 
xyzzy said:
Follow the Money. Does USA Today have an agenda?

Fact check: Medicare pays hospitals more money for COVID-19 patients

According to their fact-checking, a COVID-19 diagnosis pays more than an influenza diagnosis, and the use of ventilators ups that pay by ~300%. If true, that's just one part of how our medical system is "broken" by those that have an agenda.
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and a heart attack pays more than an ingrown toenail...

A ventilator means ICU and ICU stays are expensive.

Of course a COVID diagnosis will cost more. Even if it is an asymptomatic case, the diagnosis itself requires isolation, more PPE, extra cleaning etc. - all that costs money.
 
xyzzy said:
Follow the Money. Does USA Today have an agenda?

Fact check: Medicare pays hospitals more money for COVID-19 patients

According to their fact-checking, a COVID-19 diagnosis pays more than an influenza diagnosis, and the use of ventilators ups that pay by ~300%. If true, that's just one part of how our medical system is "broken" by those that have an agenda.
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This is a great coin operated incentive for healthcare providers to presume everyone has covid 19 per CDC guidelines.
 
cb1111 said:
and a heart attack pays more than an ingrown toenail...

A ventilator means ICU and ICU stays are expensive.

Of course a COVID diagnosis will cost more. Even if it is an asymptomatic case, the diagnosis itself requires isolation, more PPE, extra cleaning etc. - all that costs money.
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If I can infer from that, "gaming" the system to get more money is the way our medical system is incentivized - up the DSM code to deliver the highest return.
 
Deuxdiesel said:
Further evidence why socialized medicine is a good thing.
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Completely the opposite unless you want worse care and higher costs through socialism or communism. more government = more inefficiencies, more gaming and more theft of taxpayer wealth.

Government policy is causing inefficient and sloppy outcomes as it is. Last thing we need is more government.
 
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