I am no welder but this doesn't look right...LOL

[superhomunculus]

I want to get some frame kits from autorust. A local body shop will weld them up for me. But first I need to get this crap off. I am thinking use an angle grinder to carefully grind off those "beads". Thoughts/word of wisdom.

 

[delstele]

Pretty sad looking attempt at a repair...lol Yup a box of cutoff wheels and a 4" angle grinder for the majority of removal couple flap wheels to smooth out the areas is how I would handle it..

 

[Brian.]

Yup, angle grinder and flap disc for weld removal like that. How much more would the shop charge to do it though? Might be worth it to just let them take care of the whole process, that way they can grind off as much, or as little, as They see fit.

 

[Pyral]

It might be decretive, its certainly not structural. If its my own vehicle I'm taking the extra time and not doing spot welds.

 

[superhomunculus]

Yup, angle grinder and flap disc for weld removal like that. How much more would the shop charge to do it though? Might be worth it to just let them take care of the whole process, that way they can grind off as much, or as little, as They see fit.

For liability reasons, the shop will only weld up the metal. I have to have everything ready including putting the metal where I want it. Though, I might look around and see if I can find a shop that'll do the work for me.

 

[Dianna]

I fully expected all of the responses to say to scrap this frame.

 

[Too Stroked]

Yes, that weld was laid down by Stevie Wonder using My First Welder on a cold, rainy night. On a related note, you're worried about the frame and yes, it's hurting. The first pics shows some pretty serious rot on the inner rockers though. Is it worth fixing the frame if the body it's holding up is that bad?

 

[shawn42]

Definitely not factory.

 

[crawlingjunk]

Yeah they looks like crap. But why fix the frame if you have this going on

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[superhomunculus]

Yeah they looks like crap. But why fix the frame if you have this going on

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That's on my to do list also. I would like to cut them out and replace them. I also found a couple of websites that have slip on rocker panels. Don't know if they're any good or not. I have to look into it some more. I really need to stop biting off more than I can chew with these project cars. LOL

 

[97t4r81]

I’ll respectfully reply. That frame damage and repair would have me looking at a frame without rust. The wave in the plate is from the whole chassis twisting, at a certain point safety and drivability can suffer.
Take measurements to ensure the frame is squared before and after. No easy way to remove that, grinders and cutting disc. Watch out for the fuel tank area.
Are you doing this work at their shop(cutting old out?). If not I wouldn’t drive this after cutting. I’m sure this doesn’t apply to you, but it just hit me. Hope your rig gets better

 

[diverscale]

rockers aren't structural. Rockers like this are being repaired everyday around the world. Some good welders can also put some square/rectangle tubing in there in place of the rocker for a rugged look and no more problems.

Frame seems to be salvageable, certainly not rotted through enough that a welding shop can't salvage it. grind that shit down and don't forget to have a lot of time on hand, put ear and eye protection. A whoooole lot bigger job to replace the frame.

There is a guy in here ''brillo'' or something that did it himself and it came down to something that looks like a very solid job

 

[bmason8159]

I fully expected all of the responses to say to scrap this frame.

That poor truck. Who did that to you?

 

[jbtvt]

Looks like parts truck material to me... What's the trailing arm even attached to? And frame is probably racked as someone said. I also wouldn't want to drive that after cutting anything out, if you're really set on a repair. Don't know what the body shop would be charging but you might be able to find a mobile welder on Craigslist or fb marketplace who'd do it for less, see ads around here for $50 an hr. That rocker is rotted past the seam so don't know that you'll find a slip on that will cover it. Lot of work there and you might be stuck with a shaky vehicle that won't align even after you're done

 

[sportscarfan]

It looks like those welds were done with the worst Harbor Freight flux core (no shielding gas) welder with zero metal prep.

You would be better served if you invested ~$600 in a decent MIG welder AND buy a bottle of gas. It is VERY easy to MIG weld if you spend 30 minutes learning. All the work is going to be in the time spent grinding that garbage off.

 

[19963.4lsr5]

It looks like those welds were done with the worst Harbor Freight flux core (no shielding gas) welder with zero metal prep.

You would be better served if you invested ~$600 in a decent MIG welder AND buy a bottle of gas. It is VERY easy to MIG weld if you spend 30 minutes learning. All the work is going to be in the time spent grinding that garbage off.

He should have a plasma cutter also….


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[superhomunculus]

It looks like those welds were done with the worst Harbor Freight flux core (no shielding gas) welder with zero metal prep.

You would be better served if you invested ~$600 in a decent MIG welder AND buy a bottle of gas. It is VERY easy to MIG weld if you spend 30 minutes learning. All the work is going to be in the time spent grinding that garbage off.

The guy that owns the body shop suggested the same thing. Said it's easier than a stick welder.

 

[superhomunculus]

If not I wouldn’t drive this after cutting. I’m sure this doesn’t apply to you, but it just hit me. Hope your rig gets better

Yep, I have a car hauler. That's how I keep getting myself into these messes. :nod:

 

[brillo_76]

Oh boy. That is some of the worst gob welding I have seen in a long time. Whoever welded that doesn't know how to weld yet. The steel wasn't clean and the welder was on the wrong settings as two possible causes. If you want to weld frames its best to practice a lot first. Some of my early welding was very rough... However, I wasn't making control arm bracket covers etc either.

Its very common for folks to plate over rough steel in the beginning but that doesn't fix it. You have to carefully cut the bad steel out and reinforce areas so they will not bend sometimes then fix the frames.

Its why I suggest cutting the frames open clean them out and then plate in the inside. Then replace and rebuild the places you cut open. If you don't do it this way your frame is still rotting from the inside out. Especially if you don't seal the holes up and really coat the inside of the frame with rust inhibitors. As in the rust belt its the dirty frames full of salt dirt that rots them out.

 

[Sane4o]

frightening photos