If you HAD to Vote for One...

So You HAVE to Vote for ONE of These Characters...

  • Hillary Clinton

    Votes: 66 26.1%
  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 187 73.9%

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Odd's are, then? Ok, that's cool you have a hunch or whatever. I get it.



For those keeping score of Newspaper endorsements:



Clinton: 24

Johnson: 6

None: 6

Not Trump: 2

Trump: 0



Of these, 15 endorsed Romney last time.



How would you explain her ongoing cough? Or the behavior to avoid the hospital? Or the sudden inability to walk up the stairs with out an escort? It's not rocket science. The body is designed to support itself. When it can't something is wrong. The body coughs for a few reasons. To try and expel substances from the lungs for a major reason. He husband had a slip and said they (fainting spells) happen frequently I mean rarely. If she faints for dehydration and she is not responsible enough to keep herself hydrated then how is she responsible enough to run the country. Unless Bill truly meant rarely and accidentally said frequently. Only he knows that answer. But how do you justify her exposing all those kids to pneumonia at the 9-11 memorial? If she was diagnosed when she claims and then went on antibiotics when she claims she was still contagious. That's just reckless.

Unless you have another word to describe that behavior.

Edit. As too the newspapers. Less than 30% of Americans trust the main stream media tv and newspaper. Why would their endorsement matter anymore? Seriously they are all left leaning. Romney was a progressive so they liked him. Trump is a wild card. They are scared of him. He calls them on the carpet, of course they won't endorse him. Big shock!!!

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Oh I am still trying to figure out if the big Hilary supporters (Canadians) actually like her or just like to provoke controversy.


Edit: so I don't get banned or warned. This is in no way meant to start a flame war. I have read and retread this thread. Every time someone not supporting Hillary lays out facts. Then there is a witty meme or a new negative statistic. Never an answer to the facts or a decent rebuttal. Hepar does make a good effort. Other than that I haven't found any decent debate. Thus the reason for the question.
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How would you explain her ongoing cough? Or the behavior to avoid the hospital? Or the sudden inability to walk up the stairs with out an escort? It's not rocket science. The body is designed to support itself. When it can't something is wrong. The body coughs for a few reasons. To try and expel substances from the lungs for a major reason. He husband had a slip and said they (fainting spells) happen frequently I mean rarely. If she faints for dehydration and she is not responsible enough to keep herself hydrated then how is she responsible enough to run the country. Unless Bill truly meant rarely and accidentally said frequently. Only he knows that answer. But how do you justify her exposing all those kids to pneumonia at the 9-11 memorial? If she was diagnosed when she claims and then went on antibiotics when she claims she was still contagious. That's just reckless.

Unless you have another word to describe that behavior.

Edit. As too the newspapers. Less than 30% of Americans trust the main stream media tv and newspaper. Why would their endorsement matter anymore? Seriously they are all left leaning. Romney was a progressive so they liked him. Trump is a wild card. They are scared of him. He calls them on the carpet, of course they won't endorse him. Big shock!!!

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Just sharing some interesting information, man. I quit taking this election seriously - we all know these candidates are total trash. Time to have a sense of humor about it at least? No angry ranting needed.

Here's an interesting poll and a perfect quote to accompany..

Poll: white people who?ve never moved away from their hometowns prefer Trump - Vox

“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.” - Mark Twain

I'm no Vox fan, but if we're sharing links from the Daily Caller it seems fair.
 
Interesting read......Go further down the page and they talk about a giant hairball and Megan slapping Hannity around...you go girl!

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Hillary arrives in Florida to take care of Hurricane Matthew. I think the blouse is just a bit much considering people are dying.
 

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Just sharing some interesting information, man. I quit taking this election seriously - we all know these candidates are total trash. Time to have a sense of humor about it at least? No angry ranting needed.

Best quote of the thread. Politics...
Here's what I now believe and this applies to either side:

If you have hundreds of millions of dollars - You personally can change things
If you are a well known celebrity - You personally can affect change
If you are in charge of a large group of people (CEO, union) - You personally can change things
If you are a career politician - You can change things

If you are not in any of the above groups - You cannot change things and must live with the consequences.

This is a pessimistic view sure, but I have concluded it to be true. I thought about how many people I truly have any influence over - enough influence to actually change their political views even with a well crafted message. My answer? Less than five people. That's it. If truth be known the only real certainty is one person and that's myself.
 
Best quote of the thread. Politics...
Here's what I now believe and this applies to either side:

If you have hundreds of millions of dollars - You personally can change things
If you are a well known celebrity - You personally can affect change
If you are in charge of a large group of people (CEO, union) - You personally can change things
If you are a career politician - You can change things

If you are not in any of the above groups - You cannot change things and must live with the consequences.

This is a pessimistic view sure, but I have concluded it to be true. I thought about how many people I truly have any influence over - enough influence to actually change their political views even with a well crafted message. My answer? Less than five people. That's it. If truth be known the only real certainty is one person and that's myself.


