How is it daily driving with Long Travel?
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westtex
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Love the quote, “anything worth doing is worth overdoing.”
westtex
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The reason why I ask this is because I have KDSS. And what threads that I have read on here pretty says it’s very expensive to fix. From what I took and understood cost is similar to a long travel kit.
Now, my kdss is not broken. When I was installing my king bump stops in the rear I noticed that the kdss shock seemed to be leaking.
Now, my kdss is not broken. When I was installing my king bump stops in the rear I noticed that the kdss shock seemed to be leaking.
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Ive been doing it for about 2 weeks. And since I previously had kdss I am running no sway bars currently.
Overall the ride is not bad. In long sweeping corners it body rolls pretty bad. I will be installing antirock swaybar in the rear pretty soon. I would say as long as you understand it is not going fo handle the same you should be fine. I think have a rear swaybar is really going to change the body roll.
Overall the ride is not bad. In long sweeping corners it body rolls pretty bad. I will be installing antirock swaybar in the rear pretty soon. I would say as long as you understand it is not going fo handle the same you should be fine. I think have a rear swaybar is really going to change the body roll.
Easyrider18
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Its no biggie (I have a 3.5" TC kit) and its my 4th vehicle with LT. Its only when you add a roll cage that it becomes not worth it to DD IMO.
westtex
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These anti rock sway bars, are they a universal fit? Have to do some fabrication?
Who makes them?
rochmpr
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You have to ditch the KDSS to run long travel.
mikey's2010SR5
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I don't daily drive my truck, but as long as you don't drive it like a sports car you will be fine. The ride is nice and comfy but still rides like a truck.
I don't have any sway bars and have some weight up top (full rack, RTT, awning) and definitely feel the roll. I am use to it and just take it slow.
Running a +2" kit up front and extended travel in the rear.
I don't have any sway bars and have some weight up top (full rack, RTT, awning) and definitely feel the roll. I am use to it and just take it slow.
Running a +2" kit up front and extended travel in the rear.
westtex
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Yes, I figured if my kdss breaks I would long travel instead of fixing it. Cost seem to be the same.
westtex
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What is your setup in the rear?
mikey's2010SR5
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Running ICON Overland springs with Fox DSCs from the Tundra, which give me about two more inches of down travel versus the OEM shock. I then had the rear bump stop spaced one inch down.
LawnDart
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Since I am that dude, I'll jump in here.
You can do long travel, and a lot of people seem to be jumping on that fad in the 5th gen market, but not a lot of people are either doing it right or doing it all out.
[MENTION=76550]cbielat[/MENTION] and I have probably been running these setups all out for longer than most, in totally different applications. He's been using his to crawl, I use mine to go fast. There's a big reason I haven't gone to 37's and that's because while cbielat gets that 1 more inch of ground clearance, it's at the expense of travel, which is painfully essential to me for what I want to do.
I think if you asked both of us if there's a compromise when doing systems as extreme as ours, we'd both honestly say yes. I have custom rear shocks, I have the first anti-rock setup in a 4Runner, and I also have a tremendous amount of labor I have to do every few weeks to keep my long travel working and sounding as factory as possible given the components involved.
This is why I say if your vehicle is primarily a daily driver (I work from home mostly, and my vehicle mostly gets used as an adventure vehicle despite it being my one and only vehicle) then you have to consider how it works from a maintenance standpoint, and how it drives. The minute you go long travel expect to do ALL the servicing on the suspension yourself, no service bay is going to help you when a shock goes bad. Are you prepared to do that? Just getting one of my front coilovers requires 30 minutes and about 5 ratchet straps just to compress the bypasses to allow me to access the coilovers.
As for handling, I've tamed it as best as possible, but it's cost a lot of money. It's also cost a lot of time from trial and error. I'll be honest, I've seen a lot of people add long travel to their 4Runners, and the vast majority of them are half assed. And to do it right requires a LOT of labor and time, and money, to build a system that doesn't beat itself to death, but you can drive long distances. I also tow, which means giving up a sway bar in the rear would have been super sketchy. Adding factory sway bars would limit the travel.
I have my setup tamed on road as best as possible, but 16.5 hours back from FJ Summit was exhausting when you're doing 85-90mph to get home, and the vehicle still wants to get away from you if you're not careful.
There's a lot I felt I had under control on my build before Baja, a lot I realized I didn't, then I rebuilt it and revised, and a lot of questions I have that I'm sure will be answered next June if I get the chance to do Trail of Missions 2019.
rochmpr
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I do not see how that will work unless they make new pistons. The pistons kills the long travel as the KDSS piston only has so many inches of travel, some of that is burned in lifting a vehicle. So realistically, there is no way to have stock KDSS and LT.
rochmpr
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I could not agree more with [MENTION=124732]LawnDart[/MENTION]. I find it funny how many people are going to LT for the "cool" factor but do not use their rigs for what they are capable of. After going back and forth with [MENTION=76550]cbielat[/MENTION], I have said to hell with the front LT set-up. I have too much going on to deal with the required weekly maintenance and yearly parts replacement. Mine does just fine as is.
mikey's2010SR5
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I guess I am one that half assed and jumped on the band wagon...
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