If the 6th Gen was Built in Mexico…

[RichinRidgewood]

If the 5th Gen was built in Mexico:

1) there would be different suppliers or factories (with less overly oppressive environmental restrictions) for the parts
2) the windshield would hopefully come from someplace that knew how to make windshields instead of the current suppler/factory and would hopefully be much less fragile
3) the paint would come from another suppler, additional colors would be offered, like the Highlander has, and it wouldn’t fall off in the wind or get scratched by sneezing on it. Hope fully it would be much better than the interior latex like crap they are using now.
4) delivery fee would be reduced
5) time between order and delivery would be reduced

 

[thennen]

6) Overall build quality would be signifcantly poorer, meaning...
7) Frequency and cost of repairs would increase over the life of the vehicle.

 

[Ripper238]

If the 6th Gen was Built in Mexico…

No One would buy it.

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[Blackwatch]

Looks like the tacos are all being built in Mexico starting in the '22 MY. I doubt there will be a reduction in the price. "David", the YouTube Automotive Press guy says the 6th gen will still be built in Tahara. I wonder how the 2.4L turbo will hold up compared to the 4.0 L...

 

[Tironeous]

If the 6th Gen was Built in Mexico…

No One would buy it.

/end

For real. All 4Runners have been built in Japan.


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[Sundy]

If the 5th Gen was built in Mexico:

1) there would be different suppliers or factories (with less overly oppressive environmental restrictions) for the parts
2) the windshield would hopefully come from someplace that knew how to make windshields instead of the current suppler/factory and would hopefully be much less fragile
3) the paint would come from another suppler, additional colors would be offered, like the Highlander has, and it wouldn’t fall off in the wind or get scratched by sneezing on it. Hope fully it would be much better than the interior latex like crap they are using now.
4) delivery fee would be reduced
5) time between order and delivery would be reduced

1. This likely wouldn't change a lot, as the US will likely have restrictions on the environmental impacts for imported products, at the rate we are going.
2. The manufacturer isn't the issue - it's the angle of the windshield. You'll only fix this with a new design/profile of the vehicle.
3. Paint - see #1. It won't happen due to environmental issues. All new cars have issues with sh**y paint these days.
4. No it wouldn't, they would just pocket more.
5. Maybe, but who's buying a Mexico made 4Runner vs. a Japan made 4R. That's part of the appeal IMO. I'll just get a Bronco then :shrug:

 

[5thToy]

I doubt many buyers other than the few enthusiasts like us on this site will be aware of or care where their 4Runner is built.

 

[BorotHex]

Only companies with poor engineering and industrial design are affected by the location of assembly in terms of QC. Toyota will most likely be fine. I like that 5th gen is made in Japan, but only because I’m a Japanese watch freak and like things from there.

 

[RichinRidgewood]

Bump
Well it looks like the 4 Runner will be made in Mexico

 

[RichinRidgewood]

If the Mexico production is true then maybe the they will have better windshields, paint etc.

Best speculation of a 2023 6th generation I have seen

 

[osideplayer]

As a proud Mexican and of owner of 3 4runners, if the 4runner is made in Mexico. I would not buy it, end of story.

 

[BorotHex]

Build location doesn’t have anything to do with quality. It’s in the engineering of parts; how they are designed and how they fit together. If you trust Toyota, don’t worry about Mexico. My 4Runner made in Japan rattles inside and out. That’s credited to poor engineering, not where it’s built.

 

[TexasFunRunner]

Build location doesn’t have anything to do with quality. It’s in the engineering of parts; how they are designed and how they fit together. If you trust Toyota, don’t worry about Mexico. My 4Runner made in Japan rattles inside and out. That’s credited to poor engineering, not where it’s built.

Please explain more, what year, did you buy new, when did it start, can you tell what or where it's coming from?

 

[Blackwatch]

Even though I know where/when the new 4Runner is going to be built the location doesn't matter. Toyota Quality standard is global, the only difference between Japan and the US is the grade metal they use. We actually see better accuracy out of our mexico plant than the US one because it's built with a slower cycle time. But that's all changing.