Sums it up pretty well if you ask me.......:ohwell:
 
Fair enough. I have gotten people to look away from their hardcore left views and they ended up fairly center. So I will not quit trying.

On another note. The comments about government run education a few pages back in America lead to this. Government run education, government run immigration, and government run justice system.

"Hey Tennessee.. Do You Know Who Is Teaching Your Children?

In this age of Islamic terrorism, and with Tennessee parents and communities being the leader in exposing the Islamic indoctrination in our schools, one would assume the state would require that substitute teachers be thoroughly vetted. However, that is not the case! Recently, in Stewart County TN, a Muslim woman was hired to teach as a substitute for an elementary school. While it would be illegal for the school to refuse to hire someone based solely on their religion it is not unreasonable to consider known affiliations of an extremist nature.

Charlotte Maye, aka Charlotte Kearse, Charlotte Warner, and Charlotte Kearsey, was that substitute, and she resides in a community called Islamville. While having several aliases is a problem on its own, her true ideology surfaced as she reportedly separated the boys and girls that were in a line. The doctrine of Islam promotes the separation of sexes before marriage so there is virtually no contact at all between males and females.

Islamville, which encompasses several roads near Dover TN, is the home of a group called Muslims of America. The umbrella organization over the MOA is called Jamaat al Fuqra, or “community of the impoverished”. There are currently 36 of these compounds, some larger and involved in guerilla warfare training. Islamville’s national headquarters is located in Hancock, NY which has been filmed to show all types of weapons and explosive training.

islamville

According to a 2006 U.S. Department of Justice report, Jamaat al-Fuqra “has more than 35 suspected communes and more than 3,000 members spread across the United States, all in support of one goal: the purification of Islam through violence.”

The founder al-Fuqra, Sheikh Gilani of Lahore Pakistan has been reported to be responsible for the 2002 beheading of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl, as he was going to interview him. One of the most violent members of Ul Fuqra was Clement Rodney Hampton-El, an American Black Muslim who fought as a mujahedeen in Afghanistan next to Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, now considered an enemy of the United States.

After returning to Brooklyn, Hampton-El worked closely with al-Fuqra, whose followers in the United States and Canada are predominantly Black Muslims. Several other al-Fuqra members have also trained in Pakistan. Although they have been quiet for several years, they are expanding as Hamas/ Muslim Brotherhood organizations such as the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) are promoting their ideology.

Seeing that Charlotte Maye, (or whoever she may be) lives in Islamville, and holds the same al-Fuqra Islamic ideology, it is clear the state of Tennessee needs a better process for screening those that teach its children whether as a permanent hire or substitute.

Parents, do you know who is teaching your children?"



http://dailyrollcall.com/?p=13736

So I ask this. If it's illegal to teach religion in any way shape or form in or schools why isn't the teachers union up in arms about this? Or is Islam not a religion.





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Fair enough. I have gotten people to look away from their hardcore left views and they ended up fairly center. So I will not quit trying.

On another note. The comments about government run education a few pages back in America lead to this. Government run education, government run immigration, and government run justice system.

"Hey Tennessee.. Do You Know Who Is Teaching Your Children?

In this age of Islamic terrorism, and with Tennessee parents and communities being the leader in exposing the Islamic indoctrination in our schools, one would assume the state would require that substitute teachers be thoroughly vetted. However, that is not the case! Recently, in Stewart County TN, a Muslim woman was hired to teach as a substitute for an elementary school. While it would be illegal for the school to refuse to hire someone based solely on their religion it is not unreasonable to consider known affiliations of an extremist nature.

Charlotte Maye, aka Charlotte Kearse, Charlotte Warner, and Charlotte Kearsey, was that substitute, and she resides in a community called Islamville. While having several aliases is a problem on its own, her true ideology surfaced as she reportedly separated the boys and girls that were in a line. The doctrine of Islam promotes the separation of sexes before marriage so there is virtually no contact at all between males and females.

Islamville, which encompasses several roads near Dover TN, is the home of a group called Muslims of America. The umbrella organization over the MOA is called Jamaat al Fuqra, or “community of the impoverished”. There are currently 36 of these compounds, some larger and involved in guerilla warfare training. Islamville’s national headquarters is located in Hancock, NY which has been filmed to show all types of weapons and explosive training.

islamville

According to a 2006 U.S. Department of Justice report, Jamaat al-Fuqra “has more than 35 suspected communes and more than 3,000 members spread across the United States, all in support of one goal: the purification of Islam through violence.”

The founder al-Fuqra, Sheikh Gilani of Lahore Pakistan has been reported to be responsible for the 2002 beheading of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl, as he was going to interview him. One of the most violent members of Ul Fuqra was Clement Rodney Hampton-El, an American Black Muslim who fought as a mujahedeen in Afghanistan next to Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, now considered an enemy of the United States.

