Hypermiling?

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Below are some common hypermiling suggestions -- and an expert's view on whether the technique is smart and safe. We asked auto expert Pat Goss -- owner of Goss' Garage in Seabrook, commentator for PBS's "Motorweek," and host of a regular chat on washingtonpost.com -- to weigh in on what works.

DRIVE THE SPEED LIMIT



Hypermiling Techniques



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Hypermiling is all about making adjustments to maximize your gas mileage, and many techniques work whether you're driving a hybrid or a Hummer.

"Anybody can be a hypermiler. It doesn't matter if you're in a Dodge Durango getting 10 mpg today. You can get 15 mpg tomorrow," says Wayne Gerdes. "It's going to save fuel. And this country needs that."




Expert's take : Goss says that as you go above 38 mph in most cars, you lose mileage. For every 5 mph above 55, he says you can lose as much as 10 percent of your fuel economy. So slowing down can save you gas.

DRIVING WITHOUT BRAKES (or in hypermiling lingo, "d.w.b.") is all about coasting. Congestion is constant in Washington, and accelerating from zero to 20, then back to zero, is inefficient. Instead, if the car in front of you is speeding up, maintain a steady speed and let it get ahead of you, when traffic starts to slow back down you'll catch up.

Expert's take: Do it when possible -- but be careful. "You're probably going to have some highly ticked off people if you do it on the Beltway," Goss warns.

TURN OFF YOUR CAR AND COAST , aka the "forced-auto stop." In hybrids, the internal combustion engine shuts off at stops to conserve fuel; the electric batteries keep the car running. To save even more fuel when decelerating, some hypermilers -- including Gerdes -- shift to neutral and turn off the engine while coasting to a stop.

Expert's take: "Highly dangerous. You don't have your car under control," says Goss. (In other words, not all hypermiling techniques are good ones.)

OPTIMIZE YOUR ROUTE : Avoid big hills or stop-and-go traffic. Test different routes to see which is the smoothest ride. Sometimes, a longer route with better driving conditions uses less gas.

Expert's take: "Basic driving techniques. I teach this the first day," Goss says.

WATCH YOUR TIRE PRESSURE . It takes a lot of extra energy to move even slightly flat tires. Some hypermilers recommend over-inflating tires.

Expert's take: Goss says this works but is very risky. "When you over-inflate a tire, you can compromise its traction and . . . make the tire wear out more rapidly," he says, adding that it could be "very negligent to recommend that someone do that."

STAY ON TOP OF OIL CHANGES , and use thinner oil.

Expert's take: "It can have a significant effect on fuel economy, especially as the oil ages," Goss says. "The viscosity of engine oil is always increasing. . . . The thicker the oil is the harder it is to push through the engine."

-- J.Z.

Hypermiling
 
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Many of the "techniques" they use are dangerous and inconsiderate to other drivers. Fuel economy should never outweigh safe driving practices, no matter what impact on your wallet or the environment safe driving has.
 
That coasting part is especially dangerous. Allowing more than 2 car lengths gets you the bird and horn, and more than 3 at any speed here will get you shot
 
iRCaDiKz said:
Increase Your Gas Mileage
Below are some common hypermiling suggestions -- and an expert's view on whether the technique is smart and safe. We asked auto expert Pat Goss -- owner of Goss' Garage in Seabrook, commentator for PBS's "Motorweek," and host of a regular chat on washingtonpost.com -- to weigh in on what works.

DRIVE THE SPEED LIMIT



Hypermiling Techniques



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Hypermiling is all about making adjustments to maximize your gas mileage, and many techniques work whether you're driving a hybrid or a Hummer.

"Anybody can be a hypermiler. It doesn't matter if you're in a Dodge Durango getting 10 mpg today. You can get 15 mpg tomorrow," says Wayne Gerdes. "It's going to save fuel. And this country needs that."




Expert's take : Goss says that as you go above 38 mph in most cars, you lose mileage. For every 5 mph above 55, he says you can lose as much as 10 percent of your fuel economy. So slowing down can save you gas.

DRIVING WITHOUT BRAKES (or in hypermiling lingo, "d.w.b.") is all about coasting. Congestion is constant in Washington, and accelerating from zero to 20, then back to zero, is inefficient. Instead, if the car in front of you is speeding up, maintain a steady speed and let it get ahead of you, when traffic starts to slow back down you'll catch up.

Expert's take: Do it when possible -- but be careful. "You're probably going to have some highly ticked off people if you do it on the Beltway," Goss warns.

TURN OFF YOUR CAR AND COAST , aka the "forced-auto stop." In hybrids, the internal combustion engine shuts off at stops to conserve fuel; the electric batteries keep the car running. To save even more fuel when decelerating, some hypermilers -- including Gerdes -- shift to neutral and turn off the engine while coasting to a stop.

Expert's take: "Highly dangerous. You don't have your car under control," says Goss. (In other words, not all hypermiling techniques are good ones.)

OPTIMIZE YOUR ROUTE : Avoid big hills or stop-and-go traffic. Test different routes to see which is the smoothest ride. Sometimes, a longer route with better driving conditions uses less gas.