To reiderrate, those of you who think location of the Toyota matter are VERY wrong. We have japanese vendors for US equipment, we have japanese advisors for US equipment, all our our engineering memos, standards and how we engineer our vehicles are based in a global standard.

I had a 2018 Q5 made in Mexico and the quality issues were very evident. Maybe Audi cheaped out on the engineering as well as the labour but it had issues.

The main objection I have is the ethical one. These companies are moving production to Mexico to line their pockets while exploiting the Mexicans. The Audi I bought went up in price slightly when production moved to Mexico even though Audi did not pay the Mexicans what they were paying the Germans, nor did the Mexicans enjoy anywhere near the quality of life as the Germans. If Toyota moves the 4Runner production to Mexico it will increase the price of the vehicle while saving thousands on each one built in the form of cheaper labour and transportation costs.

 

[Blackwatch]

No sir

Looks like the 4Runner will be built in the US? warmer?

 

[Annolino122]

I had a 2018 Q5 made in Mexico and the quality issues were very evident. Maybe Audi cheaped out on the engineering as well as the labour but it had issues.

The main objection I have is the ethical one. These companies are moving production to Mexico to line their pockets while exploiting the Mexicans. The Audi I bought went up in price slightly when production moved to Mexico even though Audi did not pay the Mexicans what they were paying the Germans, nor did the Mexicans enjoy anywhere near the quality of life as the Germans. If Toyota moves the 4Runner production to Mexico it will increase the price of the vehicle while saving thousands on each one built in the form of cheaper labour and transportation costs.

We are Toyota, not anyone else. We do not change our standards on location, they are global standards.

It is also not an ethical issue as well, Toyota has two plants in Mexico. These plants provide stable jobs during financial crisis, health care, medical facilities, and all in all a higher quality of life. Toyota plants are welcomed around the world due to the jobs, quality of life, and growth they bring. So even though you have some issue with this, please feel free to go to Mexico City, visit our Toyota Plant, and explain to me how it's a bad thing. I also will be working in the Mexico plants as well as a US citizen, so please make sure you're not spreading misinformation about a company that values it's team members & customers first

 

[BorotHex]

We are Toyota, not anyone else. We do not change our standards on location, they are global standards.

It is also not an ethical issue as well, Toyota has two plants in Mexico. These plants provide stable jobs during financial crisis, health care, medical facilities, and all in all a higher quality of life. Toyota plants are welcomed around the world due to the jobs, quality of life, and growth they bring. So even though you have some issue with this, please feel free to go to Mexico City, visit our Toyota Plant, and explain to me how it's a bad thing. I also will be working in the Mexico plants as well as a US citizen, so please make sure you're not spreading misinformation about a company that values it's team members & customers first

Nobody really wants to buy a car from another country that pays below a wage that allows the workers to buy anything from the country where the purchaser is located.

I get it the kool aid has worked well, but don’t expect people to shoot themselves in the foot because they’re not drinking the same kool aid.

I don’t buy a car to support the rest of the world. Nobody does.

 

[Annolino122]

Nobody really wants to buy a car from another country that pays below a wage that allows the workers to buy anything from the country where the purchaser is located.

I get it the kool aid has worked well, but don’t expect people to shoot themselves in the foot because they’re not drinking the same kool aid.

I don’t buy a car to support the rest of the world. Nobody does.

Toyota pays competitive wages whatever state, region, country you are in. You own a 4Runner and you know its the same argument can me made in Japan right? Their cost of living is ridiculous. Our advisors come over to US and can't believe what they can afford.

But why own a 4Runner? Why not own a Tundra or Camry? If you really want to support your own country.

 

[RichinRidgewood]

No sir

Well it looks like there is some conflicting information between your and [MENTION=166416]Carmaker1[/MENTION]

 

[crkranz]

exploiting the Mexicans.

You think these Mexicans would be better off without Toyota jobs?