After returning to Brooklyn, Hampton-El worked closely with al-Fuqra, whose followers in the United States and Canada are predominantly Black Muslims. Several other al-Fuqra members have also trained in Pakistan. Although they have been quiet for several years, they are expanding as Hamas/ Muslim Brotherhood organizations such as the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) are promoting their ideology.

Seeing that Charlotte Maye, (or whoever she may be) lives in Islamville, and holds the same al-Fuqra Islamic ideology, it is clear the state of Tennessee needs a better process for screening those that teach its children whether as a permanent hire or substitute.

Parents, do you know who is teaching your children?"



Hey Tennessee.. Do You Know Who Is Teaching Your Children? -

So I ask this. If it's illegal to teach religion in any way shape or form in or schools why isn't the teachers union up in arms about this? Or is Islam not a religion.





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Do you see the irony of a woman who supposedly lives in a community who is known for having strong Islamist Extremist ties (and who would then be following a very strict Sharia Law) who is then a teacher? I'm sorry, but any such community would not let that fly.
 
Do you see the irony of a woman who supposedly lives in a community who is known for having strong Islamist Extremist ties (and who would then be following a very strict Sharia Law) who is then a teacher? I'm sorry, but any such community would not let that fly.



Trying to make sure I understand you here. By community are you thinking like Ballard or Bellevue. If so that was not the impression I got. More like a isolationist community. Like some of the areas in the south of France that are known as "no go zones" for non Muslims.
Or where Randy weaver lived in northern Idaho. Sure it was safe if you were part of that group but not for outsiders. Now they mention these "communities" are all over the country, DOJ I think. For example, if we take a place like cherry valley by Duval, it is a very small community and not really part of Duvall. But that is your main closest sort for work so it would make sense that is where the residents of cherry valley look for employment.

I don't think it's a stretch at all for the school district to hire her as a substitute teacher. People are so scared of being called "racist", bigoted actually, that they will bow to political correctness.

Look at the San Bernardino shooter. The neighbors suspected something was very wrong but didn't want to get called islamaphobic.


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Trying to make sure I understand you here. By community are you thinking like Ballard or Bellevue. If so that was not the impression I got. More like a isolationist community. Like some of the areas in the south of France that are known as "no go zones" for non Muslims.
Or where Randy weaver lived in northern Idaho. Sure it was safe if you were part of that group but not for outsiders. Now they mention these "communities" are all over the country, DOJ I think. For example, if we take a place like cherry valley by Duval, it is a very small community and not really part of Duvall. But that is your main closest sort for work so it would make sense that is where the residents of cherry valley look for employment.

I don't think it's a stretch at all for the school district to hire her as a substitute teacher. People are so scared of being called "racist", bigoted actually, that they will bow to political correctness.

Look at the San Bernardino shooter. The neighbors suspected something was very wrong but didn't want to get called islamaphobic.


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We are definitely talking about the same type of community when we use the word.

And my point was not that she was supposedly hired, but that their "community" would ever allow her to go out and even apply for that type of job.
 
Hell if you do some research on the mosque(s) around crossroads in Bellevue you will find there is a lot of hate towards non believers in that area. Their is still a lot of good people there as well. But if your in Seattle that a 20 minute drive for you to get to.


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Hell if you do some research on the mosque(s) around crossroads in Bellevue you will find there is a lot of hate towards non believers in that area. Their is still a lot of good people there as well. But if your in Seattle that a 20 minute drive for you to get to.


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It's that type of talk that is very dangerous. I've actually gone to the Mosque on Main Street (in the Crossroads area of Bellevue) several times to just speak to local Muslims. I am in no way that religious denomination and have never felt anything but welcomed by everyone there.
 
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So sharing personal experiences is dangerous? How so? I have had lots of friends in that area used to work in that area and probably spent more time in that area in one summer than you ever have. Not trying to be a jerk but that's a reality. I lived just off of old Redmond road. We used to go down to the Starbucks by Walmart. Hang out and run on the Sammamish high school track. Go up and walk through the old growth forest that off of 168th. I have experienced it first hand. Now maybe it's because you and I dress differently. I assume you don't listen to country music and wear a camo hat. I do, not all the time but let me tell you, when I am in that area I get looks that send a chill down your spine. So while you may have had a different experience than mine I do not see how it is dangerous talk to share mine.


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So sharing personal experiences is dangerous? How so? I have had lots of friends in that area used to work in that area and probably spent more time in that area in one summer than you ever have. Not trying to be a jerk but that's a reality.

I grew up 1 mile from Crossroads and currently live two blocks from it and outside of 2 years living in Cali and 3 living in NYC, I've spent almost my whole life there.
 
We are definitely talking about the same type of community when we use the word.



And my point was not that she was supposedly hired, but that their "community" would ever allow her to go out and even apply for that type of job.



But if she has a chance to promote Islam in the strict teachings of it then it can be ok. Same as women and children are being used as suicide bomber now. Being aloud out of the house to get to their destination with out a male escort that is a family member. These incidents are real. If the MSM reported that it happened would it be more believable?


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