Expert's take: "Basic driving techniques. I teach this the first day," Goss says.

WATCH YOUR TIRE PRESSURE . It takes a lot of extra energy to move even slightly flat tires. Some hypermilers recommend over-inflating tires.

Expert's take: Goss says this works but is very risky. "When you over-inflate a tire, you can compromise its traction and . . . make the tire wear out more rapidly," he says, adding that it could be "very negligent to recommend that someone do that."

STAY ON TOP OF OIL CHANGES , and use thinner oil.

Expert's take: "It can have a significant effect on fuel economy, especially as the oil ages," Goss says. "The viscosity of engine oil is always increasing. . . . The thicker the oil is the harder it is to push through the engine."

-- J.Z.

Hypermiling

DRIVE THE SPEED LIMIT? Definitely makes sense. :bigok:

DRIVING WITHOUT BRAKES? Good idea, but try doing that in the mid-town Manhattan traffic or on New Jersey Turnpike!!! :chair:

TURN OFF YOUR CAR AND COAST? What will happen to your power brakes (not an issue for T4R 4 gen) AND your power steering??? :behead:

OPTIMIZE YOUR ROUTE? If you can!!! There are only 2 north-to-south highways in NJ that cover the length of the state - turnpike and parkway. Try optimizing THAT!!! :bash:

WATCH YOUR TIRE PRESSURE? Was discussed on this forum MANY MANY times. Most of us keep it a little overinflated... ;):

STAY ON TOP OF OIL CHANGES? Again, most of us do. :awais:


Some of these recommendations are common sense, some are plain stupid. :biggrin2:
 
TheBlueWave said:
Many of the "techniques" they use are dangerous and inconsiderate to other drivers. Fuel economy should never outweigh safe driving practices, no matter what impact on your wallet or the environment safe driving has.

:iagree:

More info from MSN and a dedicated site Hypermiling.com.

Some techniques mentioned are good tips from MSN.

But coasting with the engine off, that's just out right dumb. Taping off the grille to reduce drag or drafting being a big rig. The danger of some techniques or citation for reckless driving offsets any savings, IMO.

What I like to see are those who do the hypermiling report things like damage to their car (from taping the grille), accidents (from engine off coasting) or citations (for reckless driving) and if they still continue the technique.
 
Here's the article from Toyota Open Road Blog that talks about a Prius getting 71 MPG:

May 21, 2008
How to Stretch A Gallon of Gas
You all know that our Prius hybrid car gets pretty decent fuel economy, right? In fact, the EPA
 
With the interest hypermiling is now getting I'm amazed at how basic and no-brainer all the suggestions are. None of them are really going to push you much over the EPA figures for mileage in my experience, but hopefully people will start to appreciate that driving like racers ain't doing anyone any good.

I already drive relatively slow on freeways, coast up to traffic/stops/lights in the city whenever possible, accelerate modestly, rarely use AC, inflate tires to 3-4psi over normal, and coast in neutral whenever going downhill for any distance. Gets me about 1-2mpg more if I'm lucky.

One thing that does not get much attention is the choice of tires. I wish the EPA would devise a standardized rolling-resistance test and force tire manufacturers to rate their tires based on it. There is virtually no information on rolling resistance out there but it can have a huge impact on the overall mileage of vehicles.
 
TheBlueWave said:
Many of the "techniques" they use are dangerous and inconsiderate to other drivers. Fuel economy should never outweigh safe driving practices, no matter what impact on your wallet or the environment safe driving has.

I totally agree , I can see changing driving habits and maint., tires pressure , ect... I think we are all trying to save gas as much as possible , but if one of these guys are trying to play his Hypermiling game in general traffic can be dangerous to all.

I'd sure hate to get rear ended buy someone turning off their engine to coast and not stop in time because his power brakes didn't work. (heck for hitting my 4r alone his hospitals bills from me would not come close to his gas saving money) :D :D
 
I did an indicated 25.0 mpg per the onboard computer over a 40 mile drive using some of the hypermiling techniques. I refuse to turn the engine off while moving, that is just plain dumb!

Here is an interesting Top Gear vid where they needed to get over 40mpg from a diesel Audi A8 to complete the challenge.

http://www.autoinsidernews.com/2006/12/31/video-top-gears-audi-a8-diesel-challenge/

edit: sorry video is gone.. i'll try to find it elsewhere
 
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I just drive the dang thing. If I'm that worried about gas mileage on a certain trip, I just take my motorcycle. :driving:
 
pipspeak said:
One thing that does not get much attention is the choice of tires. I wish the EPA would devise a standardized rolling-resistance test and force tire manufacturers to rate their tires based on it.


Please, NO!:awais: This government doesn't need to seize any more power or be in charge of anything else.

Now, I agree with your point and it'd be awesome if there was a standard. If the manufacturers would through some assoc of tire manufacturers come up with a standard, rate tires and publish the results that'd be good...

They could introduce as part of some new green campaign.

:cheers:
 

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