How low should the body set on the frame?

[jross20]

I looked around a bit but I couldn't find anyone talking about this. I was under the truck today finishing up my frame painting and while I was rushing for a moment I was just looking at the sides. Started imagining what the Rock sliders will look like...

Well then I started to realize that there's not really any room for the sliders. I'm going to drag them up here in a minute and look but I'm like 90% sure that even if you move the slider to the very bottom of the frame it would still hit the body panel.

So it got me to thinking... Should the body set this low? Maybe the mounts are worn out and it's sagged? I just feel like there should be at least some amount of gap between the slider and the body because I thought the whole point was to prevent damage... Lol

Update:. All right it was a complete pain in the ass to do it by myself but I was able to Jack one of the sliders up into place manually and confirmed that there's no way to mount them without them going through the body essentially... soooo... Shit...

 

[brillo_76]

Why not put 1 inch body lift ?

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[jross20]

Why not put 1 inch body lift ?

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Well, I didn't they they were required for anything and also thought they were kind of like a "bubba" mod... Haha

But the main thing I'm curious about is...is this normal? Or could this explain why she rides rough? Should the body be setting so low?

 

[brillo_76]

Well, I didn't they they were required for anything and also thought they were kind of like a "bubba" mod... Haha

But the main thing I'm curious about is...is this normal? Or could this explain why she rides rough? Should the body be setting so low?

All the ones I have the body is about 1/2 inch or so off the frame. They are fairly close by factory.

I can see the bubba mod but if you have a valid reason, and you want it why not.

 

[jross20]

All the ones I have the body is about 1/2 inch or so off the frame. They are fairly close by factory.

I can see the bubba mod but if you have a valid reason, and you want it why not.

Hmmm... Mine seems like a half inch as well. What on earth.

Do people generally let the sliders hang down below the frame?

 

[JohnOfTheJungle]

Hmmm... Mine seems like a half inch as well. What on earth.



Do people generally let the sliders hang down below the frame?

No - my slider arms are at the lower part of the frame but come straight out and the ends are cut 15* so the slider rails angle up to tuck in closer to the body.

I don’t have a body lift and I have probably 1/4” of space between the slider arm and the pinch weld at a few spots, a bit more space in some other spots.

Not a great picture but maybe you can kind of tell

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[jross20]

No - my slider arms are at the lower part of the frame but come straight out and the ends are cut 15* so the slider rails angle up to tuck in closer to the body.

I don’t have a body lift and I have probably 1/4” of space between the slider arm and the pinch weld at a few spots, a bit more space in some other spots.

Not a great picture but maybe you can kind of tell

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I guess the sliders I have are just extra beefy... I did a little mock up again today as best I could and there's definitely no way to mount them perfectly flat without them coming off the bottom edge of the frame.

I already have planned to get some steel plates to mount the sliders to first, basically to spread the load out across a larger area of the frame, I guess this plate could set like 1/4" of an inch below the edge of the frame.

Though theni wonder if I should make the plates L-shaped for protection?

Man this is more complicated than I expected lol

 

[brillo_76]

I guess the sliders I have are just extra beefy... I did a little mock up again today as best I could and there's definitely no way to mount them perfectly flat without them coming off the bottom edge of the frame.



I already have planned to get some steel plates to mount the sliders to first, basically to spread the load out across a larger area of the frame, I guess this plate could set like 1/4" of an inch below the edge of the frame.



Though theni wonder if I should make the plates L-shaped for protection?



Man this is more complicated than I expected lol

One reason why I stay very close to stock.

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[sportscarfan]

Why not put 1 inch body lift ?

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This is exactly what I did before installing my sliders in order to mount them up as high as I could.

 

[brillo_76]

This is exactly what I did before installing my sliders in order to mount them up as high as I could.

I cant say I blame you if that is what it takes to make the Sliders fit properly..

 

[phattyduck]

Here's a reference shot of my Shrockworks sliders. The top of the square tube is very close to the pinch weld at the back where it droops a bit. The rest is 3/8" or more (now with poly body mounts, there should be only minor contact if any when flexing).

-Charlie

 

[jkeith.w]

I looked around a bit but I couldn't find anyone talking about this. I was under the truck today finishing up my frame painting and while I was rushing for a moment I was just looking at the sides. Started imagining what the Rock sliders will look like...

Well then I started to realize that there's not really any room for the sliders. I'm going to drag them up here in a minute and look but I'm like 90% sure that even if you move the slider to the very bottom of the frame it would still hit the body panel.

So it got me to thinking... Should the body set this low? Maybe the mounts are worn out and it's sagged? I just feel like there should be at least some amount of gap between the slider and the body because I thought the whole point was to prevent damage... Lol

Update:. All right it was a complete pain in the ass to do it by myself but I was able to Jack one of the sliders up into place manually and confirmed that there's no way to mount them without them going through the body essentially... soooo... Shit...

I guarantee your body mounts are compressed/sagged. (so are everyone's, I'll bet)

 

[jross20]

I guarantee your body mounts are compressed/sagged. (so are everyone's, I'll bet)

Honestly they look like utter shit to me... haha. I wonder if the ride quality would improve if I replaced them?
:beer:

 

[jkeith.w]

I couldn't tell a difference when I went from clapped out original bushings to poly on my tacoma, so I doubt it.
I was, however, able to correct the body line alignment issues I had between the cab & bed, so they definitely were taller than the collapsed bushings I replaced.

 

[phattyduck]

I couldn't tell a difference when I went from clapped out original bushings to poly on my tacoma, so I doubt it.
I was, however, able to correct the body line alignment issues I had between the cab & bed, so they definitely were taller than the collapsed bushings I replaced.

My 4Runner got a ~1/4" body 'lift' when I did the poly mounts. The stock mounts still looked to be in good shape with no cracking or anything other than some on the rear mounts.

-Charlie

 

[jross20]

Good Lord, I looked up a video and the process of changing the mounts is a bit daunting. This would all be much easier if I had a 2nd daily driver. LS400 where are you?

Men, decisions decisions...

 

[rexassian]

It's really not that bad at all. One of the easier things to do on the 4runner. Just take your time, it may be 4 hours of actual work, if that, but take the weekend and do it nice and slow, one side at a time.

 

[phattyduck]

It's really not that bad at all. One of the easier things to do on the 4runner. Just take your time, it may be 4 hours of actual work, if that, but take the weekend and do it nice and slow, one side at a time.

True, assuming no rust. The rear mount bolts to the body were my only challenge (California vehicle).

Couple of jacks on the pinch welds...

-Charlie

 

[jross20]

True, assuming no rust. The rear mount bolts to the body were my only challenge (California vehicle).

Couple of jacks on the pinch welds...

-Charlie

Hm.... Still makes me nervous... I'll have to see what an oem set runs. Not sure if I want to go poly.

Side note...what brand is that creeper?

 

[phattyduck]

Hm.... Still makes me nervous... I'll have to see what an oem set runs. Not sure if I want to go poly.

Side note...what brand is that creeper?

OEM mounts are crazy expensive...

Not sure on the creeper. Upside: It folds up into a seat. Downside - it sits up pretty high, so is a pain under cars.

-Charlie